"Marley"

[R_C]

Overall, it is a documentary well worth seeing.

Historical footage is a gift. I especially liked those of the One Love Peace Concert when MM and ES were shamed into coming on stage with Bob.

Interviews with members of the ‘Marley and Plant’ construction family in JA whose father/uncle Bob had gone to one day for help were very interesting. As was the back story about his visit to the clinic in Germany. Was not aware of that amount of detail before.

Did not get enough Peter Tosh or Joe Higgs.

Cindy had more screen time than I expected. Her statement that she didn’t know he was married (at least 10 years when they met, and, already had three children together) was not credible IMHO.

Would have liked to have heard more from the kids. Cedella seems to have had a lot more to say. Seemed angry. Was it edited out? I don’t know.

Rita was regal. There was pain when asked about Bob and the other women but she took the high ground. Unlike his lawyer who was offensive IMHO, saying that Rita did not “own” Bob.

If you knew nothing about Jamaica before seeing this movie you would not have come away from seeing it knowing that much more. As is the custom when others tell our stories for us, too much of the rest of it was drawn in broad stereotypes and caricatures.

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cindy had more screen time than I expected. Her statement that she didn’t know he was married (at least 10 years when they met, and, already had three children together) was not credible IMHO.

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We've been discussing this and I heard that it was in the documentary. I mentionned this and was shot down by other boardites who were around at the time who said there is no way she didn't know he was married. I was her only defender for a while there based soley on her own statements but I was convinced by the powerful reasoning of other boardites that this was not credible. What is weird is that she is STILL saying that to this day. My gosh she is a grown woman with grown kids. No need to keep up the pretense. This is ancient history and she has gone on to make a life for herself. The sons are doing well. The daughter seems a bit confused but I'm sure she'll be alright.

I am interested in hearing about Bob Marley's half sister, Constance Marley. I hear they caught up with her and she is interviewed in the film. Tell us about her. What did she say? I read Bob Marley was upset when Rita told him she had met her. In view of that, it's hard to understand why he went on to have so many kids for different women.

[R_C]

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Well as you might know, she may never have met him personally but I am not sure about that. She was not on camera for very long and looks nothing like him (her mother was black too). Did not reveal much about her own feelings except when the director gave her an Ipod to listen to one of Bob’s more obscure songs (“Corner Stone”) and she readily agreed (apparently the first time for her) that it was written about her family’s rejection of Bob when he went to them for financial assistance (he needed money to buy a car to distribute records). Overall I would say that she seemed uncomfortable with the whole thing though she acknowledged that the name Marley was now famous, not because of her family’s construction business, but because of her half-brother’s successes. Not so much his cousin Peter Marley who seemed more bemused than anything else. In fact I would say the two of them seemed rather disengaged from the split in the family …or so they may have wanted us to think at any rate.

IMHO

[Tropicana]

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How is Peter related to Bob? Apparently one of Bob's daughters is now close to her aunt? Is the Marley family still active in the Jamaican construction industry? Has there been any backlash to them because of the way they treated Bob and his mother?

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How is Peter related to Bob? Apparently one of Bob's daughters is now close to her aunt? Is the Marley family still active in the Jamaican construction industry? Has there been any backlash to them because of the way they treated Bob and his mother? </div></div>

if u mean di family whe neva count him , who cares..if u mean di family whe Bob mek, none a dem live a yaad...n no, my girl is a Marley by adoption...Rita ongle had three kids fi Bob..di ress is not his

oh figet fi ansa u odda ?...Auntie Pearl , Bob half sista is Bunny half sista...Bunny fada did deh wid Madda Cedella n Bob n Bunny grow in di said home at the time...Peter met dem but not related to dem

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

dem look alike dont..u would tink dem was related...dis was at the homegoing for Bob... </div></div>

Is the lady on the left Bob's sister? She resembles Bob's mother. I guess Norval had a consistent taste in women.

[Tropicana]

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Great photos Evanovitch. Thank you for sharing. When were they taken?

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great photos Evanovitch. Thank you for sharing. When were they taken? </div></div>

over the years...the one wid the mother, wife n son is at his funeral...Mother Cedella n me in Miami in the 90s...Rita n Judy on a tour we did in Japan in the mid 90s..i got Marcia by herself but have them all together on stage, bout di place etc...Cindy in Jamaica late 90s....Junior Gong was juss bubbling n i was tawking with her to a view to interview for a magazine Oceana out of Paris, i contributed Reggae/Yaad runnings to...i even have an interview wid Sinbad from bak in the days of Jazz fesivals...sigh...think i was down fi eida Sumfest or Sashi or Sting...ole age...i have younger ones of her and Bob from the London days wen she was Miss World n he was busting out ...need to save dem as dem under dem plastic photo albums of di dat time......

[R_C]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How is Peter related to Bob? Apparently one of Bob's daughters is now close to her aunt? Is the Marley family still active in the Jamaican construction industry? Has there been any backlash to them because of the way they treated Bob and his mother? </div></div>

Peter is Constance's cousin so would that be his second cousin ? Not sure. Peter is one of Noel Marley's grandsons I believe. Noel Marley is the founder of Marley and Plant and Norval's (Bob's father) brother. I think they still operate out of Old Harbor but I am not sure. Not aware of any backlash.

[Tropicana]

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Well you clearly have had a long and very successful career. Can we look forward to a book with lots of photos? I am sure it would fly off the shelves. I would buy it.

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well you clearly have had a long and very successful career. Can we look forward to a book with lots of photos? I am sure it would fly off the shelves. I would buy it. </div></div>

i have thought about it..but i doubt i would get the releases from people...fi real...i do regret not keeping journals..fi real...tings like dat....i neva know i was around people who were going to transcend our 144 sq miles...i was juss vibing wid people i was drawn to n defying rules....maybe dat is y mi so ornery...mi neva bend to anyting in life or toe any line.........

[Tropicana]

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Great to hear that about Jacob Miller. Inner Circle was the first reggae band I ever saw. They came and performed in Canada. Jacob MIller was with them and he had fabulous energy. Going to that show was one of the turning points of my life. I was supposed to go but, at the last minute, I almost didn't go as it turned out I had to do something very early the next morning. My friend and cousin talked me into just going and having a quick look. I ended up staying. I had never been to a reggae dance or party. I had a great time but I often wondered how my life would have been different if I had stuck with my decision not to go. It was one of those turning points.

Did you ever meet Johnnie Clarke? He was one of the first reggae artitsts I got to know and love. Still love him.

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great to hear that about Jacob Miller. Inner Circle was the first reggae band I ever saw. They came and performed in Canada. Jacob MIller was with them and he had fabulous energy. Going to that show was one of the turning points of my life. I was supposed to go but, at the last minute, I almost didn't go as it turned out I had to do something very early the next morning. My friend and cousin talked me into just going and having a quick look. I ended up staying. I had never been to a reggae dance or party. I had a great time but I often wondered how my life would have been different if I had stuck with my decision not to go. It was one of those turning points.

Did you ever meet Johnnie Clarke? He was one of the first reggae artitsts I got to know and love. Still love him. </div></div>

i know him but i dont know him...i know his music more dan i know him....

[Tropicana]

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Well I hope that we will see that book. It can be your project after you retire.