Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

[Wendy]

Hey Kia,

Saw your protest over the fight over the construction of TransCanada's Keystone XL on TV Sunday night ...but mi neva si yuh inna di crowd

Mi hear seh nearly 10,000 demonstrators gathered outside of the White House an couple people get arrested. Mi dis hope yuh an Mister Kia noh dey a Jail.



Keep up the good fight girl

[kia027]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

I am in the polar bear suit

Yes we have to keep up the fight for our children & grandchildren. This pipeline to take tar sands from the soil will pollute the aquifer that provides water to many states. Plus it is just a major environmental disaster waiting to happen.


What I loved is the NOXL signs all contained quotes from Barack Obama's campaign on the environment.

10,000 of us were there to remind him of his promise. 10,000 of us were there to show our support. 10,000 of us were there to free Barack We circled the white house 3 people deep

[Wendy]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

Mi did have a feeling a yuh inna di bear suite enoh

Well, it look like unu a put Barack inna wan sticky position


Was reading some stuff here about it

[kia027]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

Wendy if you look at the fact that TransCanada screened the applicants for the Environmental Impact Study. Cardno Entrix was selected.. Guess who is a major client of Cardno Entrix yep.. TransCanada - a clear conflict of interest


They worry about the relationship between TransCanada lobbyist Paul Elliott and State Department officials. Elliott was deputy campaign manager for the 2008 presidential campaign of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The groups are also concerned about the recent hiring of former TransCanada lobbyist Broderick Johnson to be a senior adviser to Obama's re-election campaign.

"TransCanada hired good friends of Secretary Clinton to lobby for the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline and it seems to have paid off with access and patronage from the State Department," said Brune. "This is surprising from Secretary Clinton, whom we've known as a champion of children's health and the environment. It's time to roll back the curtain on TransCanada, this dirty political insider game, and this dangerous and unnecessary pipeline


So yes TransCanada has been buying their way in.. but the difference is we know this and will not let the pipleline go.

The Sierra Club was instrumental in organizing this event and are very active in this subject


and for the more practical question.. how are the Koch brothers in this?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Koch’s Pine Bend Refinery in Minnesota currently processes roughly 25% of the tar sands fuel imports to the United States. Koch owns Flint Hills Resources, LLP, in Calgary, Canada, which is “among Canada’s largest crude oil purchasers, shippers and exporters.” Flint Hills Resources also operates a crude oil terminal in Hardisty, Alberta, where the Keystone XL pipeline will begin. According to the Government of Alberta, Koch Industries has both proposed and producing tar sands projects in the province. The Oil Sands Developers Group also indicates that Koch is a tar sands project developer. Koch’s Corpus Christi refinery is positioned near the end of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline and would be a potential buyer for the tar sands crude shipped through the pipeline.</div></div>
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[Peasie]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10,000 of us were there to remind him of his promise. 10,000 of us were there to show our support. 10,000 of us were there to free Barack We circled the white house 3 people deep </div></div>

ten thousand! what a turn out!

[Nanook]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

It is a terrible thing and big companies are also pulling stunts in Minnesota mining that will endanger our wild rice which is a staple of food and income for the Native population. In Wisconsin, also near a reservation, they are trying to start a new mining operation that will have disastrous effects on the lands.




Keep up the good fight Kia.

[kia027]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

Yes Peasie 10,000 people turned out .. Nanook thanks.

Pay for play with this deal was not unnoticed, nor will it be ignored

Keystone XL Pipeline Decision to Be Investigated
By JOHN M. BRODER

WASHINGTON — The State Department’s inspector general will conduct a special investigation of the handling of the pending decision on the proposed Keystone XL pipeline in response to reports of improper pressure on policy makers and possible conflicts of interest, according to documents released on Monday.

Harold W. Geisel, the senior official in the inspector general’s office, told top agency officials in a memorandum dated Friday that he would open the review “to determine to what extent the department and all other parties involved complied with federal laws and regulations” relating to the pipeline permit process.

The internal investigation could <span style="font-weight: bold">delay the Obama administration’s decision on whether to approve the $7 billion project, which would carry oil extracted from Canadian tar sands to refineries in Oklahoma and along the Gulf Coast.</span> The State Department had set a deadline of year’s end to determine whether the pipeline is in the national interest, but officials suggested last week that the schedule could slip.

Objections by states along the pipeline right of way — particularly Nebraska, which is asking for a review of the proposed route — could also delay the decision for months.

Last week, President Obama also raised questions about the project, indicating that he would make the ultimate decision about whether it goes forward based on a recommendation from the State Department. He set no deadline.

More than a<span style="font-weight: bold"> dozen members of Congress had asked for an independent inquiry into the department’s review of the 1,700-mile pipeline,</span> citing reports in The New York Times and elsewhere that the State Department allowed the pipeline developer, TransCanada, to choose the company that prepared an assessment of the project’s environmental impact.

That company, <span style="font-weight: bold">Cardno Entrix, listed TransCanada as a “major client” on other projects and has a financial relationship with the pipeline developer.</span>

The assessment found that the project would have<span style="font-weight: bold"> “minimal” environmental impact even though it would pass through Nebraska’s sensitive Sand Hills region and traverse the Ogallala Aquifer, a critical source of drinking water in the Great Plains. </span> The Environmental Protection Agency raised serious objections to an earlier version of the impact statement but has not issued its final verdict.

One of TransCanada’s principal lobbyists, Paul Elliott, was a senior staff member in Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign. A TransCanada spokesman defended the company’s conduct. “We welcome an independent review by the inspector general’s office so that these latest claims by professional activists and lawmakers who are adamantly opposed to our pipeline project can be addressed,” said the spokesman, Terry Cunha.

Environmental groups have mobilized two big demonstrations in Washington this year, including one on Sunday at which several thousand protesters circled the White House and demanded that Mr. Obama kill the project. They say it threatens sensitive lands and water supplies, promotes a particularly dirty type of fuel and would deepen the nation’s dependence on climate-altering fossil fuels.

But proponents, including several labor unions, say the project would provide thousands of jobs and reduce the nation’s imports of oil from the Middle East and other unstable regions.


<span style="font-style: italic">tired of the manipulation of the impact to make it look like it is either damage the environment or allow people to have jobs Tons of jobs can be created developing other sources of energy that are eco friendly (solar/ wind) </span>

[RichD]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

this is a political hot potato.

he is over a barrel. which ever decision he makes he loses....the best option for him right now is to delay it

[kia027]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a political hot potato.

he is over a barrel. which ever decision he makes he loses....the best option for him right now is to delay it </div></div>

depends on how much he wants to get reelected

[RichD]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a political hot potato.

he is over a barrel. which ever decision he makes he loses....the best option for him right now is to delay it </div></div>

depends on how much he wants to get reelected </div></div>

what yuh mean?

[Wendy]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a political hot potato.

he is over a barrel. which ever decision he makes he loses....the best option for him right now is to delay it </div></div>

Bway mi noh know why people want dis job of POTUS

Because I can hear it from the other critics... if im nix the program in this economic climate, yuh ago hear dem seh im anti-business and jobs

But I do understand the ramifications of running that pipe-line. Lawks mi wudden want be inna fi im shoes

[kia027]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">this is a political hot potato.

he is over a barrel. which ever decision he makes he loses....the best option for him right now is to delay it </div></div>

depends on how much he wants to get reelected </div></div>

what yuh mean? </div></div>

so far he has pushed out the issue. Having the inspector general review the state dept procedures into selecting the consulting firm to do the environmental study on the xl pipeline

environmentalists are happy because now there is a natural delay for more facts

people for the pipeline not happy because the decision is delayed

those who are spinning the pipeline as a job creator are not happy


obama's campaign was built on grassroots and the grassroots are speaking to him; reminding him of his campaign promises

[RichD]

Re: Kia - Yuh deh a Prison?? Mi neva si yuh pan TV

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

depends on how much he wants to get reelected </div></div>

what yuh mean? </div></div>

so far he has pushed out the issue. Having the inspector general review the state dept procedures into selecting the consulting firm to do the environmental study on the xl pipeline

environmentalists are happy because now there is a natural delay for more facts

people for the pipeline not happy because the decision is delayed

those who are spinning the pipeline as a job creator are not happy


obama's campaign was built on grassroots and the grassroots are speaking to him; reminding him of his campaign promises </div></div>

still not getting your point.....is it good or bad for his re-election bid?