Toronto Eaton Centre shooting kills 1, injures 7

[Nunya]

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For the police, black is synonymous with Jamaican. They will find a connection and if there isn't one, they will make one.

[sagal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For the police, <span style="font-weight: bold">black is synonymous with Jamaican. They will find a connection and if there isn't one, they will make one</span>. </div></div>

On my way to work today, I overheard two Black women commenting on the suspect and stating that they were relieved that he wasn't Jamaican. What is there to celebrate. Afterall, he is Black and what affects one of us regardless of your culture background affects all of us, especially in relation to your statement

Senseless black on black crime....both targets were also Black male

[Nunya]

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They weren't celebrating. They were just relieved. 'tis ok though, you wouldn't understand...

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the victim



Ahmed Hassan </div></div>


somali?

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the victim



Ahmed Hassan </div></div>


somali? </div></div>

i think so

[mountaingal]

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jah yout, yes, he's somali. figured that from i heard his name, and before i saw pix.

[RichD]

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As police revealed the downtown Toronto shooting that left one dead and seven injured were believed to have been targeted attacks, records revealed the late victim in the Toronto Eaton Centre shooting was facing charges of cocaine trafficking, obstructing a police officer and possession of stolen goods in Fort McMurray, Alta., at the time of his death.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Somali-Canadian </span>Ahmed Hassan, 24, had failed to appear in court to face the charges, and had two warrants for his arrest issued at the time of his death, according to CBC Edmonton.

Mr. Hassan is the latest in a string of violent deaths for the local Somali community, which has suffered gang-related bloodshed in northern Alberta for years.

According to a member of the community who did not wish to be named, Mr. Hassan had a father in Edmonton who moved away when the violence became too extreme. According to the CBC, Mr. Hassan was supposed to be living with his parents in the capital city under the conditions of his bail from earlier charges of robbery, unlawful confinement and assault.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accompanied by his lawyer, the suspect, Christopher Husbands, 23, turned himself in at downtown’s 52 Division early Monday, at about 2:30 a.m.

News of his arrest capped an edgy 36 hours in Toronto after a gunman opened fire in the mall’s crowded food court, early Saturday evening. One man, Ahmed Hassan, 24, was killed and six others hit by bullets.

A 13-year-old victim of the weekend shooting rampage was in a coma in critical condition Monday after surgery for a gunshot wound to his head, a relative said.

Mr. Husbands and Mr. Hassan were meeting at the food court to discuss “turf arrangement” but matters got out of hand and shots were fired, a source said.

Mr. Hassan, is suspected of having gang affiliations. A man with a similar name is facing robbery, assault and unlawful confinement charges in Fort McMurray, Alta.

Mr. Hassan’s mother lives in Alexandra Park, a small social-housing project just west of Toronto’s downtown, a source said.

Adam Vaughan, the Toronto city councillors whose ward includes Alexandra Park, said the Eaton Centre shooting wasn’t an isolated incident.

“I wish that were true,” he said. “You can’t point to a date on a calendar or an event on a rap sheet and say that’s what caused this. It is part of an intensifying rivalry that defies geographic description in the same way it defies racial description,” he said.

Mr. Vaughan said the Eaton Centre shooting followed about three months of escalating violence involving youths from Alexandra Park and Regent Park, the city’s largest public-housing complex, located east of downtown.

But he stressed that the traditional lines separating gangsters in the two neighbourhoods have blurred, especially since the massive revitalization of Regent Park scattered families from that neighbourhood to other social-housing projects.

The return of some recently released criminals convicted and imprisoned in connection with Toronto's summer of the gun in 2005 has exacerbated the troubles, he added.

“The old way of looking at the challenge we’re facing is to say it was Alex Park v. Regent Park, but it has evolved in recent years and changed dramatically,” he said. “The families live on both sides of Yonge Street … “I don’t know the rival groups can tell each other apart. When you hear of an incident, the networks overlap.”

There was a shooting in Alexandra Park about three hours before gunshots rang out at the Eaton Centre.

Mike Spicer said he heard gunshots and saw a man running east -- in the direction of the Eaton Centre -- while holding a gun. The man was running toward Spadina on a street several blocks south of College Street, Mr. Spicer said.

“We heard three shots fired, and we just said, ‘Oh, it sounds like a gun,’” he said. “And all three of us looked that were in the car and there was a guy running down the street toward us with a gun.”

He said the man was holding a handgun in his right hand as he ran. He described him as black and said he was wearing a grey hoodie and loose-fitting black jeans.

Police have so far declined to comment on reports of the Spadina-area shooting.

Mr. Vaughan said it’s not clear how, or if, the two incidents are related. “For a while it looked like the two were directly connected, but they are part of the same issue we’ve been managing, or trying to manage, without any resources,” he said. “But it’s unclear now how intricately the two are related.”

Mr. Husbands is scheduled to appear at Old City Hall courthouse this afternoon.

On Sunday, acting deputy police chief Jeff McGuire had described the suspect as “one idiot with a gun.”

A 28-year-old pregnant woman went into labour after she was trampled as a frenzied stampede of shoppers tried to exit the mall. She didn’t give birth and recovered Sunday.

The terrifying incident follows a rise in the number of shootings in Toronto this year, after years of decline.

It also resonated in Toronto because of the Boxing Day 2005 shooting, when 15-year-old Jane Creba died a few blocks from the Eaton Centre after being struck by a stray bullet from a gang-related shootout. </div></div>



this stood out

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mr. Hassan, is suspected of having gang affiliations. <span style="font-weight: bold">A man with a similar name </span>is facing robbery, assault and unlawful confinement charges in Fort McMurray, Alta.</div></div>

there must be 1 billion people on earth with his name...

i don't know about canada but there seems to be a lot of animosity between somalis &amp; caribbean peeps...who the somali usually label as &quot;jamaicans&quot;

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
there must be 1 billion people on earth with his name...

</div></div>

he was living in ft mcmurry....ft mcmurray is a small town ..62,000 people

[mountaingal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
there must be 1 billion people on earth with his name...

</div></div>

he was living in ft mcmurry....ft mcmurray is a small town ..62,000 people </div></div>

...inna di alberta back bush...

[Fossil]

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This from a Somali blog:

<span style="font-weight: bold">
Re: Ahmad Hassan (Eaton Centre Victim) Pics + Information

Postby fighter » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:34 pm

We should be focusing our anger on the Jamaican who killed our Somali brother.
And I know he's Jamaican cause of his name. I've met Jamaicans with the weirdest names: Jealous, Innocence, Happy and now Husbands.

When will the government completely halt immigration from Jamaica and the other countries where most of its citizens are murderers and rapists?
</span>

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fossil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This from a Somali blog:

<span style="font-weight: bold">
Re: Ahmad Hassan (Eaton Centre Victim) Pics + Information

Postby fighter » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:34 pm

We should be focusing our anger on the Jamaican who killed our Somali brother.
And I know he's Jamaican cause of his name. I've met Jamaicans with the weirdest names: Jealous, Innocence, Happy and now Husbands.

When will the government completely halt immigration from Jamaica and the other countries where most of its citizens are murderers and rapists?
</span>
</div></div>


not surprised;

it usually amazes me to see the type of hatred and anger many somalis have toward jamaicans (who are all caribbean people to them) and to just black people in general...
they have some serious issues

[Suesumba]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fossil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This from a Somali blog:

<span style="font-weight: bold">
Re: Ahmad Hassan (Eaton Centre Victim) Pics + Information

Postby fighter » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:34 pm

We should be focusing our anger on the Jamaican who killed our Somali brother.
And I know he's Jamaican cause of his name. I've met Jamaicans with the weirdest names: Jealous, Innocence, Happy and now Husbands.

When will the government completely halt immigration from Jamaica and the other countries where most of its citizens are murderers and rapists?
</span>
</div></div>

see

[jah_yout]

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i remember when 2 somali girls got caught in jamaica trying to take some herb out of j-a;
the comments on youtube made me blush...
let's just say the somalis don't think too highly of us;

and by &quot;us&quot; i mean black people, especially &quot;jamaicans&quot;, i.e. caribbean/west-indians

[Gen]

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what is the beef really over ??? turf ???