Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 05:14 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">By 2012 China had become the second largest foreign investor in Uganda </span>after Britain. It is the major investor in the oil resources of South Sudan. In July 2007, the China oil company CNOOC signed an agreement with the Somali government to search for oil in the Mudug region where some estimate that reserves could amount to five to ten billion barrels of oil.[21] The Chinese investments in this part of Africa also include the joint venture which CNOOC signed with Tullow Oil in 2011 for the Ugandan fields. [22]

What is clear is that “Kony2012” is not documentary fact but manipulative propaganda, which is being used to advance an AFRICOM military presence in the richest mineral region in the world before China and perhaps India and Russia preempt it. It hearkens back to the colonial resource wars of the 19th century, with the only difference being the presence of the Internet and YouTube to propagandize it at warp speed.

http://www.infowars.com/a-major-africom-...central-africa/ </div></div>

wat amazes me about u is dat u now condone imperialism by the Chinese..this from a one who is supposedly so pro Africa liberation....i realise dat most of ur postings r eida due to age or just to be contrary..wich is it..i recognise the contrary bit miself being prone to it wen in dat mood????? </div></div>

you really amaze me, but i will try to remain calm...

please show me where it states that i support chinese imperialism in africa....

i know i have to be better at not being rude, but sometimes stuff like this is just too much to take...

for the record i do not support chinese nor US imperialism in africa...

even if the chinese have a far better record in dealing with africa than "the west" --america & europe;

you still can not show where i have ever condoned imperialism of afrika...

check this video out if you have time

<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/TPXS0OZikzs"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/TPXS0OZikzs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 05:16 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">btw, was Idi Amin also a victim of vicious propaganda???? </div></div>

what does amin have to do with this discussion?

amin was propped up by the british who put him in power

**Gen** · 04-27-2012, 05:16 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

nothing new that oil is there.

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 05:18 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you really quoting Alex Jones as a definitive source? </div></div>

i'm waiting for your laughter on the second article...

it's my imagination then...china is not in uganda or africa...

yea they're making this stuff up;

by the way alex jones can tell truth sometimes too...

at least he is objective...i prefer that to a one who thinks obama can do no wrong

**RichD** · 04-27-2012, 05:18 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

so in your view the best and the brightest get together to talk about how to counter the china advance into Africa and they come up with 100 troops under cover of going after some rebel leader?

**RichD** · 04-27-2012, 05:19 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you really quoting Alex Jones as a definitive source? </div></div>

i'm waiting for your laughter on the second article...

it's my imagination then...china is not in uganda or africa...

yea they're making this stuff up;

by the way alex jones can tell truth sometimes too...

at least he is objective...i prefer that to a one who thinks obama can do no wrong </div></div>

I will take you tact ...show me where i have said Obama can do no wrong? or are you basing it on your mind reading ability?

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 05:21 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">did you knwo that the US sent a similar delegation of troops to Uganda in 2008 -2009?</div></div>

yes -- all in a day's work to continue to prop up their <span style="text-decoration: line-through">boy</span> dictator museveni

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the reality is the reason for sending the troops is <span style="font-weight: bold">probably</span> neither what you said or what the government publicly claims..... </div></div>

or it probabaly could be

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the reason is much more nuanced. there does not have to be some great conspiracy ..it could be as simple as trying to do something small to satisfy a influential lobby group(or a election promise). so make a move that is not really meaningful but don't do nothing. </div></div>

that sounds sweet except for a little thing called AFRICOM...and OIL

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think that is much more likely than the great exploit the motherland before china conspiracy</div></div>

come on now...you know how this works...
tief neva love fi si man wid long bag....
just as was with the old soviet union, superpowers fight wars by proxy & to keep an eye or a check on each other...

<span style="font-weight: bold">no stranger comes to my house with guns just because they love me</span> </div></div>

an if the stranger comes wid money, is it due to love... ...usually a stranger offering money want someting in exchange too... </div></div>

of course...

why you think the ras defend marcus garvey vision of a strong afrika...

everyone will come to afrika to come rip & rape...because it is weak;
garvey a tell dem from 19-how-long;
him seh rise you mighty people

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 05:24 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you really quoting Alex Jones as a definitive source? </div></div>

i'm waiting for your laughter on the second article...

it's my imagination then...china is not in uganda or africa...

yea they're making this stuff up;

by the way alex jones can tell truth sometimes too...

at least he is objective...i prefer that to a one who thinks obama can do no wrong </div></div>

I will take you tact ...show me where i have said Obama can do no wrong? or are you basing it on your mind reading ability? </div></div>

no never seen you say that...
so that "a one" can not apply to you...yea seet deh

**Gen** · 04-27-2012, 05:27 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

China is now the Uganda's main source of foreign direct investments, accounting for least 30% of a total of $1.4 billion received in 2011, according to the state-run Uganda Investment Authority.

More Chinese companies are eying opportunities in the country's construction, agriculture, and oil and gas sectors. In February, China's state-owned CNOOC Ltd. (CEO) completed a joint venture deal with U.K.'s Tullow Oil PLC (>> Tullow Oil plc) and French oil company Total SA (TOT) to develop the country's oil fields in at least three blocks in the Lake Albertine Rift basin. Under the deal, CNOOC will operate the Kingfisher oil discovery and the Kanywataba prospect, located at the Southern tip of Uganda's Lake Albert.

here

**RichD** · 04-27-2012, 05:27 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so that "a one" can not apply to you...yea seet deh</div></div>

.so when yuh said this is not me yuh was talkin bout?

yuh fi come betta dan dat man...stan for what yuh a sey

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

is this the guy that accepts every thing obama does without question?

f(ok scratch that- obama is incapable of lying in your view)..

will you at least admit that governments <span style="font-style: italic">have lied </span>in the past? </div></div>

**Gen** · 04-27-2012, 05:53 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<span style="font-style: italic">long article</span>

<span style="font-size: 14pt">China's economic invasion of Africa</span>

A million Chinese people, from engineers to chefs, have moved to work in Africa in the past decade. How has the trade boom changed their lives?

In December 1999, a 24-year-old Chinese man called Zhang Hao left behind the freezing winter of his native Shenyang city to fly to Uganda. Zhang was nervous. He spoke no English. The journey was not even his idea, but that of his father, who had worked in Uganda a few years before on a fishing project involving the Chinese government.

<span style="font-weight: bold">"If you want to start something – and be the boss – Africa is the place to do it," Zhang's father had told him when he asked for business advice.</span>

Zhang had quit university to travel to east Africa, but he did not need a degree to spot easy money-making opportunities as soon as he set foot in Kampala: goods that were available cheaply in every city in China were either expensive here, or unavailable. He started by importing shoes. Then schoolbags. Then fishing nets, nails and bicycles.

"I imported everything. At that time they needed everything!" recalls Zhang, an affable man with rimless glasses.

His business grew quickly; he made money and local friends. But after a few years he grew weary of the long buying trips to China. So he and his wife bought a large plot of land in Kampala. On it they constructed a spectacular Chinese-Korean restaurant, with private dining areas, karaoke rooms and a giant 500-seat dining hall. To the side of the restaurant they built a bedroom, which became their home. The business prospered, and soon he started additional enterprises including a bakery, a firm selling flat-screen televisions and a security company.

"Chinese don't think, they just try without studying the market too much. Otherwise, the chance is gone," he says.

At the site of each new enterprise, Zhang built a room for his family – he had a son in 2007 – to sleep in. They literally live at work.

It has paid off.<span style="font-weight: bold"> Zhang says he is now the biggest Chinese employer in the country, with 1,200 local staff. He has even been offered a Ugandan passport, but has refused, just as he has declined to take an English first name.</span>

"<span style="font-weight: bold">I am Chinese, and we need to build a Chinese name here – to let people know that our country is not like before. We are richer, catching up the world."</span>

rest here

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 08:06 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so that "a one" can not apply to you...yea seet deh</div></div>

.so when yuh said this is not me yuh was talkin bout?

yuh fi come betta dan dat man...stan for what yuh a sey

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

is this the guy that accepts every thing obama does without question?

f(ok scratch that- obama is incapable of lying in your view)..

will you at least admit that governments <span style="font-style: italic">have lied </span>in the past? </div></div>
</div></div>

It was a sarcastic comment... I agreed that I can't recall ever seeing you say Obama can do no wrong... Have you run out of responses regarding the plausibility of the argument that US troops could be in Uganda to look about more than Joseph Kony?

**jah_yout** · 04-27-2012, 08:10 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unsupported speculation.

what is china using to exert influence i the area?

</div></div>

I think that question has been answered.. Unless yaw run from it

**RichD** · 04-27-2012, 10:26 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[. Have you run out of responses regarding the plausibility of the argument that US troops could be in Uganda to look about more than Joseph Kony? </div></div>

or there to do nothing at all other than just to provide symbolic support.

my speculation is as supported as yours.

**RichD** · 04-27-2012, 10:31 PM

Re: Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unsupported speculation.

what is china using to exert influence i the area?

</div></div>

I think that question has been answered.. Unless yaw run from it </div></div>

the whole poit of my question was to measure the suitability of the response(by the US) ...so china is using finance to gain influence in Africa...would it not be much easier and less obvious for the US to respond in kind?

Even if they did not think if this i hardly see 100 troops a significant response.

you bring up AFRICOM...how many troops do they have in that command?

If they were effective why would there be any concern about the influence of China in the area?

Ugandans upset re viral video against rebel leader

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

ads