Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopard

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No - no apology from me. I only said, jokingly at the time, that at $3000 a night I would probably think the maid was part of the 'room service' too. But my real point is the way the media portray the story initially - as being about this powerful man who prey on and have his way with women and who took advantage of this poor, pristine, devoutly religious West African immigrant who came to the US with only the shirt on her back in search of an honest days wage and a better life. My point is whatever the story there is dishonesty all the way around here. And in a he said/she said case where only two people know what went down all you have is credibility to work with so it is relevant in this case. </div></div>

Maybe all-sides is right/
Maybe she wanted to be helped, confided in him and he used it to gain advantage to her orifice.
Maybe she has a problem keeping her mouth closed in all situations.

1 But these are the facts he is very powerful figure!
2 If this was the way it went down in some countries....Jamaica for instance, using power to gain sexual favours is crime.

The above is merely opinions based all the arguments so far!

[neutral]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R_C</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have never been raped by the head of the IMF, have you ? </div></div>

You should ask Jamaica,they've been fukked up the arse a few times by the IMF,...I believe they,re still getting it where it hurts.

[CyberPhobic]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forcible oral sex? Unless him have a gun to har head and she no have teeth in har mouth me no see how that can happen. And you traumatized by what happen and you discussing less than 24 hours later how you can 'profit' from the incident. It no right. It no right. People lie all the time - rich, poor, black and white. </div></div>

Surely, you can't be serriuss.

Mi kno peeple whe get dem teet bax hout a dem head caus dem nuh dweet just so, suh mi nuh kno a whe yuh a talk bout.

Furdamore, everybady tink differently, Yuh cyaan sey what di next person will do inna di sayme circumstance. Some wi bite awwf di taily and some wi get dem thug bredda fi blow off dem nuts...while others will try to capitalize pan di unfortunate situation from a financial perspective.

[Derek]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who here will stand up and apologize for rushing to judgement against this man....
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">I SAID FROM DAY ONE THAT THIS IS ALL BULL - AND YOU SEE HOW QUICK DEM JUMP DONG ME TROAT?</span></span>

[evanovitch]

plot thickens


NEW YORK (AP):

At first, prosecutors said their sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn was growing more formidable by the day.

Six weeks later, they said his accuser's history of lying raised major red flags, but they weren't dropping the case, at least for now.

With the former International Monetary Fund leader freed from house arrest because the case has weakened, prosecutors aren't saying what their next move may be.

Some legal experts say prosecutors will all but have to abandon the case because of the damage to the accuser's overall credibility, even if they believe Strauss-Kahn attacked the woman, a housekeeper at a New York City hotel where he was staying. Still, at least one former high-level prosecutor thinks the case isn't doomed.

For now, Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr is saying only that prosecutors will keep investigating &quot;until we have uncovered all relevant facts.

&quot;Our commitment to the truth and the facts will govern how we proceed,&quot; he said in a statement Friday.

Prosecutors have a number of options, including going ahead with the current charges or reducing them.

plea deal

They could try to negotiate a plea deal, though it's unclear whether Strauss-Kahn would entertain one. He has asserted his innocence, and the doubts raised about the woman's trustworthiness would likely improve his chances at a trial. While prosecutors haven't questioned her account of the alleged attack itself, they say she's been untruthful about a number of other things, including what she did right afterward. That could make potential jurors reluctant to take her word over Strauss-Kahn's.

Or prosecutors could ask a judge to dismiss the case, as Strauss-Kahn's lawyers have called on them to do.

&quot;As a former sex crimes prosecutor myself, I wouldn't want to try this case,&quot; said Allison Leotta, until recently an assistant U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., where the federal lawyers act as local prosecutors.

&quot;People are going to have a very hard time believing her,&quot; said Leotta, also the author of Law of Attraction, a recently published novel.

The hotel maid told authorities that Strauss-Kahn forced her to perform oral sex and tried to pull down her pantyhose after she arrived to clean his suite on May 14. Her lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, said Friday that Strauss-Kahn bruised the woman's genitals, ripped her hose and damaged a ligament in one of her shoulders in a violent attack.

His semen was found on her uniform, people familiar with the investigation have said.

Strauss-Kahn's lawyers say anything that happened between the two wasn't forced.

The Associated Press generally doesn't name accusers of sex crimes unless they agree to be identified.

Authorities initially called the 32-year-old woman credible. But prosecutors now say she lied to them about her background - including by fabricating an account of having been gang-raped in her native Guinea - and didn't tell a grand jury she had continued on cleaning rooms for a time before alerting her supervisor about the attack. She also has fudged on tax forms to keep subsidized housing, they said.

A law enforcement official has said prosecutors also found a tape of the woman telling an incarcerated man that Strauss-Kahn had money, and authorities learned that other people had put tens of thousands of dollars in bank accounts in her name, deposits she said she knew little about but authorities suspect may be tied to drug dealing. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters not made public in court.

Thompson said the woman had &quot;made some mistakes&quot; but wasn't involved with drugs.

problematic backgrounds

Prosecutors often pursue cases in which victims have problematic backgrounds. But the Strauss-Kahn accuser's history of lying about circumstances of rape, possible allusion to a financial motive for pursuing the case and the changing account of what happened just after the alleged incident could be major hurdles, several legal experts said.

Not so to former Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox. He notes that the maid was in Strauss-Kahn's room only briefly - a timeline that, to him, casts doubt on a consensual encounter - and that DNA evidence shows something sexual happened.

&quot;The prosecution still has the makings of a very strong case there,&quot; said Cox, also a former prosecutor in Detroit. He's now in private practice.

Whatever prosecutors decide to do as the case goes forward, they have found themselves under pressure to explain how it got to this point.

The stakes are high for Vance. The DA's biggest case in his 18 months in office prompted Strauss-Kahn to resign his IMF post and scrambled politics in his native France, where he had been considered a presidential contender in next year's election. Vance personally made the call to bring formal charges against Strauss-Kahn after police arrested him, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss prosecutors' internal decision making.

A new poll indicates that the French are divided over whether Strauss-Kahn should re-enter politics after the weakening of the case against him.

Forty-nine per cent of those surveyed in the Harris Interactive poll for French newspaper Le Parisien responded 'yes' to the question &quot;Without prejudging his innocence or guilt, do you want DSK to come back to the French political scene one day?&quot; Forty-five per cent said 'no' and six per cent didn't answer the question.

The DA's office insists prosecutors acted properly by pursuing what they saw as a credible allegation, supported by DNA evidence and witnesses to the woman's distraught demeanor. Prosecutors emphasize that they kept investigating and made their new concerns known relatively early in the case.

&quot;At every step of the way, the district attorney's office made the right decisions,&quot; spokeswoman Erin Duggan said.

Some legal experts agree. Once the woman made what seemed like a believable report, &quot;Are you going to say, 'He's a very important man, - we're not going to take your word for it?'&quot; asked Fordham Law School professor James A. Cohen.

But others feel that prosecutors let themselves be driven by wanting to take an aggressive posture in a prominent case - so aggressive that, when arguing against bail for Strauss-Kahn early in the case, they invoked Roman Polanski, the movie director who fled the US while facing sentencing in a child sex case.

&quot;That was Cy Vance's office making a policy decision to strike the highest profile pose imaginable, resting on a very shaky edifice,&quot; said Ron Kuby, a New York defense lawyer.

After his house arrest was lifted, Strauss-Kahn enjoyed his first day of freedom on Saturday by ducking out of his rented town house with his wife and returning a few hours later. He remained inside Sunday morning.

Strauss-Kahn is due back in court July 18.

[neutral]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who here will stand up and apologize for rushing to judgement against this man....
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">I SAID FROM DAY ONE THAT THIS IS ALL BULL - AND YOU SEE HOW QUICK DEM JUMP DONG ME TROAT?</span></span> </div></div>


Seet deh !.......same thing I said too,I had my suspicions,political correctness has overtaken commonsense,if a woman accuses a man of rape you are not allowed to say she is a lying bwitch

[sagal]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Forcible oral sex? Unless him have a gun to har head and she no have teeth in har mouth me no see how that can happen. And you traumatized by what happen and you <span style="font-weight: bold">discussing less than 24 hours later </span>how you can 'profit' from the incident. It no right. It no right. People lie all the time - rich, poor, black and white. </div></div>

Sounds fishy to me!!!

[mountaingal]

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i guess the evidence of forcible rape will eventually make its way to the front of the agenda, while the system tries to figure out whether her prior history and credibility overrides physical evidence.

[evanovitch]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i guess the evidence of forcible rape will eventually make its way to the front of the agenda, while the system tries to figure out whether her prior history and credibility overrides physical evidence. </div></div>

like how di modda who on trial fi murdering har likkle girl trow har fada before di bus...even wen dem play recordings of her lauding her parents wen dem was visiting her in jail , she still okayed her defense team doing dat to har daddy...

i put nutten pass people dese days..money r the promise of money r the fight to save self even after doing wrong is someting to see in how it influences wat people will do

now , since him get bail, di journalist who seh him did assault her years ago but she wasnt gwine to sue, has now filed suit....

strike wile di iron is hot ...him mite beat di case so try ur bit now

[jah_yout]

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NY post blasted a headline saying the maid was a &quot;hooker&quot; (shake-mi-head)
this newspaper never ceases to amaze in reaching new lows

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Maid cleaning up as 'hooker'</span>

Dominique Strauss-Kahn's accuser wasn't just a girl working at a hotel -- she was a working girl.

The Sofitel housekeeper who claims the former IMF boss sexually assaulted her in his room was doing double duty as a prostitute, collecting cash on the side from male guests, The Post has learned.</div></div>


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manha...I#ixzz1R9hdMzY8

[SmoothOperator]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

Is it not funny how the maid has gone from a highly devout religious woman who just wanted to do her job to a $2 crack ho in only a week.

[Derek]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it not funny how the maid has gone from a highly devout religious woman who just wanted to do her job to a $2 crack ho in only a week. </div></div>


Indeed!


Hey, the guy lost his IMF job. Mission accomplished. So why is he still in the news anyway?

[Yuriatin]

DSK CASE DROPPED

So says the NY Post and several other media outlets. Still, some others report it will be dropped in a couple weeks, as described below ...

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/prosecutors_will_drop_dsk_char.html

[Yuriatin]

Re: DSK CASE DROPPED

Another ...

http://www.newser.com/story/122623/charges-against-dominique-strauss-kahn-to-be-dropped-source.html

[neutral]

Re: Dominique Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


Hey, the guy lost his IMF job.
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Yeah,but he can look on the bright side.................he had a free blow job out of it.