State of the Union

[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but americans still believe the u.s. is the best, and they are the smartest in the world, so he cant tell them differently </div></div>

True!

[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">part of the job is being head cheerleader.


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Again, ture!

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The empire is in decline, time for the president to have an adult conversation with the American people about the cold hard facts</div></div>.

not gonna happen...too afraid the other party will jump on it for political gain...just like in jamaica, neither party can deliver the real story for fear of the fallout- so they have to tell the public half-truths &amp; all out lies...

this is the problem with the system...it has run its course;

the country is divided therefore the political parties are divided...they simply will not do anything that will help the merkkkan people if it looks like the other party is responsible...the new slogan should be &quot;put your party first and america second&quot;;

the problem i have with all these speeches &amp; addresses is that at the end of the day it's just talk...
if it was as simple as putting a bill on your desk and signing it, couldn't that have been done in the over 3 years you've been in office?
you certainly had enough time to sign indefinite detention bills &amp; what not...
when does it become absurd to keep talking about what obama &quot;inherited&quot; from the bush regime....
most people will take this as me being anti-obama but that is not the case...
what i am opposed to is the attempt by the ruling class to gloss over the most serious problems facing the country with tired slogans...they simply refuse to face the problems head on...the main word that comes to my mind is
<span style="font-weight: bold">DENIAL</span>

america is in denial so we play the &quot;best country on earth&quot; card...that card soon get trumped by other powers more in tune with reality and changing historical forces...

is war with iran really an intelligent prospect at this time?
is the deficit infinite?
why did he not mention the occupy movements &amp; the police forces unleashed on the citizenry?

DENIAL

[quodlibet]

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Did you do the State of the Union drinking game?

every year, some words are suggested with rules to drink for example

1. finish your drink(s) anytime he uses the word &quot;fair&quot;
2. fresh round anytime he uses the words &quot;bin laden&quot;, &quot;freedom&quot;, &quot;iraq&quot;

[Wendy]

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Sounds like fun. Did you? How much did you have to drink? :

Will adopt this game the next SOTU

[quodlibet]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNdY_PeNdY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like fun. Did you? How much did you have to drink? :

Will adopt this game the next SOTU </div></div>

mi no memba, so mi figga it mean seh im did seh di word dem nuff...

[Wendy]

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DWL .. Yes di word &quot;fair&quot; was used a lot. So was the word &quot;tax/ taxes&quot;

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;both parties agree on these ideas so put them in a bill and get them on my desk, this year!&quot; : </div></div>

dat de joke moas peeps doan gitt de demonkkkrats ann de republikkans ar runninn pon de same ideas

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
it's impossible to build america at home while maintaining empire abroad and using war to implement political &amp; philosophical policy </div></div>


dissagree widd diss

cah dat oww amerikka was built

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I agree! Obama talks about an America where if you work hard, you can raise a family, buy a home, save to send your kids to college and maybe have a little bit left for retirement.

How is that going to happen when the companies that hire people are fleeing the country in search of cheap labour and the companies that still employ Americans want to pay them peanuts.

The new America is a country where people who have a college degree may have to work two, three or maybe four part-time jobs just to eat and keep a roof over their heads.

The empire is in decline, time for the president to have an adult conversation with the American people about the cold hard facts. Perhaps if he wins a second term and does not have to worry about re-election, we will see a different president with a much more sobbering message. </div></div>

doan tink dem companies fleeinn merikka. capitalism iss dat yu outsource jabs to area widd cheaper labor butt dat doan meen de companies still natt based inn merikka. itt like apple outsourcinn ann openinn factories inn farreen butt dem home based iss inn merikka so dat will cantreebute to merikka gdp ann create more multimillionaires ann billionaires even dough merikkans wurkers ave less jabs. trickle dumb eecaanyamikk policies

obama tekk credit fe creatinn 3 million jabs butt oww manee aff dem tree million jabs ar service jabs widd low wage. imm foreclosure ting woan help moas blakks ann poor peeps. y iss de overall unemployment rate declininn wild de unemployment rate fe blakks still on de rise? mii keep askinn de same qwestians oww does obama policies benefit blakks ann iff imm doan appeal to blakk voters conncerns blakks peeps will stay home ann natt vote ann obama will lose. too manee blakks cumplaininn bout obama fe obama natt fe bee conncernn iff imm waan fe be reelected

[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

doan tink dem companies fleeinn merikka. capitalism iss dat yu outsource jabs to area widd cheaper labor butt dat doan meen de companies still natt based inn merikka. itt like apple outsourcinn ann openinn factories inn farreen butt dem home based iss inn merikka so dat will cantreebute to merikka gdp ann create more multimillionaires ann billionaires even dough merikkans wurkers ave less jabs. trickle dumb eecaanyamikk policies </div></div>

Yes, your are right, jobs are fleeing, not companies. Thanks for that.

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but americans still believe the u.s. is the best, and they are the smartest in the world, so he cant tell them differently </div></div>

True! </div></div>

I dont think they still feel this way.. unless they are soo dumbed down they cant see it

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but americans still believe the u.s. is the best, and they are the smartest in the world, so he cant tell them differently </div></div>

True! </div></div>

I dont think they still feel this way.. unless they are soo dumbed down they cant see it </div></div>

yuh nuh hear the President sey that if anybody tell you America is in a decline they don't know what they talking about.

[johnnycakes]

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This quote from John Pilger

“Into shards of (censored)ing dust go all the lives blown there by Barack Obama, the Hopey Changey agent of western violence. Whenever one of Obama’s drones wipes out an entire family in a faraway tribal region of Pakistan, or Somalia, or Yemen, the American controllers in front of their computer-game screens type in ‘Bugsplat.’ Obama likes drones and has joked about them with journalists. One of his first actions as president was to order a wave of Predator drone attacks on Pakistan that killed 74 people. He has since killed thousands, mostly civilians; drones fire Hellfire missiles that suck the air out of the lungs of children and leave body parts festooned across scrubland.”

“….as the great whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg had predicted, a military coup was taking place in Washington, and Obama was their man. Having seduced the anti-war movement into virtual silence, he has given America’s corrupt military officer class unprecedented powers of state and engagement. These include the prospect of wars in Africa and opportunities for provocations against China, America’s largest creditor and new ‘enemy’ in Asia. Under Obama, the old source of official paranoia Russia, has been encircled with ballistic missiles and the Russian opposition infiltrated. Military and CIA assassination teams have been assigned to 120 countries; long planned attacks on Syria and Iran beckon a world war. Israel, the exemplar of US violence and lawlessness by proxy, has just received its annual pocket money of $3bn together with Obama’s permission to steal more Palestinian land.”

“Obama’s most ‘historic’ achievement is to bring the war on democracy home to America. On New Year’s Eve, he signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), a law that grants the Pentagon the legal right to kidnap both foreigners and US citizens and indefinitely detain, interrogate and torture, or even kill them. They need only ‘associate’ with those ‘belligerent’ to the United States. There will be no protection of law, no trial, no legal representation. This is the first explicit legislation to abolish habeas corpus (the right to due process of law) and effectively repeal the Bill of Rights…”

“On 5 January, in an extraordinary speech at the Pentagon, Obama said the military would not only be ready to ‘secure territory and populations’ overseas but to fight in the ‘homeland’ and provide ‘support to the civil authorities.’ In other words, US troops will be deployed on the streets of American cities when the inevitable civil unrest takes hold.”

“America is now a land of epidemic poverty and barbaric prisons: the consequence of a ‘market’ extremism which, under Obama, has prompted the transfer of $14 trillion in public money to criminal enterprises in Wall Street. The victims are mostly young jobless, homeless, incarcerated African-Americans, betrayed by the first black president. The historic corollary of a perpetual war state, this is not fascism, not yet, but neither is it democracy in any recognisable form, regardless of the placebo politics that will consume the news until November. The presidential campaign, says the Washington Post, will ‘feature a clash of philosophies rooted in distinctly different views of the economy.’ This is patently false. The circumscribed task of journalism on both sides of the Atlantic is to create the pretence of political choice where there is none.”

But so much for “this policy or that policy,” like, you know, the proto-fascistic abolition of habeas corpus or the violation of international laws against murderous and unprovoked aggression on innocent civilians, and the massive taxpayer-funded bailout and re-legitimization of the parasitic financial institutions that crashed the economy while tens of millions of Americans struggle against destitution without adequate assistance and millions languish behind bars in the racist mass incarceration system! “At least the current emperor isn’t a Republican!” Progressives’ less-evil-ism bears some of the blame for the nauseating smugness of people like Mellman, who epitomizes elite Democrats’ basic attitude towards those who stand to the left of their party’s capitalist and imperial behavior: “screw ‘em, they’ve got nowhere else to go.”

The rest of the article (link below) is about the usefulness or uselessness of voting.

http://www.zcommunications.org/reflections-on-the-quadrennial-extravaganza-by-paul-street

[Skelly]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KF_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hopefully the dumbed down population will see through the deception and vote with their brains. </div></div>

Never!