No Justtice, No Peace

[Yuriatin]

You all may remember my posting in Oct 2010 about my cousin who was killed at work – she was a security guard at the hotel Decameron.

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1178807&page=1

The kids ... they’re struggling. And seems more so, mentally and spiritually than financially sometimes.
This was the primary reason for our trip a few weeks ago – trying to get some things sorted out because, believe it or not, the children have STILL not been issued insurance benefits.

Why?

Because we’re waiting on the RGD.

To do what?

Issue a proper death certificate.

Why?

Because the insurance & rgd bastards say her name is spelled incorrectly in records and they have to do some research to figure out the error.

My Mom is absolutely beside herself with worry over the kids. And this, as a result, is making me worry over her! I wont even get in that. Let’s just say that we all know – stress and worry isn’t good for anyone.

A slight bit of good news is that we’ve located their father. He’s in Texas and trying to help as much as he can but, he’s here in a bind of sorts, as well. And that's a whole other story.

We really had to race them up at the insurance company the other day. Here’s what they did and I come to find out, it’s pretty common a practice in JA ...

We went to the ins company - they told us they didn’t understand why we were there.

“What are you needing for us to do? What is it you need? This case is closed – the funds have already been dispensed.”

Are you joking!

Yes – right there we had to race them up.

After “double checking” they told us they made an error. That they’re actually waiting on the correct death cert to finalize the case and dispense the money.

Here’s what - these people drag matters out – drag, drag, drag, drag it out for months! For years!
While the stall is happening, they take the money themselves (it's usually a higher up in the co. that does it because surely! no one could doubt the word of Mrs Higher up ... <span style="font-style: italic">so I'm told the runnings go</span>) and make up documents and signatures saying that you had already collected monies. When you finally DO go to get your funds, etc – they whip out paperwork saying the case is closed and that you already got it.

It then becomes a David vs Goliath story and in the end, you lose.

Oh chile please – I whipped out my IPhone so fast it wasn’t funny. I recorded the whole meeting. They back tracked quick quick. Awww hells no! Not on my watch.

I tell you, I tell you.

No justice.

No peace.

[Stormmey]

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Yes Yuri, I remember you posting about your cousin I do hope the insurance claim is settled soon. Hope the kids healing will be soon so mentally and spiritually they will be back on track.

Yuri and Yuri cousin kids

[Yuriatin]

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Thanks Stormmey.

The guy is out on bail and for the 100th time, the case has been continued, because he doesn't have / can't find a lawyer.

Good grief.

Come on.

[Stormmey]

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Yikes he got bail.....a tell u the justice shytstem iiesi.....no wonder some peeps do jungle justice hang in there.

[Yuriatin]

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Here's where things are right now as of 2 weeks ago.

Can you imagine? Can't find a lawyer? After 7 flippin' months! Gimme a break.
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 17pt">
No LawyerYet for Man Charged in Murder of Security Guard</span></span>
– June 2, 2011Posted in: Court, News

The man charged for the murder of a female security guard at a St Ann hotel <span style="color: #FF0000">was without legal representation at the start of the St Ann’s Bay Circuit Court.</span>

Twenty-two-year-old Andrew Whitmore of Salem, Runaway Bay, an ex-employee of the Royal De Cameron Hotel is charged with the murder of Jasmine Dunn, security supervisor who was killed at the hotel.

REPRESENTATION TROUBLE

When Whitmore <span style="color: #FF0000">appeared in the St Ann Circuit Court on Tuesday, May 24, he informed Justice Marjorie Cole-Smith that Nathan Geddes Morris was his lawyer. However, Mr Geddes Morris told the court that he assisted Whitmore during the preliminary investigation in the Resident Magistrate Court and would not be able to assist him at High Court level</span>.

Whitmore then told the court that Robert Brown would be his lawyer. The case was then set for Thursday, May 26 for Mr Brown to appear on Whitmore’s behalf.

However, when Whitmore returned to court, on Thursday, he still did not have a lawyer. The judge questioned Whitmore as to the whereabouts of his legal representative.
<span style="color: #FF0000">
Whitmore told the court that he was facing some difficulties beyond his control. He asked the judge for two more weeks to secure legal representation.</span>

Whitmore was charged for the murder of Jasmine Dunn, 45, security supervisor, from Falklands, after her body was found on the beach at the Royal De Cameron Club Hotel, Salem, on Monday morning, October 11, 2010. She was employed to a security company from St Ann’s Bay and assigned to the hotel.

Police claim that Dunn caught Whitmore stealing chickens from a hotel storage area and accosted him when he attacked and killed her, tied up her body and dumped it at the edge of the property, on the beach.

On Tuesday, March 1, 2011, the case was sent to the Circuit Court following a preliminary enquiry before RM Carolyn Tai, in the St Ann’s Bay RM Court.

Police had charged Whitmore on Wednesday, October 20, 2010, after he was interviewed in the presence of his attorney. Sources say Whitmore had reportedly first told police that he had gone to the assistance of the security guard when she fell and hit her head. He had said he was innocent and had nothing to do with her killing.

Police said they went to his home and found several pounds of chicken meat that was believed to be stolen from the hotel. They said the chicken meat was still in the bag in which it was packaged from the processors. They also claim that Ms Dunn’s hands were tied by the strings from the chicken bags.

Police theorize that Ms Dunn accosted Mr Whitmore after she detected that chicken had been thrown over a wall at the eastern end of the hotel premises. They believe that he hit Ms Dunn with a blunt object and, realizing she was dead, tied her up and threw her body onto the beach. Whitmore is expected to secure his legal representation for a hearing on June 17.

[Gen]

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This is why some people tek justice inna dem owna hands

sick a di owl lying teefing corrupted SOB dem

[SandiF]

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I meant to ask you about the case the other day Yuri...

So all this while the murderer is out walking about freely because he has no lawyer? I really hope justice will be met for the sake of your family. Many years ago a friend of mine, young female cousin was raped and killed by an ole dregs of society. The male relatives in the family took matters in their own hands..............

I've heard of this behaviour from insurance companies and the sad thing is they almost expect you to give up and not challenge it.

[kia027]

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i mean really -- he is out on bail but does not have a lawyer?


and as for the insurance companies why is this not spread all over the gleaner? I wonder how many people they rip off like that

[Tulip]

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Pressha buss pipe. I got worked up just reading it. and it doesn't have a thing to do with me personally.

Yuri, I'm sorry to hear your family is having to go through all this. Stand strong and chain link tight against the insurance company. Ride them like they stole it.

I don't what to say about the case because I do not understand the laws apparently.

[sistactry]

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hush yaa Yuri, boy some tings just soo freaking unfair,

those poor kids,

well....a good ting unu find dem father, hopefully after him sort out, him can help dem,

ohhh god,

[Yuriatin]

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<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">(GEN)</span></span> Trust me, I’ve thought about taking matters into my own hands but ... you know how that goes. Doesn’t always turn out pretty. But trust me, if I could – and my mom not find out about it and I could be certain no trail lead back to me – I’d consider it. But then again, I don’t know that I could sleep at night.

<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">(SANDI)</span> </span> Yes indeed my dear – this is what goes on behind closed doors – and happens to many people – in particular of course, to the lesser educated. But yuh done know seh is lang time insurance company a yahhd nah do right. My father in law had to wait 18 months for payment from an insurance company over a car accident. An accident that wasn’t even his fault!

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">(KIA)</span></span> I’m told that they rip off tons!!! of people like this! Tons.

<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">(TULIP, SC)</span></span> Thanks for you thoughts. Keeps us, the children, in your prayers when you can. I have to tell you, I used to have hope – used to. But the past few years, let me tell you – I just don’t think that Jamaica has the vision for improvement. No way. I can’t see it happening – not in my lifetime. Could be JA turns around during my grandkids generation but I honestly don’t see it happening in my lifetime.

Thanks everyone.

[MsPeaches]

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(((((((((((((yuri))))))))))))

What a desperate situation!

I know it's no comfort to you, Sis, but I have heard many similar horror stories in these parts too. Same old story: thieving insurance people and justice that is sold to the highest bidder. How they manage to continue with this atrocity year in and year out is what I don't understand.

But as we say here in Ghana, <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">One day one day..........!!!</span></span>

Good for you for showing them that you're nobody's fool!

God will punish them for their greed. Please don't give up hope, and best of luck with your efforts to help the kids: they are the ones who are suffering the worst.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A slight bit of good news is that we’ve located their father. He’s in Texas and trying to help as much as he can but, he’s here in a bind of sorts, as well. And that's a whole other story. </div></div>

im illegal?
Don't let LoneWolf find out!

I hope the insurance gets sorted out.
You should send a letter to Newspaper about the RGD delays!