Russian troops massing along Syrian border

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">



I stand corrected. Warships, not standing army. </div></div>

there was some coverage and analysis in the nytimes

[diabolical_Tanya]

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I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

he tryin to wake us up from our slumber...saying pay attention to other things..i think that is what he is alluding to

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

he tryin to wake us up from our slumber...saying pay attention to other things..i think that is what he is alluding to </div></div>


Kotch Foot started it, not me...

[RichD]

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<span style="font-weight: bold">US carrier strike force enters Syrian waters. Russian carrier en route </span>
DEBKAfile Special Report November 26, 2011, 11:33 AM (GMT+02:00) Tags: Syria US aircraft carriers Russian warships Arab League Turkey

The USS Bush enters Syrian waters
The Syrian crisis aassumed a big power dimension this week with the build-up of rival United States and Russia naval air carrier armadas in Syrian waters, DEBKAfile's military sources report.
T<span style="font-weight: bold">he USS George H.W. Bush arrived Wednesday, Nov. 23, in the wake of the three Russian warships anchored earlier opposite Tartus which established a command post in the Syrian port. They will be augmented by Russia's only air carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, which is due in mid-week.</span>
By deploying 70 ship-borne fighter-bombers plus three heavy guided missile cruisers and five guided missile destroyers opposite Syria, Washington has laid down military support for any intervention the Arab League in conjunction with Turkey may decide on.
Bashar Assad can see for himself that Washington has hoisted a nuclear aerial umbrella to protect its allies, Israel, Turkey, and Jordan, against the retaliation his armed forces high command pledged Friday for the deaths of six Syrian air force elite pilots in an ambush Thursday.
For some time, Ankara has been weighing the creation of a protected haven for rebels and refugees inside Syria. France has proposed slicing &quot;humanitarian corridors&quot; through Syria for them to flee safely from military tank and gunfire and secure supply of food, medicines and other essential supplies to the cities under army siege.
Both plans would depend on being safeguarded by substantial ground and air strength inside Syria which would certainly face fierce resistance from Assad's military.
The Arab League has scheduled weekend meetings to decide how to proceed after Damascus ignored its Friday deadline for accepting hundreds of monitors. Saturday, Nov. 26, AL finance ministers will discuss economic sanctions. In the past 48 hours, at least 70 people were reported killed as the Syrian army continued its crackdown in the face of spreading armed opposition.
The Russian Kuznetzov carrier and its accompanying strike vessels will join the three Russian warships parked opposite Tartus for more than a week. It will enter the same Syrian offshore waters as the USS Bush and the US Sixth Fleet, which is permanently posted in the Mediterranean.
The Syrian crisis is therefore building up to a superpower face-off unparalleled since the Cold War between America and the Soviet Union ended in the nineties, DEBKAfile's military sources note.
While Washington clearly stands ready to back operations against the Assad regime, Moscow is drawing a red line around his presidential palace in Damascus. The Kremlin is warning the US, NATO and the Arab League that they will not be allowed to repeat their feat in Libya of overthrowing Muammar Qaddafi against Assad.
In the face of this escalating big power standoff and the high possibility of the Syrian ruler deciding to lash out against his country's neighbors, the Israeli, Jordanian and Turkey armies have declared a high state of war preparedness.

[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

The question was asked ....why the media is not reporting these things?

My point was that most people seem to be more concerned with the fluff on TV than staying abreast of the news that could change the world.

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

The question was asked ....why the media is not reporting these things?

My point was that most people seem to be more concerned with the fluff on TV than staying abreast of the news that could change the world. </div></div>

i consume quite a bit of news and there is so much misinformation out there that sometimes i think people are better off just watching the fluff.

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

The question was asked ....why the media is not reporting these things?

My point was that most people seem to be more concerned with the fluff on TV than staying abreast of the news that could change the world. </div></div>

i consume quite a bit of news and there is so much misinformation out there that sometimes <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">i think people are better off just watching the fluff</span>.</span> </div></div>


I disagree Rich. I think people are better off putting the fluff aside and consuming information from whatever sources, to stay abreast of what's really happening in the world.

So when situations like Gaddaffi being removed arises, people don't believe the NONSENSE that NATO went there to protect civilians.

Now, because Russia backed Syria, the CIA are causing angst on the streets of Moscow.

[SandiF]

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What is disheartening is that folks like Kotch foot who seem to think that everyone is doing like he does.... watching fluff like Desperate Housewives and not staying abreast of the news.

I don't think most people believe the nonsense from Nato either in regards to Libya.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

The question was asked ....why the media is not reporting these things?

My point was that most people seem to be more concerned with the fluff on TV than staying abreast of the news that could change the world. </div></div>

i consume quite a bit of news and there is so much misinformation out there that sometimes <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">i think people are better off just watching the fluff</span>.</span> </div></div>


I disagree Rich. I think people are better off putting the fluff aside and consuming information from whatever sources, to stay abreast of what's really happening in the world.

So when situations like Gaddaffi being removed arises, people don't believe the NONSENSE that NATO went there to protect civilians.

Now, because Russia backed Syria, the CIA are causing angst on the streets of Moscow.

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[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is disheartening is that folks like Kotch foot who seem to think that everyone is doing like he does.... watching fluff like Desperate Housewives and not staying abreast of the news. </div></div>

Hey I'm just the messenger. I bet a lot more Americans (and other westerners to a lesser degree perhaps) can tell me who the finalist on the X-Factor are than can point to the country of Syria on a map.

Hey, I am just as guilty as the next as far as being distracted by the crap the media and capitalism in general spoon feeds us. I wish I knew more about the history of Russia/USA/Syrian dynamics but I was too busy playing Angry Birds.

I too have been dumbed down with the best of them.

[jah_yout]

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DWL yea we all been dumbed down to a degree...

actually being dumbed down is the norm right now...the struggle is breaking free from it

[SandiF]

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Nah, you're no messenger bro.

What stuck out about the OP posting was the inaccuracy of the headline... If you'd known your geography you would know that Russia and Syria are not bordering countries.......


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is disheartening is that folks like Kotch foot who seem to think that everyone is doing like he does.... watching fluff like Desperate Housewives and not staying abreast of the news. </div></div>

Hey I'm just the messenger. I bet a lot more Americans (and other westerners to a lesser degree perhaps) can tell me who the finalist on the X-Factor are than can point to the country of Syria on a map.

Hey, I am just as guilty as the next as far as being distracted by the crap the media and capitalism in general spoon feeds us. I wish I knew more about the history of Russia/USA/Syrian dynamics but I was too busy playing Angry Birds.

I too have been dumbed down with the best of them. </div></div>

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand how this relates to X-factor/Idol/housewives? I didn't know any of them had a set/stage in Syria or Israel </div></div>

The question was asked ....why the media is not reporting these things?

My point was that most people seem to be more concerned with the fluff on TV than staying abreast of the news that could change the world. </div></div>

i consume quite a bit of news and there is so much misinformation out there that sometimes <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">i think people are better off just watching the fluff</span>.</span> </div></div>


I disagree Rich. I think people are better off putting the fluff aside and consuming information from whatever sources, to stay abreast of what's really happening in the world.

So when situations like Gaddaffi being removed arises, people don't believe the NONSENSE that NATO went there to protect civilians.

Now, because Russia backed Syria, the CIA are causing angst on the streets of Moscow.

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well they not going to get much real news on TV. for example what is passing for substantive discussion tonight...&quot;osama bin laden the porn king ws taken down by george bush's hard work.&quot;.

[X]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will someone kindly explain to me why this important development is not being reported by the Western media?
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was listening a guy on Coast to Coast that was saying that this could somehow result in WW3 ..

He explained how, but it went over my head..

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SandiF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nah, you're no messenger bro.

What stuck out about the OP posting was the inaccuracy of the headline... If you'd known your geography you would know that <span style="font-weight: bold">Russia and Syria are not bordering countries.</span>......


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that was the genesis of my first question..i was interested to know which country they were cooperating with and why.