'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

**RichD** · 08-19-2011, 10:08 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

these planners are dimwitted..its amazing they have been so sucessful..why would they bother inform the media ahead of time? ..why not jus do it an let them report it as it happened

**Derek** · 08-19-2011, 06:10 PM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these planners are dimwitted..its amazing they have been so sucessful..why would they bother inform the media ahead of time? ..why not jus do it an let them report it as it happened </div></div>

They are successful because nobody really cares. The 'honest mistake' can ONLY be briefing a reporter about twenty minutes too early.

And I'll say it again: do you know how many weeks, if not months it takes to prime a building for demolition? WTC7 came down on the same day after Larry Silverstein said he told them to 'pull it'. It's only logical that the explosives were already set up.

AND...
Silverstein and friends made BILLIONS after insuring the building against terrorist attack just WEEKS before 911.

<span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">We are all being lied to and taken for a ride.</span></span>

**RichD** · 08-19-2011, 09:57 PM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

but why brief the reporter at all? wouldn't they report the collapse anyway?..why involve more people in your plan that you have to ?

which company insured the buildings?

**Derek** · 08-20-2011, 03:00 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but why brief the reporter at all? wouldn't they report the collapse anyway?..why involve more people in your plan that you have to ?

which company insured the buildings? </div></div>

IT WAS ALL PLANNED AND SCRIPTED BOSS, <span style="font-weight: bold">CAN'T YOU SEE IT</span>?
Involve more people? You need news reporters to report the BS to an unsuspecting public, no?
Yes they would have reported the collapse anyway, because WTC7 was already, MUST have been, 'wired up'.

SOMEONE MADE THE MISTAKE OF SENDING THE SCRIPT TOO EARLY.
It reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald's arrest and charge being announced in New Zealand's newspapers - before it happened, if you see what I mean.

Google 'Larry Silverstein 911 insurance' for all you need to know about that.

**jah_yout** · 08-20-2011, 10:21 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

umm...something tells me Rich D not buying this

**MsPeaches** · 08-20-2011, 11:31 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

iNTERESTING VIDEO......

**Derek** · 08-21-2011, 03:40 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">umm...something tells me Rich D not buying this </div></div>

He doesn't want to buy it, because his belief system is set in a way that 'these people' wouldn't be so lie.

EVEN WHEN IT IS CLEAR IN FRONT OF HIM.

**Derek** · 08-21-2011, 03:47 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MsPeaches</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

iNTERESTING VIDEO......

</div></div>

With interesting comments (in case RichD thinks it's just me on this tip).

That seven billion won't be worth much to him in hell!
nursefella62 1 month ago

911 is a good example that our government can do whatever the hell it wants to do and call it whatever it wants to call it and get away with it!! and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it...
ReinaValera1865 1 month ago

ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS WHO BELIEVE IT WAS "ARAB TERRORISTS"??!!! Wake up, people!! I cant believe youi are so stupid and still believe government lies and MEDIA LIES !!
Silverstein is GUILTY of massmurder and fraud!
Elberiver11 3 months ago

It turns out that both larry and his daughter did not show up for work either on 911 & she worked @ WTC 7.
drumsmetalheavy11 8 months ago 2

What good is it to gain the whole world.., and loose your own soul ??... He traded eternal life for a worm fuzzy feeling of thinking I'm'a rich !!... Even if he got to take it with him... Worthless fiat currency still burns in the flames of fire... It is appointed once for man to die... Then the judgment... Silly rabbit (Tricks are for kids)...
eye4quality 10 months ago

this [censored] should not be allowed to rebuild on land where thousands died!!!!
braposo23 11 months ago 8

This world is controlled by very evil "people"
gre68 11 months ago 15

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">@gre68 You got that right. They made records of me dead. Honey Siegal
HoneySiegalSurvivor 8 months ago</span></span>

**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-21-2011, 05:47 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

Why would informing "the media" be a part of such a complicated plot?

The reason I don't believe that the buildings were brought down with explosives is that it would have been a HUGE job that would involve tons of equipment and explosives that would have had to been brought up into the buildings. Hundreds of people would be involved. It would have taken a long time... many many trips up long elevator rides with pallets of wires and explosives. There would have been and there would still be thousands of people who were directly knowledgable about what really happened. And there just aren't that many sociopaths that would be willing to work on such a project.

Can you imagine someone coming up with this 911 "idea," and trying to present it to power as a good plan?

**Derek** · 08-21-2011, 07:24 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would informing "the media" be a part of such a complicated plot? </div></div>
How can they NOT use the media to convince YOU, that, for examples, Bin Laden did it, or Saddam has WMDs?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The reason I don't believe that the buildings were brought down with explosives is that it would have been a HUGE job that would involve tons of equipment and explosives that would have had to been brought up into the buildings. Hundreds of people would be involved. It would have taken a long time... many many trips up long elevator rides with pallets of wires and explosives. </div></div>
Agreed. It takes a lot of preparation. Weeks at least.

I have watched dozens of controlled demolitions, where the building collapses into its own footprint. They all look more-or-less the same. For comparison, I should be watching film of skyscrapers collapsing to the ground from fire damage, rather than controlled demolitions. But there has never been a single skyscraper in history that has collapsed completely due to fire damage - even though fires have burned for much longer over many more floors than what we saw with WTC7.

Can you be bothered to listen to these experts?

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And Larry Silverstein said on TV that he ordered 'them' to 'pull it'. What did he mean, forty? That HUGE job THAT YOU QUITE RIGHLY MENTIONED could not have been achieved in a few hours.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There would have been and there would still be thousands of people who were directly knowledgable about what really happened. </div></div>
Agreed. But what they have to say doesn't reach mainstream media. You read what they have to say - and there is plenty of it - elsewhere.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And there just aren't that many sociopaths that would be willing to work on such a project.</div></div>
It's called a need-to-know basis. The demo boss doesn't need to know why his company has been tasked to prime a building (that will be brought down years, months or weeks later).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you imagine someone coming up with this 911 "idea," and trying to present it to power as a good plan? </div></div>
So it's only a good idea/good plan if Bin Laden came up with it?
Good idea/plan or not, people would rather believe what they are told by the very same media you mentioned earlier.

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**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-21-2011, 04:48 PM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would informing "the media" be a part of such a complicated plot? </div></div>
How can they NOT use the media to convince YOU, that, for examples, Bin Laden did it, or Saddam has WMDs?</div></div>
The media doesn't need to be told anything. They are going to be there. They are there. They are investigating, filming, broadcasting, from the moment the first plane hits. Why would a insider ever contact an outsider?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The reason I don't believe that the buildings were brought down with explosives is that it would have been a HUGE job that would involve tons of equipment and explosives that would have had to been brought up into the buildings. Hundreds of people would be involved. It would have taken a long time... many many trips up long elevator rides with pallets of wires and explosives. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It takes a lot of preparation. Weeks at least.</div></div>
All three buildings. All concealed. No nightwatchman or cleaning people saying, "Hey! What's going on here?"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> have watched dozens of controlled demolitions, where the building collapses into its own footprint. They all look more-or-less the same. For comparison, I should be watching film of skyscrapers collapsing to the ground from fire damage, rather than controlled demolitions. But there has never been a single skyscraper in history that has collapsed completely due to fire damage - even though fires have burned for much longer over many more floors than what we saw with WTC7. </div></div>
Basically what happened was that pillars supporting the tremendous weight of the floors above weakened, and leaned inwards until they couldnt support the floor above. Once those pillars couldn't hold any longer the floor above fell... and once it fell, all the floors above fell. Since there was no angular momentum, no pressure from the outside, every floor fell straight down.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> you be bothered to listen to these experts?

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No one is saying that one column failed and the whole building came down. Columns were knocked out by the planes in the two main buildings, then the intense heat weakened many supporting columns that were supporting the massive weight of the floors above. The columns leaned in, tilted slightly, and the weight caused a floor above to fall... once that happened there was no turning back.

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Danny Jowenko doesn't even know building 7 came down on 911. He's just one more opinion imho. Building 7 burned for hours and hours. It seems natural to me that if weight bearing columns fail, and the floor above crashes down, that the entire weight of the building must drop. It isn't going to just drop one floor because of the inertia of all the weight above.

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To my old eyes this Ed Asner film was pure propaganda. It made no sense. The fallacy of appealing to experts taken to an extreme.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Larry Silverstein said on TV that he ordered 'them' to 'pull it'. What did he mean, forty? That HUGE job THAT YOU QUITE RIGHLY MENTIONED could not have been achieved in a few hours.
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This video surely doen't mean that this man was accidentally confessing to destroying building 7.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There would have been and there would still be thousands of people who were directly knowledgable about what really happened. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. But what they have to say doesn't reach mainstream media. You read what they have to say - and there is plenty of it - elsewhere.</div></div>
I have read a lot of the conspiracy stuff, and I have watched these videos. They say the same thing over and over. A half dozen buzzwords are repeated. If they want to get traction they must show a reason, and then explain how it was done.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And there just aren't that many sociopaths that would be willing to work on such a project.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> called a need-to-know basis. The demo boss doesn't need to know why his company has been tasked to prime a building (that will be brought down years, months or weeks later).</div></div>
But Derek dont you think that if you were hired to work bringing in explosives into the WTC for weeks at night hiding from cleanup crews and night watchmen, and then months later the building comes down, that you might be tempted to tell your story to the press?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you imagine someone coming up with this 911 "idea," and trying to present it to power as a good plan? </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> it's only a good idea/good plan if Bin Laden came up with it? Good idea/plan or not, people would rather believe what they are told by the very same media you mentioned earlier.</div></div>
I don't feel like you have responded to my question here... Why would someone come up with this plan? Who would they present the plan to? How could anyone in power actually be convinced that creating all this destruction is a good idea?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5367 </div></div>
This Jew hating video has been taken down.

Here is a little video that explains how the buildings were brought down by the planes the debris and the fires.

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**Derek** · 08-21-2011, 11:37 PM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

Here are some videos which claim there were explosions in the buildings:

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I suppose they're either all stupid or mistaken, eh?

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**Derek** · 08-21-2011, 11:45 PM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">called a need-to-know basis. The demo boss doesn't need to know why his company has been tasked to prime a building (that will be brought down years, months or weeks later).</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But Derek dont you think that if you were hired to work bringing in explosives into the WTC for weeks at night hiding from cleanup crews and night watchmen, and then months later the building comes down, that you might be tempted to tell your story to the press? </div></div>

At night? Hiding from clean-up crews? You missed my point: the buildings were primed well before 911.

Your last point about telling the press. There are hundreds if not thousands of people speaking out. But what they have to say doesn't reach mainstream. Google 911 Truth. A lot of <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Americans</span></span> are unhappy with the official story.

Another point about speaking out."The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Most people would rather keep their month shut and collect their salary. That includes me.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The media doesn't need to be told anything. They are going to be there. They are there. They are investigating, filming, broadcasting, from the moment the first plane hits. Why would a insider ever contact an outsider? </div></div>
Eh?
BBC are not outsiders. They 'report' no?

You mentioned something about you've been to a lot of conspiracy sites. Try truth sites.

**f0rTyLeGz** · 08-22-2011, 12:14 AM

Re: 'How I reported on WTC 7 collapse before it did.'

I know you will never think this was anything else but a big conspiracy. But I would like to know who could have ever thought this was a good idea? What is the upside? How in the world would anyone think that blowing up these buildings would be a good idea.

Even if those buildings were wired long ago... I can assure you that there were night watchmen and clean up crews since the buildings came into existence.

In the first tape above the reporter says that there has been an explosion on capital hill. There wasnt.

Sure there are people speaking out... but there is no one saying that they "primed" the building. There were phone calls from people above the floor where the plane plowed in who were saying that the floor was buckling. There are photos of the skin of the buildings drawing inwards before the collapse.

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