garvey versus mulatoo establishment

[blugiant]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was a black man and therefore had absolutely no right to lead; in the opinion of the &quot;colored&quot; element, leadership should have been in the hands of a yellow or a very light man. On such flimsy prejudices our race has been retarded. There is more bitterness among us negroes because of the caste of color than there is between any other peoples</div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really never knew there was so much color prejudice in Jamaica, my own native home, until I started the work of the Universal Negro Improvement Association....The daily papers wrote me up with big headlines and told of my movement. But nobody wanted to be a negro. &quot;Garvey is crazy; he has lost his head,&quot; &quot;Is that the use he is going to make of his experience and intelligence?&quot; - such were the criticisms passed upon me. Men and women as black as I, and even more so, had
believed themselves white under the West Indian order of societal. I was simply an impossible man to use openly the term &quot;negro;&quot; yet every one beneath his breath was calling the black man a negro</div></div>

The Negro's Greatest Enemy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had to decide whether to please my friends and be one of the &quot;black- whites&quot; of Jamaica, and be reasonably prosperous, or come out openly and defend and help improve and protect the integrity of the black millions and suffer. I decided to do the latter,
hence my offence against &quot;colored-black-white&quot; society in the colonies and America. I was openly hated and persecuted by some of these colored men of the island who did not want to be classified as negroes, but as white.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Being black, I have committed an unpardonable offense against the very light colored negroes in America and the West Indies by making myself famous as a negro leader of millions. In their view, no black man must rise above them, but I still forge ahead determined to give to the world the truth about the new negro who is determined to make and hold for himself a place in the
affairs of men. The Universal Negro Improvement Association has been misrepresented by my enemies. They have tried to make it appear that we are hostile to other races. This is absolutely false. We love all humanity. We are working for the peace of the world which we believe can only come about when all races are given their due. </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We feel that there is absolutely no reason why there should be any differences between the black and white races, if each stop to adjust and steady itself. We believe in the purity of both races. We do not believe the black man should be encouraged in the idea that his highest purpose in life is to marry a white woman, but we do believe that the white man should be taught to respect the black woman in the same way as he wants the black man to respect the white woman. It is a vicious and dangerous doctrine of social equality to urge, as certain colored leaders do, that black and white should get together, for that would destroy the racial purity of both. </div></div>

[franksterr]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was a black man and therefore had absolutely no right to lead; in the opinion of the &quot;colored&quot; element, leadership should have been in the hands of a yellow or a very light man. On such flimsy prejudices our race has been retarded. There is more bitterness among us negroes because of the caste of color than there is between any other peoples</div></div>

This is true and the main reason is racism or in this case colorism. It continues to this day because of a lack of culture and the legacies of colonialism.
Using sex as a weapon the white man has left us with a group of Africans with divided loyalties and the hope of bridging that divide


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really never knew there was so much color prejudice in Jamaica, my own native home, until I started the work of the Universal Negro Improvement Association....The daily papers wrote me up with big headlines and told of my movement. But nobody wanted to be a negro. &quot;Garvey is crazy; he has lost his head,&quot; &quot;Is that the use he is going to make of his experience and intelligence?&quot; - such were the criticisms passed upon me. Men and women as black as I, and even more so, had
believed themselves white under the West Indian order of societal. I was simply an impossible man to use openly the term &quot;negro;&quot; yet every one beneath his breath was calling the black man a negro</div></div>

That was True.
Garveyism and Rasta has changed that in many respect. Most African Jamaicans are now proud of their Africanness.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Negro's Greatest Enemy

I had to decide whether to please my friends and be one of the &quot;black- whites&quot; of Jamaica, and be reasonably prosperous, or come out openly and defend and help improve and protect the integrity of the black millions and suffer. I decided to do the latter,
hence my offence against &quot;colored-black-white&quot; society in the colonies and America. I was openly hated and persecuted by some of these colored men of the island who did not want to be classified as negroes, but as white.</div></div>

The same thing continues today, whenever a African stands up for Africa and Africans he or she is immediately label and derided as - An angry malcontent.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Being black, I have committed an unpardonable offense against the very light colored negroes in America and the West Indies by making myself famous as a negro leader of millions. In their view, no black man must rise above them, but I still forge ahead determined to give to the world the truth about the new negro who is determined to make and hold for himself a place in the
affairs of men. The Universal Negro Improvement Association has been misrepresented by my enemies. They have tried to make it appear that we are hostile to other races. This is absolutely false. We love all humanity. We are working for the peace of the world which we believe can only come about when all races are given their due. </div></div>

If you working to uplift black people, white people and many ignorant black will label you a racist, it still happens today - Affirmative Action or Reparations are cases in point.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We feel that there is absolutely no reason why there should be any differences between the black and white races, if each stop to adjust and steady itself. We believe in the purity of both races. We do not believe the black man should be encouraged in the idea that his highest purpose in life is to marry a white woman, but we do believe that the white man should be taught to respect the black woman in the same way as he wants the black man to respect the white woman. It is a vicious and dangerous doctrine of social equality to urge, as certain colored leaders do, that black and white should get together, for that would destroy the racial purity of both. </div></div>

I dont believe in the purity of any race.

[blugiant]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was a black man and therefore had absolutely no right to lead; in the opinion of the &quot;colored&quot; element, leadership should have been in the hands of a yellow or a very light man. On such flimsy prejudices our race has been retarded. There is more bitterness among us negroes because of the caste of color than there is between any other peoples</div></div>

This is true and the main reason is racism or in this case colorism. It continues to this day because of a lack of culture and the legacies of colonialism.
Using sex as a weapon the white man has left us with a group of Africans with divided loyalties and the hope of bridging that divide
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nyam aalf leff alf sintinn. yu eva wander dem elitist lite skinned miseducated blakk luv brown paypah bagg ting

iss itt reallee bout divided loyalty ar sum lite skinned blakk creatinn a caste system based pon color? wan aff de reason y garvey bunn soo much fiyah pon de national association for de advancement of color people wass wen imm saw dat awl de naacp peeps in leadership position were lite skinned ann oww &quot;color&quot; was being used. naacp wass bout puttinn blakk peeps under de leadership aff lite skinned color peep. dubois wass a mulatoo woo solution to blakk problem wass de talented tenth, de buildinn upp aff de lite skinned caste that wood divide blakks. dat y garvey neva ovatand color politrixx inn jamaica untill aftar imm spend sum thyme inn merikka. itt wen garvey saw de color game imm started fe chatt bout racial pride fe build upp blakk peeps esteem ann y lite skinned blakk canspired fe gitt ridd aff garvey


look upp &quot;blue vein society&quot; dat garvey chatt bout ann awlso look upp de &quot;colonial club.&quot; imagine color peeps soo lite dat yu caan see dem vein ann dat supposed fe meen dat dem fe set de communitee tandard fe deceived dark skinned blakks

[jah_yout]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is more bitterness among us negroes because of the caste of color than there is between any other peoples</div></div>

the south asians/ indians rival us in that department...or perhaps now surpass us;

their colorism is intense...you will very rarely see a dark-skinned actress inna bollyweird

[blugiant]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is more bitterness among us negroes because of the caste of color than there is between any other peoples</div></div>

the south asians/ indians rival us in that department...or perhaps now surpass us;

their colorism is intense...you will very rarely see a dark-skinned actress inna bollyweird </div></div>

garvey focus pon colorism among blakks wey lite skin blakks create a caste system dat favor lita skinned blakks ann itt led to a system wey dark skinned blakks add fe defend lite skinned blakks ann inn dat way dark skinned blakk defened de colorism

yu reminded mii aff garvey challenginn oyinbo ann de naacp cah inn moas stores ann bizz woo hire lite skin blakks at de xxpense aff dark skinn blakks. dat y mii find intarestinn dat sum blakk tink garvey wood ave apposed affirmative action

[blugiant]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really never knew there was so much color prejudice in Jamaica, my own native home, until I started the work of the Universal Negro Improvement Association....The daily papers wrote me up with big headlines and told of my movement. But nobody wanted to be a negro. &quot;Garvey is crazy; he has lost his head,&quot; &quot;Is that the use he is going to make of his experience and intelligence?&quot; - such were the criticisms passed upon me. Men and women as black as I, and even more so, had
believed themselves white under the West Indian order of societal. I was simply an impossible man to use openly the term &quot;negro;&quot; yet every one beneath his breath was calling the black man a negro</div></div>

That was True.
Garveyism and Rasta has changed that in many respect. Most African Jamaicans are now proud of their Africanness.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Negro's Greatest Enemy

I had to decide whether to please my friends and be one of the &quot;black- whites&quot; of Jamaica, and be reasonably prosperous, or come out openly and defend and help improve and protect the integrity of the black millions and suffer. I decided to do the latter,
hence my offence against &quot;colored-black-white&quot; society in the colonies and America. I was openly hated and persecuted by some of these colored men of the island who did not want to be classified as negroes, but as white.</div></div>

The same thing continues today, whenever a African stands up for Africa and Africans he or she is immediately label and derided as - An angry malcontent.



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wan aff garvey greatest cantreebuteshan iss wen chatt bout oww blakks shood be proud aff dem skin ann blakks shood studee african histaree. still, wii cyaan figgit dat garvey use fe bunn fiyah pon skin bleachinn products ann dem bleachinn products still doinn bigg bizz inn ja ann inn blakk countrees rund de wurld. dat itt raises qwestian iff blakk peeps ar reallee proud aff dem afrikkanness

squeaky wheel gitt da grease. powa canseed nuttinn widdout demand

[blugiant]

Re: garvey versus mulatoo establishment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We feel that there is absolutely no reason why there should be any differences between the black and white races, if each stop to adjust and steady itself. We believe in the purity of both races. We do not believe the black man should be encouraged in the idea that his highest purpose in life is to marry a white woman, but we do believe that the white man should be taught to respect the black woman in the same way as he wants the black man to respect the white woman. It is a vicious and dangerous doctrine of social equality to urge, as certain colored leaders do, that black and white should get together, for that would destroy the racial purity of both. </div></div>

I dont believe in the purity of any race. </div></div>

garvey to mii used racial purity as way raise blakk peeps pride inn dem race ann skin. dat to mii iss daffarant dan oww oyinbo uses use de concept aff racial puritee fe push oyinbo supremacee. racial puritee to garvey wass natt bout blakk supremacee butt a way fe push imm race furst fillossoopee. itt like wen garvey met widd de kkk ann sed dat imm apposed miscegenation ann dat imm goal wass compatible widd dem cah garvey felt blakks needed fe fallaw dem own destinee to develop sufficent racial pride to upliff demselvess. dat disturb de mixxed race dubois soo much dat imm label garvey de moas dangerous negro inn de wurld.

diss iss wan aff de tings dat sum aff garvey supporters dissagree widd imm pon cah deep dunn dem feel race mixxinn a natural ting. garvey felt dat miscegenation wass bout blakk peeps wey neva proud aff dem skin. yu eva read annee aff dem cantentious tredds wey mii bunn fiyah pon interracial marriage usinn garvey argument bout oww itt is racial suicide ann create division among blakks. realitee iss dat garvey wass rite bout oww itt create division among blakks ann itt awlso create a caste system among blakks wear lita skinned blakks feel a sense aff entitlement based pon dem avinn lita skins.