Only a Matter of Time; Gaddafi's sons Arrested..

[Gen]

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Suh why yuh nuh tell those "nuff people" ? Yuh do know dem nuh frequent this website right ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dehyah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nuhbaddy pan this board nuh believe that suh why yuh keep telling people pan yah dat a only fox dem watch ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dehyah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so a de joke dem mek yuh love fox suh till?
But nuff ppl bleev seh fox a hole up de highest standard in journalism. </div></div> </div></div>

is what mek yuh tink seh is board ppl mi talkin' bout
Look pan de country yuh live in an listen tuh de ppl. </div></div>

[Emperah]

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so everyting weh gwaan pan ya is jus about de ppl who congregate pan dis board now?

[Gen]

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Course not. But might as well yuh try get yuh message to &quot;nuff a dese people&quot;.

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and those media sources don't have their own agendas too?


as they say there is your story, my story and then there is the truth.... </div></div>

I doubt if this on wikipedia, but The House of Rothschild bought Reuters the 1800s and within the last 20 years, Reuters bought the Associated Press.
The Rothschilds also control all three U.S. networks, according to research by Eustice Mullins in his book, 'Who Owns the TV Networks'.&quot;

Now you know whose agenda is being forwarded.

[MsPeaches]

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PROPAGANDA WAR:LIBYA AND LIES OF THE CORPORATE MEDIA


Global Research, August 20, 2011
Voltaire Network

Five months into the bombing campaign, it is no longer possible to believe the initial official version of the events and the massacres attributed to the &quot;Gaddafi regime&quot;. Moreover, it is now essential to take into account Libya’s legal and diplomatic rebuttal, highlighting the crimes against peace committed by television propaganda, the war crimes perpetrated by NATO military forces, and the crimes against humanity sponsored by political leaders of the Atlantic Alliance.

Just under half of Europeans still support the war against Libya. Their position is based on erroneous information. They still believe, in fact, that in February the &quot;Gaddafi regime&quot; crushed the protests in Benghazi with brutal force and bombed civilian districts in Tripoli, while the Colonel himself was warning of &quot;rivers of blood&quot; if his compatriots continued to challenge his authority.

During my two months’ investigation on the ground, I was able to verify that these accusations were pure propaganda intoxication, designed by the NATO powers to create the conditions for war, and relayed around the world by their television media, in particular Al-Jazeera, CNN, BBC and France24.

However, the reader who doesn’t know where he stands on this issue and who - despite the brainwashing of September 11 and Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction - is reluctant to accept that the United States, France, the UK and Qatar were actually capable of fabricating such lies, will be able to forge an opinion over time. NATO, the largest military coalition in history, has failed after five months of bombardments to overthrow the one it designated as a &quot;tyrant.&quot; Every Friday, a large demonstration in support of the regime is organized in a different city and all experts are unanimous in considering that Colonel Gaddafi enjoys at least 90% of popular support in Tripolitania and 70% across the entire country, including the &quot;rebel&quot; areas. These are people who every single day put up with the blockade, aerial bombardments and ground fighting. Never would they be defending with their flesh and blood someone who committed against them the crimes of which he has been accused by the &quot;international community.&quot; The difference between those in the West who believe that Gaddafi is a tyrant who fired on his own people, and those in Libya who believe that he is a hero of the anti-imperialist struggle, is that the former live in an illusion created by TV propaganda, whereas the others are exposed to the concrete reality on the ground.

That said, there is a second illusion to which the West has succumbed - and in the &quot;Western&quot; camp I now include not only Israel, where it has always claimed to belong, but also the monarchies of the Gulf Cooperation Council and Turkey which, though of Eastern culture, have chosen to embrace it -, the illusion to think that it is still possible to devastate a country and kill its people without legal consequences. It is true that, until now, international justice has been the justice of the victors or the powerful. One may recall the Nazi official who heckled the judges at Nuremberg telling them that if the Reich had won the war, the judges would have been the Nazis while those held accountable for the war crimes would have been the Allies.

More recently, we saw how NATO used the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia to try to justify post facto that the war in Kosovo was &quot;the first humanitarian war in History,&quot; according to the expression employed by Tony Blair. Or again, how the Special Tribunal for Lebanon was used in an attempt to overthrow the Syrian government, then to decapitate the Lebanese Hezbollah, and probably soon to accuse the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Not to mention, the International Criminal Court, the secular arm of the European colonial powers in Africa.

However, the development of instruments and organs of international justice throughout the twentieth century has gradually established an international order with which the superpowers themselves will have to comply or which they will have to sabotage in order to escape their responsibilities. In the case of Libya, the violations of international law are countless. The main ones, presented below, were established by the Provisional Technical Committee, a Libyan ministerial coordination organ, and expounded at various press conferences by the legal adviser to the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, French attorney Marcel Ceccaldi [1].

TV channels which, under the leadership of their respective Governments, have manufactured false information to lead to war, are guilty of &quot;crimes against peace&quot;, as defined by the relevant UN General Assembly resolutions in the aftermath of World War II [2]. The journalist-propagandists should be considered even more culpable than the military who perpetrated war crimes or crimes against humanity, to the extent that none of these crimes would have been possible without the one that preceded them: the &quot;crime against peace.&quot;

The political leaders of the Atlantic Alliance, who diverted the object and purpose of Resolution 1973 to engage in a war of aggression against a sovereign state, are personally responsible before international justice. Indeed, according to the jurisprudence established by the Tokyo Court following the Second World War, crimes cannot be ascribed to either States or organizations, but to individuals. Plundering the assets of a state, establishing a naval blockade and bombing infrastructure to cause people to suffer, attacking an army inside its barracks and ordering the assassination of enemy leaders or, failing this, terrorizing them by murdering their families, all amount to war crimes. Their systematic perpetration, as is the case today, constitutes a crime against humanity. This crime is imprescriptible, which means that Messrs. Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron and Al-Thani will be pursued by the law for the rest of their lives.

NATO, as an organization, is legally responsible for the material and human damage of this war. The law leaves no room for doubt that the organization must pay, even though it will surely try to invoke a privilege of jurisdiction to dodge its responsibilities. It will be up to the Alliance to decide how the bill for the conflict should be split among Member States, even though some of them may be on the verge of bankruptcy. This will be followed by disastrous economic consequences for their peoples, guilty of having endorsed such crimes. In a democracy, no one can claim to be innocent of the crimes committed in its name.

International justice will have to address more specifically the case of the Sarkozy &quot;administration&quot; - I use this Anglicism here to underscore the fact that the French president has been piloting his Government’s policy directly, without going through his prime minister. Indeed, France has played a central role in preparing for this war since October 2010 by organizing a failed military coup and then, as early as November 2010, by planning with the United Kingdom the bombing of Libya and the landing of ground troops on its soil, which was then believed to be feasible, and finally by actively conspiring in the lethal unrest in Benghazi which led to the war.

In addition, France, more than any other power, has deployed Special Forces on the ground - without uniforms, no doubt - and violated the arms embargo by supplying the insurgents, either directly or through Qatari airplanes. Not to mention that France has violated the UN freeze of Libyan assets, funnelling part of the fabulous cash from the Libyan Sovereign Fund to the CNT puppets, to the detriment of the Libyan people who wanted to guarantee the well-being of their children in the face of oil depletion.

These gentlemen from NATO, who hoped to escape international justice by crushing their victim, Libya, in a few short days so that it would not survive to pursue them, will be disenchanted. Libya is still there. She is filing complaints with the International Criminal Court, the Belgian courts (whose jurisdiction NATO falls under), the European Court of Justice, and the national courts of aggressor states. She is undertaking steps before the Council of Human Rights in Geneva, the Security Council and General Assembly of the United Nations. It will be not be possible for the big powers to extinguish these fires all at once. Worse, the arguments they will use to evade a court will ricochet against them in another court. In a few weeks or months, if they have not succeeded in destroying Tripoli, they will have no other way out to avoid humiliating convictions than to negotiate the withdrawal of the complaints at a very high price.

Notes

[1] Putting an end to the confusion that prevailed at the beginning of the war when various departments hired lawyers for different disorderly proceedings, Libya has appointed Marcel Ceccaldi in July to oversee all proceedings.

[2] “Journalists who engage in war propaganda must be held accountable”, by Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Network, 16 August 2011


Thierry Meyssan is a frequent contributor to Global Research.

[MsPeaches]

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NATO SLAUGHTER IN TRIPOLI: &quot;Operation Mermaid Dawn&quot; Signals Assault by Rebels' Al Qaeda Death Squads

by Thierry Meyssan

Global Research, August 21, 2011
Voltaire Network

Tripoli, Libya, Aug. 22, 2011, 1 AM CET– On Saturday evening, at 8pm, when the hour of Iftar marked the breaking of the Ramadan fast, the NATO command launched its “Operation Mermaid Dawn” against Libya.

The Sirens were the loudspeakers of the mosques, which were used to launch Al Qaeda’s call to revolt against the Qaddafi government. Immediately the sleeper cells of the Benghazi rebels went into action. These were small groups with great mobility, which carried out multiple attacks. The overnight fighting caused 350 deaths and 3,000 wounded.

The situation calmed somewhat on Sunday during the course of the day.

Then, a NATO warship sailed up and anchored just off the shore at Tripoli, delivering heavy weapons and debarking Al Qaeda jihadi forces, which were led by NATO officers.

Fighting stared again during the night. There were intense firefights. NATO drones and aircraft kept bombing in all directions. NATO helicopters strafed civilians in the streets with machine guns to open the way for the jihadis.

In the evening, a motorcade of official cars carrying top government figures came under attack. The convoy fled to the Hotel Rixos, where the foreign press is based. NATO did not dare to bomb the hotel because they wanted to avoid killing the journalists. Nevertheless the hotel, which is where I am staying, is now under heavy fire.

At 11:30pm, the Health Minister had to announce that the hospitals were full to overflowing. On Sunday evening, there had been 1300 additional dead and 5,000 wounded.

NATO had been charged by the UN Security Council with protecting civilians in Libya. In reality, France and Great Britain have just re-started their colonial massacres.

At 1am, Khamis Qaddafi came to the Rixos Hotel personally to deliver weapons for the defense of the hotel. He then left. There is now heavy fighting all around the hotel.

[jah_yout]

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saif al-islam was spotted in tripoli moments ago

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">saif al-islam was spotted in tripoli moments ago </div></div>

that can't be dem seh dem have him

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Emperah_dehyah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">saif al-islam was spotted in tripoli moments ago </div></div>

that can't be dem seh dem have him </div></div>

F-----ng corporate/ gov't propaganda machine...

on a non-stop crusade to wash the people mind

[Emperah]

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a tell yuh bredren an de ppl tan ya an tink seh dem a get real news.

fake messages led to libyan war

[MsPeaches]

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Indeed!

&quot;War propaganda has entered a new phase, involving the coordinated action of satellite TV stations. CNN, France24, the BBC and Al Jazeera have become instruments of disinformation used to demonize governments and justify armed aggressions. These practices are illegal under international law and the impunity of the perpetrators must be stopped.&quot;
Media in League with NATO

Lizzie Phelan from Tripol

This was from a correspondent in Tripoli late this morning:

&quot;I have now from RELIABLE sources that the Libyan army is still in control of Tripoli. Al Jazeera footage of Green Sq was FAKE. Gaddafi went to Green Sq with one of his sons. Things are much calmer now. More info soon.

I have heard reports that people have come out into Green Square and other parts of the city waving the green flag and that the Libyan army is in control. Now, what we’ve heard is that the strategy of the Libyan government and army was to permit the rebels into the city because previously they have been operating in sleeper cells and threfore it was very difficult to know who they were and where they were hiding, so this strategy was part of bringing them out of the woodwork so that they could be dealt with quite swiftly. We have also heard that the large tribes (she names them) have come to Tripoli to join the battle. We have also heard that Gaddafi was in Green Square with the people.&quot;

Another source:

“Called to Tripoli in the heart of events moments ago.
Green Square is controlled by the Libyan army. Media reports to the contrary are fake.
There were fierce clashes in Gargalesh ( the high society area of Tripoli ) where the residents proved traitors and raised the flag of shame. Libyan army and volunteers are cleaning the area. And in Tanjoura area there were clashes, but army has cntrol of the perimeter of the city. Also Saif al Islam Al Gaddafi was in the port area earlier today in order to coordinate the defence from the rats that were arriving with NATO boats.”

Quatari soldiers are among the Nato insurgent casualties. Libyan army and volunteers are everywhere. Libyan women are fighting bravely to protect the city. Everything is under control.&quot;

Meanwhile........

BOMBING OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS

Update from this morning:

August 22 2011

[Emperah]

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tanx fe di link dis is serious

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[Emperah]

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[MsPeaches]

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A lot of the journalists in the rixos Hotel are actually CIA and MI6 employees.

'CIA, MI6 'Journos' in Rixos Hotel'

[Emperah]

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that's no surprise a suh dem stay.