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mii see wan director inn feedback section askinn iff peeps pon yah waan fe chatt bout colorism inna documentaree

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mii doan waan fe a movie star butt dat doan mean mii doan luv bunn fiyah pon black jamaicans self hatred.

wat mekk mii laff pon yah iss browninn jamaicans chattinn dat inn jamaica racism iss less aff ann issue dan classism

ar de jam.com oomen wey inna interracial ting cah dem wanted lite skin babies widd good hair

ar de sellout blakk jamaican men wey marry lite skin ar mzungu oomen wey doan tink race add anneeting fe do widd itt

ar de dark skinn blakk jamaicans wey tink itt blakk peeps own fault y dem ar de victims aff racism?

ar de blakk jamaicans wey described marley as de master rasta even dough rasta att itt root a blakk supremacee ting?

ar de rastas wey selected selassie as a blakk god cah imm wass lite skin

ar de latest jlp politrixx leader dai iss young gifted ann lite skinn

ar dat rich jewish jamaican oyinbo jew wey a try fe keep alive oyinbo jewish histaree inn jamaica bye ignorinn mixxed race jewish yuths dat neva ignore

imagine dat oyinbo installed a color codinn babylon system based pon social statification inn jamaica ann a latt aff jamaica still rationalized colorism ann racism inn jamaica

anneeting too blakk nuh too

let chatt bout jamaica colorism prablem ann sum aff de racist jamaica seyings

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ar de blakk jamaicans wey described marley as de master rasta even dough rasta att itt root a blakk supremacee ting?</div></div>

master rasta?
what is that?
marley was chosen by creation for a purpose and fulfilled it...his mother, who he grew with, was a black darkskinned jamaican woman...
his skin tone had no bearing on his mission...africans come in all skin tones and his mission was rastafari a.k.a. afrikan redemption &amp; humanity


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ar de rastas wey selected selassie as a blakk god cah imm wass lite skin</div></div>

no one selected selassie...it was prophecy from thousands of years involving ethiopia, africa, and the lion of the tribe of judah...
selassie-- an ethiopian-african man...fulfilled the mission regardless of his skin tone...again africans are the most diverse on the planet &amp; ethiopia the most diverse in africa;

it's obvious you have some overstanding to do when it come on to rastafari...

it bun out racism, not uphold it...
it defends the mother- africa--- it does not specify that only certain shades of dark brown can qualify for african unity

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let chatt bout jamaica colorism prablem ann sum aff de racist jamaica seyings</div></div>

any colorism problem jamaica have right now is them want it dah way deh...

plenty of our foreparents have already come and told us to cut out the fuggery...they have tried to teach us to have pride in ourselves but some have ignored that message &amp; fell into the trap of babylonia media, teachings &amp; philosophy...

the armshouse prophets who are very popular- like vybz kartel- are still bigging up bleaching...90% of the women prefer hair of other races-- even the prime minister-- what kind of message are they sending to the youth?
the message is clear:
we don't have african pride so why should you

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Before the colorism debate gets carried away, do bear in mind that not all Africans are dark skinned with wide noses. The San Bushmen of Africa are believed to be the oldest living tribes on the planet and in terms of features like eyes, skin and hair texture exhibit a mixture from the different 'races' . If I recall correctly from this documentary I watched a while back called &quot;The Journey of Man&quot; genetic research shows that everybody who is alive today is descended from direct ancestors of the San Bushmen. Note that the San have what we would call Chiny eyes, brown skin, and curly to 'kinky' hair - they look like a composite of all the races. So not all africans are jet black with wide noses. The San were the first 'brownins

[jah_yout]

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thanks...
i've been trying to hammer this point across...that afrika is the most diverse of continenets in terms of human variation;
some think all africans are blue-black with one type of hair texture---HOGWASH!!

that said...many africans today see eurasian physical characterisitics as the epitome of beauty and go about altering themselves to fit into that mold;

or the other extreme of denying someone else's heritage based on the tone of their skin or hair

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ar de blakk jamaicans wey described marley as de master rasta even dough rasta att itt root a blakk supremacee ting?</div></div>

master rasta?
what is that?
marley was chosen by creation for a purpose and fulfilled it...his mother, who he grew with, was a black darkskinned jamaican woman...
his skin tone had no bearing on his mission...africans come in all skin tones and his mission was rastafari a.k.a. afrikan redemption &amp; humanity


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master rasta camment iss juss mii way aff chattinn bout imm oyinbo overseer faddar.

de pint yu mekk bout imm maddar iss a dark skinn jamaican ooman wey raised imm doan meen dat marley inn imm life neva add fe deal widd issue bout imm racial identity. nuh marley use fe chatt bout oww blakk yuths inna da ghetto treated imm diffarantlee cah imm faddar wass oyinbo. cyaan figgit marley seyinn imm natt pon da blakk ar oyinbo side cah imm parents were blakk ann oyinbo


now pon da moas intarestinn pint yu raise bout marley wass chosen bye creation ann imm fullfill. marley wass chosen bye oyinbo man ann imm fullfill dem markettinn goal. de reason y marley wass chosen iss cah aff imm lita complexion ann imm mixxed race heritage cah oyinbo wood more identify widd a slight built lite skin mixxed race man singinn bout bunninn fiyah pon babylon dan peter tosh da tall dark skinn well built blakk man sing bout fiyah pon babylon. saree butt marley skin tone add a latt fe doo widd imm success. even tidday yu see lite skinn musicians still gittinn biggah push ann dat wan aff de reason y vibz tunn casper

afrikkans cum inn awl shades. woo sey soo? da histaree aff afrikka show dat afrikka wass invade bye oyinbo ann oyinbo arabs. itt iss dem mixxed race children aff de invaders dat cum inn manee diffarant shades natt de afrikkans. itt like dem arab invaders inn libya committinn genocide against dark skinn blakk afrikkans ignorinn da realitee dat dem dark skinned blakk afrikkans were de ariginal indigenous natives

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ar de rastas wey selected selassie as a blakk god cah imm wass lite skin</div></div>

no one selected selassie...it was prophecy from thousands of years involving ethiopia, africa, and the lion of the tribe of judah...
selassie-- an ethiopian-african man...fulfilled the mission regardless of his skin tone...again africans are the most diverse on the planet &amp; ethiopia the most diverse in africa;

it's obvious you have some overstanding to do when it come on to rastafari...

it bun out racism, not uphold it...
it defends the mother- africa--- it does not specify that only certain shades of dark brown can qualify for african unity </div></div>

look to da east garvey sed den garvey sed selassie nuh god

sah yu ann i both knoo dat itt wass blakk men wey selected selassie as da blakk god fe blakks. yess to mii selassie fullfill imm mission cah itt tunn sum blakks fram seeinn god as oyinbo soo blakk peeps neva affii bow to oyinbo god ann pray to oyinbo god fah deliverrance fram oyinbo xxploitation

mii agree widd yu bout da diversity inn afrikkans genetics cah iff awl peeps pon diss planet came out aff afrikka deer add to be genetic diversitee butt fe ignore oww oyinbo ann oyinbo arabs rapinn affrikkans fe liten afrikka nuh wukk fe mii

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">let chatt bout jamaica colorism prablem ann sum aff de racist jamaica seyings</div></div>

any colorism problem jamaica have right now is them want it dah way deh...

plenty of our foreparents have already come and told us to cut out the fuggery...they have tried to teach us to have pride in ourselves but some have ignored that message &amp; fell into the trap of babylonia media, teachings &amp; philosophy...

the armshouse prophets who are very popular- like vybz kartel- are still bigging up bleaching...90% of the women prefer hair of other races-- even the prime minister-- what kind of message are they sending to the youth?
the message is clear:
we don't have african pride so why should you
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sum jamaicans bunn fiyah pon colorism butt more jamaicans defend itt. look oww manee diffarant shades aff blakk deer iss butt ask dem oww manee diffarant shades aff oyinbo ann dem doan kno

wan aff de joke pon yah dat mii ann tuff gong use fe share iss dat mii sum thyme use prof rex fe chatt bout racism. wan aff prof rex artikkle mii read imm chatt bout da psychological aftermath aff self negation aff jamaican men toward dark skinn blakk oomen ann dark skinn yuth ann oww dem negative views iss projected toward blakks aff diffarant shades. yet a latt aff yaawdees still doan ovatand divide ann conquer ting cah dem ave accepted colorism fe status ann fe maintain de status quo. da joke iss dat iss da definition aff mental slaveree because manee jamaicans ar gullible ann buy inna babylon misedukkayshan

dat y even tidday manee jamaicans will argue dat classism iss a biggar prablem inn jamaica dan racism cah dem willinglee accept babylon class system predicated pon race dat assigned blakk peeps lowa class roles. sum still doan gitt de joke

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diss mekk mii laff

imagine oyinbo admittinn dat de furst peeps pon de planey were afrikkans butt dem were browininn. y mii wood tink dat iss racist ann a defense aff colorism? wen yu chattinn dat natt awl afrikkans ar dark skinn doo yu tink inna cansidaration dat roles oyinbo played inn litenninn da afrikkan population troo oyinbo rapes ann de xxploitation aff afrikkans

journey aff men dat genectic trace show wass a good furst start butt oww wass de conclusion color coded bye de oyinbo scientist ar do yu beeleeve oyinbo science nuh color coded. can yuh studee madern peeps inn afrikka ann draw canclusion widdout studeeinn dem histaree


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TreyJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Before the colorism debate gets carried away, do bear in mind that not all Africans are dark skinned with wide noses. The San Bushmen of Africa are believed to be the oldest living tribes on the planet and in terms of features like eyes, skin and hair texture exhibit a mixture from the different 'races' . If I recall correctly from this documentary I watched a while back called &quot;The Journey of Man&quot; genetic research shows that everybody who is alive today is descended from direct ancestors of the San Bushmen. Note that the San have what we would call Chiny eyes, brown skin, and curly to 'kinky' hair - they look like a composite of all the races. So not all africans are jet black with wide noses. The San were the first 'brownins






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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks...
i've been trying to hammer this point across...that afrika is the most diverse of continenets in terms of human variation;
some think all africans are blue-black with one type of hair texture---HOGWASH!!

that said...many africans today see eurasian physical characterisitics as the epitome of beauty and go about altering themselves to fit into that mold;

or the other extreme of denying someone else's heritage based on the tone of their skin or hair </div></div>

jy yu missinn da pint oww much aff dat diversitee iss da results aff invaders. inn afrikka, bigg disscussion still a gawn cah dem doan cansidered certain mixxed race peeps blakk affrikkans ann dem ave a pint. since de xxploitation ann rape aff afrikkans a gawn fe such a lang thyme manee peeps now a days a normalized woo da real affrikkans ar bye includinn half breed affrikkans.

de ting iss dat moas iff natt awl jamaicans ar half breed ann doan ovatan dem histaree. itt like wen wahalla chatt bout jamaica belong to da taino ann mii tell imm dat de taino mixxed widd de afrikkans ann became marroons so now dem blacks

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The &quot;brownness&quot; of the San has nothing to do with mixing with White people. They are the oldest or one of the oldest tribes on the planet. The history of the San predate white people &quot;discovering&quot; them in Africa.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TreyJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The &quot;brownness&quot; of the San has nothing to do with mixing with White people. They are the oldest or one of the oldest tribes on the planet. The history of the San predate white people &quot;discovering&quot; them in Africa. </div></div>

treyj dat awlmoas like seyinn dat a latt aff jamaican browninns were natt de result aff rapes ann de bigg prostitution businesses. jamaica use fe ave awlmoas as much whorehouses as churches dat cater to oyinbo travellers durinn slaveree


part aff de reason y miseducated blakk ann even sum cancious blakk peeps like yuself accept colorism iss cah wii lack da historical perspective. do yu reallee knoo da histaree aff de san fiteinn oyinbo? do yu reallee beeleeve oyinbo rapists neva rape san oomen producinn browninn san wen dem wage war against colonial oppression. awl mii seyinn iss dat lackinn historikkal perspective lead yu to canclude da de arginal san were browninn.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> There are many different Bushman peoples - they have no collective name for themselves, and the terms 'Bushman', 'San', 'Basarwa' (in Botswana) are used. <span style="font-weight: bold">The term, 'bushman', came from the Dutch term, 'bossiesman', which means 'bandit' or 'outlaw'. It was given to the Bushmen during their long fight against colonial powers.
The Bushmen interpreted this as a proud and respected reference to their valiant fight for freedom from domination and colonization. Many now accept the terms Bushmen or San. The San or Bushmen people of today are those that speak San languages.</span>

The principal San-speaking groups remaining today live in Botswana, South Africa, Namibia and Angola. The South African San are refugees from the Angolan and Namibian wars. Their languages, although fundamentally similar, vary considerably from place to place. San is primarily a linguistic label, adopted by anthropologists to describe people speaking these related but distinct languages.
<span style="font-weight: bold">These languages, all of which incorporate 'click' sounds are represented in writing by symbols such as !, /, //, ‡, |.</span>

They have been oppressed and dispossessed by both Bantu and European immigrant groups. The Bushmen were regarded as not just animals, but as vermin, and history even documents hunting of them for sport.
This has lead to the total population of the Bushmen dropping to 100 000 throughout southern Africa.

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[quote=TreyJ]Before the colorism debate gets carried away, do bear in mind that not all Africans are dark skinned with wide noses. The San Bushmen of Africa are believed to be the oldest living tribes on the planet and in terms of features like eyes, skin and hair texture exhibit a mixture from the different 'races' . If I recall correctly from this documentary I watched a while back called &quot;The Journey of Man&quot; genetic research shows that everybody who is alive today is descended from direct ancestors of the San Bushmen. Note that the San have what we would call Chiny eyes, brown skin, and curly to 'kinky' hair -<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="font-weight: bold"> they look like a composite of all the ra</span>ces</span>. So not all africans are jet black with wide noses. The San were the first 'brownins

Make sense that if we descended from 2 people, the 2 people would have to be a &quot;composite&quot; of all the so called &quot; races &quot; now present on the earth. I accepted this theory about 15 years ago.

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Agreed this is not colorism but it does shed some light on the issue, cause colorism has its roots in racism.
Joshua is of the opinion that all so called racial problems in Jamaica is at root based in our economic history and so becomes a class problem.
Fast forward to the last 1 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpfKn88qaSc&amp;feature=related

only the first 3 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgYyWep5y-U&amp;feature=related

I am not in total agreement but it is indeed mostly true.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ar de blakk jamaicans wey described marley as de master rasta even dough rasta att itt root a blakk supremacee ting?</div></div>

master rasta?
what is that?
marley was chosen by creation for a purpose and fulfilled it...his mother, who he grew with, was a black darkskinned jamaican woman...
his skin tone had no bearing on his mission...africans come in all skin tones and his mission was rastafari a.k.a. afrikan redemption &amp; humanity


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master rasta camment iss juss mii way aff chattinn bout imm oyinbo overseer faddar.

de pint yu mekk bout imm maddar iss a dark skinn jamaican ooman wey raised imm doan meen dat marley inn imm life neva add fe deal widd issue bout imm racial identity. nuh marley use fe chatt bout oww blakk yuths inna da ghetto treated imm diffarantlee cah imm faddar wass oyinbo. cyaan figgit marley seyinn imm natt pon da blakk ar oyinbo side cah imm parents were blakk ann oyinbo


now pon da moas intarestinn pint yu raise bout marley wass chosen bye creation ann imm fullfill. marley wass chosen bye oyinbo man ann imm fullfill dem markettinn goal. de reason y marley wass chosen iss cah aff imm lita complexion ann imm mixxed race heritage cah oyinbo wood more identify widd a slight built lite skin mixxed race man singinn bout bunninn fiyah pon babylon dan peter tosh da tall dark skinn well built blakk man sing bout fiyah pon babylon. saree butt marley skin tone add a latt fe doo widd imm success. even tidday yu see lite skinn musicians still gittinn biggah push ann dat wan aff de reason y vibz tunn casper

afrikkans cum inn awl shades. woo sey soo? da histaree aff afrikka show dat afrikka wass invade bye oyinbo ann oyinbo arabs. itt iss dem mixxed race children aff de invaders dat cum inn manee diffarant shades natt de afrikkans. itt like dem arab invaders inn libya committinn genocide against dark skinn blakk afrikkans ignorinn da realitee dat dem dark skinned blakk afrikkans were de ariginal indigenous natives </div></div>


kisteet...

if you lived in jamaica in kingston in ghetto areas in the 1970's you would know the extent of fart weh yu just chat....

if marley was chosen by 'oyinbo' who was peter tosh chosen by?
they were all in the same band 'the wailers'...does the fact that peter tosh worked with mick jagger diminish his message?

each used the other for a purpose but that did not change the message nor the mission...go inna africa &amp; find out what kind of respect they have for marley...it's only racism &amp; colorism which clouds your mind from the works...
go find out about mortimo planno &amp; his mission for bob marley...a chroo dem nuh know