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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
doan know cah jamaica gitt a latt aff welfare fram farreen so da iigh unemployment rate doan affect yaawdees as much -
Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">could it,would it happen???????? </div></div>
dem better have nuff nuff dollasComment
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
interesting piece following the occupy Toronto whatumaycallit
observing the Toronto version, begs the question who would be the people at a "Occupy Jamaica" protest..
this group maybe...??
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<span style="font-size: 14pt">Occupy protests reek of hypocrisy</span>
You know those dirty hippies who gathered in a New York City park last week, and were finally evicted for hygiene reasons? They came to Canada on the weekend.
"Dirty hippies" is not an insult. It's an epidemiological assessment of their week-long war against hygiene at a cramped, garbage-strewn, semen-stained camp. The crowning moment was when one hippie defecated on a police car as some sort of political statement.
Not all the Occupy Toronto protesters are dirty hippies. Some of them are professional protesters folks who go out whenever there's a chance to be counter-cultural. These are the black bloc types who came to agitate in Toronto during the G-20.
Others are union bosses, usually from government unions. That's who created this movement in the U.S. and who promotes it in Canada now.
For them, Occupy Wall Street is a scheme to shift the blame for the U.S. recession away from the White House, and onto someone else other than the Democratic Party.
Banks are still failing in the U.S., unemployment is at 9%, annual deficits there are a trillion and a half dollars, and the U.S. lost its triple-A credit rating. All on President Hope and Change's watch.
So they've come up with new slogans, like the one that claims these protesters represent 99% of Americans, and Wall Street represents the richest 1%. It's class warfare. If it were about helping people, they'd focus on the bottom 10% of Americans. It's the politics of jealousy.
But that sour message isn't clicking in Canada. We haven't had a bank fail.
So not one has been bailed out. Our unemployment rate is 7%. Which is 2% lower than in the U.S. Our national deficit is down to $33 billion. Our credit rating is golden.
Which is why so few people bothered to show up for the Occupy protests across Canada.
By Monday morning, only 20 protesters were left downtown in Toronto's financial district. How did they even know that was a protest? There are longer line-ups at Toronto hot dog carts.
But the CBC, the state broadcaster, went into Olympics-style mega-coverage over the weekend, sending out dozens of reporters and producers to cover the protests as if it were an election. They became a PR agency. They helped organize and promote the events.
One excitable CBC host actually claimed that the protests had spread to "more than 1,000 cities" around the world with "hundreds or thousands" of protesters in each. That's just false; there were protests in a few dozen cities, but in most the number was under 100.
The CBC was engaging in a telethon for the union protests. Not just promoting them, but skillfully editing them, too.
They carefully kept off camera any embarrassing yahoos.
That's the opposite approach the CBC takes with a genuine protest, like the annual the March for Life rally.
Every year well over 10,000 people march on Parliament Hill against abortion. They don't threaten revolution or anarchy. They don't crap on police cars.
But because they are pro-life, the CBC downplays them.
They grudgingly report their rally.
And they do their best to hunt for the nuttiest person in the crowd, and pretend that they speak for the whole mass.
I've got an idea. Let's occupy a mega-corporation that demands a yearly $1.1 billion bailout from taxpayers, violates transparency laws and doesn't register its secretive lobbying.
Yeah: Let's occupy the CBC.
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i went for a walk over to our st. james park *protest*. there's not much going on, people sitting around smoking dope. in fact ezra levant interviewed one of the social changers and asked him if there were any supplies he was running out of and he looked straight into the camera and said "weed".Comment
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i went for a walk over to our st. james park *protest*. there's not much going on, people sitting around smoking dope. in fact ezra levant interviewed one of the social changers and asked him if there were any supplies he was running out of and he looked straight into the camera and said "weed".
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nuff said...Comment
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
occupy Calgary *protesters* are asking for donations of <span style="font-weight: bold">condoms</span> and toiletries.
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">could it,would it happen???????? </div></div>
in jamaica- no, not at the present time...the dynamics are different;
j'cans still for the most part think salvation lies in party politicsComment
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You know those dirty hippies who gathered in a New York City park last week</div></div>
i bet the idiot who wrote this was never actually at wall street...
they simply dismiss a mass protest movement that has now gone global by calling them "hippies"...
what a jokeComment
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Re: Occupy Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seems we slow cause its already happening in Jamaica and actually covered here
Occupy Jamaica Coverage
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Occupy Jamaica suppose to happen today
Source: Jamaica Resist
Monday, October 17, 2011
Occupy Wall Street coming to Jamaica
The Marcus Garvey People’s Political Party (MGPPP) is calling for a demonstration in front of the Bank of Jamaica on Thursday at 1 PM to express sentiments similar to those being made in America by the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement or the 99% Movement and which has now spread to many other countries especially in Europe.
The Jamaican context for similar expressions
Though Bruce Golding was forced to resign because of his involvement with confessed drug dealer and arms trafficker, Christopher Dudus Coke, he still had a hand in selecting his successor Andrew Holness. Golding promptly took Holness to Washington to meet with the directors of the international financial institutions that are currently running Jamaica’s financial affairs. The visit was felt to be necessary to underline Holness’ stated intention to continue with the policies of his predecessor and ultimately the Jamaica IMF agreement.
What is this continuation of policy to which Holness has committed himself? Very simply, the IMF agreement with Jamaica is designed to ensure that creditors, local and foreign, who are owed more than a trillion Jamaican dollars are paid their pound of flesh as per agreement. And, as is the refrain in the United States, 99% of Jamaicans (who had no part in contracting this debt) will unfairly have to bear the burden of paying back the debt, especially hard on the 1.2 million who are living below the poverty line, including the 14% (according to official statistics) who are unemployed.
The OWS movement, which is being replicated all over the world, is shining a bright spotlight on a reality that exists globally -- not just in New York and the rest of the United States -- that it is the poor, the working class, who are being forced to bear the burden of this global economic crisis. The US financial aristocracy for example, [the 1%] were bailed out by the US government with billions of dollars of public money and there is nothing positive to show for such largesse. Unemployment is at its highest since the 1930s depression and there is no will to tax the rich as the OWS and the majority of Americans are demanding according to recent polls.
In Jamaica the situation is no different. On the verge of defaulting or declaring bankruptcy the JLP government turned to the IMF for a bail out, but with the understanding that massive burdens would be placed on the poor as the basis of the IMF guarantee to creditors.
The fact that the government has not completely performed its end of the bargain as demanded by the IMF should not be interpreted to mean that there is any fundamental conflict between the two. One of the main sticking points is that the government had been expected to institute massive public sector layoffs, but not done because of declining public support over the Coke affair which they fear would be compounded by labour strife. As the IMF no doubt realizes such savaging (as Seaga sympathetically describes it) has to be done at the most opportune time.
Will Andrew Holness be able to pull it off? Or must it wait until a possible PNP government is in power? There is no reason to believe that the PNP would be shy about taking such resolute action. After all, they have been crying for the government to get back on track with the IMF.
So if the real import of the OWS or 99% Movement is to have any meaning in Jamaica the appropriate slogans and demands must be raised.
1. No to public sector layoffs. The unions have sent mixed signals about this. as if they would be prepared to accept such layoffs. These trade union bureaucrats must not be allowed to betray the workers.
2. Tax the rich. The government could only muster the courage to impose a minimal tax increase on incomes over 5 million dollars for one year! The taxation measures being discussed in parliament and endorsed by the IMF is nothing but a trick… to impose a more regressive taxation system on the poor and the working class and reduce taxes for the wealthy and for corporations. This must be rejected.
3. Repudiate the debt. It cannot be repaid. The Debt Exchange, though praised, did not go far enough. Where is the economic rebound to come from to reduce the debt other than from squeezing the poor who cannot be squeezed any further.
Read the rest at Jamaica ResistOut of Many One People Online
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Protesters chained in ‘Occupy Half-Way-Tree’
Protesters chained in ‘Occupy Half-Way-Tree’
By KIMMO MATTHEWS Observer staff reporter [email protected]
Thursday, October 27, 2011
<span style="font-weight: bold">A small group of Jamaicans, led by Children’s Advocate Betty-Ann Blaine, this morning chained themselves to the median near the clock in Half-Way-Tree square in a protest against “inequities and injustices in the Jamaican society”.</span>
Taking their cue from the Occupy Wall Street movement in the United States, where the protests are against social and economic inequality, corporate greed, corporate power and influence over government particularly from the financial services sector, the Occupy Half-Way-Tree group said they would protest as long as necessary to get their point across.
"We are calling on Jamaicans wherever they are, to occupy wherever they are send a message to the injustices in the society," said Blaine.
She said high food prices, mounting light bills, lack of jobs, growing poverty, corruption and huge income gaps were among concerns of the group.
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