Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan warzone

[mangoskin]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, according to the article its a lack of smart police... </div></div>

Yeah, isn't that rediculous? Don't police respond after a crime is permitted?
Police can't stop crime. People have such a misconception about police duty.

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ridiculous? but its an article you posted..
anyway, also definition of what constitutes a crime also matters, e.g. this 'stand your ground' business, what privileged well connected ppl can get away with, the poor, underprivileged no connection ppl rot in jail for.. </div></div>

mangoskin lonwolf iss wrang. tell imm fe goo look upp proactive ann reactive policing

yu ave police policees like racial profiling dat iss supposedlee based pon proactive policinn. proactive policinn iss de idea dat police can stop crimes before dem happen wild reactive policinn iss based pon de idea dat police respand aftah crime ave been committed. ear iss wear lonwolf miss de pint chi-town police iss usinn a computer based model aff crime prevention designed fe raciallee targitt blakk communitee cah dem onlee cancern widd certain type aff crime. targitt de blakk yuths woo commit violent crime butt ignore y gun iss soo avialable to blakk yuths </div></div>
I see what you mean, he looks at the stats but not at the reasons behind it

[jah_yout]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan warzone

<span style="font-weight: bold">Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war </span>has been for american servecemen...
fixed that for you

if you figure in the amount of dead afghans then it is not even close....

but of course chicago is not at war...at least not officially ..(then again afghanistan is not officially a war either...but people are still shooting &amp; dying);

obviously your intent for this piece was to show how dangerous and out of control the black inner-city populations are...and you are right;
they are dangerous and out of control...
but the part you probably don't see or probably deliberately ignore is that this is by design...there are segments that profit from our ignorance &amp; self-destructive mode, so there is no vested interest in stopping it...

yes even by the teeth-grinning guy in the white house...he is simply the face that is put out there but the system is stronger than him &amp; has been in place before he was even born

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Witchy, I was not calling you warped. I was making a point. Sorry, if it sounded that way.
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It did. And I don't believe you. You took far too long to bother to come with an apologetic clarification now; it's specious. I believe you to be a liar for saying it now. Too little, too late, and not in a believable manner, either. Nope. I'm not buying it. Nor, I'll wager, will anyone else. You aren't sorry in the least, lonrwolf. But that's all right, because I merely considered the source and moved on; your opinion of me is entirely irrelevant to me.

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan warzone

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war </span>has been for american servecemen...
fixed that for you </div></div>
That's ^ more accurate.

[lonewolf]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mangoskin lonwolf iss wrang. tell imm fe goo look upp proactive ann reactive policing

yu ave police policees like racial profiling dat iss supposedlee based pon proactive policinn. proactive policinn iss de idea dat police can stop crimes before dem happen wild reactive policinn iss based pon de idea dat police respand aftah crime ave been committed. ear iss wear lonwolf miss de pint chi-town police iss usinn a computer based model aff crime prevention designed fe raciallee targitt blakk communitee cah dem onlee cancern widd certain type aff crime. targitt de blakk yuths woo commit violent crime butt ignore y gun iss soo avialable to blakk yuths
I see what you mean, he looks at the stats but not at the reasons behind it</div></div>


Guns are so readily available to black youth from burglaries and straw purchases. Please, tell me who is doing the burglaries and making the straw purchases? Again, police respond after the fact of the burglary or after straw purchase.
Police are always being reactive because without a crime they cannot react. Proactive equals racial profiling. Catch 22?

Reasons for the stats is crime. You are blaming everyone else except the ones responsible for the crime.

Here is a novel approach that I'm sure will be foreign to the thought process...personal responsibilty?

God forbid?

[jah_yout]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Proactive equals racial profiling</div></div>

that's what you, bloomberg &amp; kelly say...

so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;

bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books...


i wonder if your buddies in the just-us system would be OK with that....
oh i forgot-- they have brainwashed the world into thinking black youth are out of control criminals destroying the fabric of america &amp; the world from within...
useless propaganda, but readily swallowed up by a dumbed-down population incapable of too much critical thinking

[lonewolf]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It did. <span style="font-weight: bold">And I don't believe you. You took far too long to bother to come with an apologetic clarification now; it's specious. I believe you to be a liar for saying it now.</span> Too little, too late, and not in a believable manner, either. Nope. I'm not buying it. Nor, I'll wager, will anyone else. You aren't sorry in the least, lonrwolf. But that's all right, because I merely considered the source and moved on; your opinion of me is entirely irrelevant to me. </div></div>

I don't care if you believe me or not. Below is what I posted, you are seeing what you want to believe. I have not attacked you, but you have attacked me.

This is typical of the liberal thought process.
You are justifying murder with smoke and mirrors and attacking me for posting an article that's simply reporting current news. Facts and logic be damned.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The truth will set you free...anything else will warp your mind.</div></div>

...and Witchy, it's ok to be white, you can stop apologizing and pandering to the audience.

[lonewolf]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books... </div></div>

Yes! Absolutely! They are also getting away with murder. How many lives have they destroyed?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i wonder if your buddies in the just-us system would be OK with that.... </div></div>

Cute...do any of us have any buddies in the political system?..Oh, that's right, I forgot, Obama is the answer.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i forgot-- they have brainwashed the world into thinking black youth are out of control criminals destroying the fabric of america &amp; the world from within...
useless propaganda, but readily swallowed up by a dumbed-down population incapable of too much critical thinking </div></div>

Two words for you...body count.
Even a dumbed down population is capable of counting bodies, well maybe not by the evidence that I see posted.

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...and Witchy, it's ok to be white, you can stop apologizing and pandering to the audience. </div></div>
It had better be, because I <span style="font-style: italic">am</span> white, proud of myself, pander to none one - thank you very much, fool ... and have never, will never, and can never be made to apologize to anyone - for any reason whatsoever - for being born in the color skin I was born in. I have absolutely nothing for which to be ashamed nor apologetic regarding being white. I just happened to be born that way; it was the luck of the draw (good luck or bad, whatever) - no more and no less; but I had nothing at all to do with it.

And anybody who has a problem with the above ^ is SoL - literally - because it's nothing that can be changed. Yes, I'm white. TFB if smaddy doesn't like that.

And, for the record, every damn thing I just said above is also true of every other race. Mine has no special claim(s) over any other race(s). And anyone who doesn't like <span style="font-style: italic">that</span> statement can go soak their head in a flippin' toilet bowl, too, because it's just as true as every other statement I just made... like it or not.

So I don't need anyone's permission (least of all, yours, lonrwolf) to be me. Drop dead.
What a ridiculously condescending, sniveling, little piece of work you are! You're laughable!

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Cute...do any of us have any buddies in the political system?..Oh, that's right, I forgot, Obama is the answer. </div></div>
He said <span style="font-weight: bold">the justice system</span>, not <span style="font-weight: bold">the political system</span>.

Is your problem reading or reading comprehension or lack of understanding of the difference between the justice system and politics? ie - do you need literacy lessons, vocabulary lessons, or civics lessons?


Whichever, to answer your question anyhow... you asked, &quot;do [sic] any of us have any buddies in the political system?&quot;

I can't answer for anyone else on J'com, but <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span> <span style="font-style: italic">certainly do</span> have friends in politics - and I mean high up in federal level politics, not merely municipal level politics, in which I am involved.

And I'll almost <span style="text-decoration: underline">warrant</span> that I'm not the sole J'commer who can honestly say that ^, too, even if <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> can't, lonrwolf.

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;

bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books... </div></div>
Hey, wait, jah_yout... my family members resemble that remark!

Seriously, though, Madoff, et al, stole/steal from us just as much/quickly... we're middle class, too. Madoff didn't steal <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor people</span></span>'s money - <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor folks</span></span> didn't have any to give Madoff; he stole <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">middle class</span></span> money! Think about it.

[jah_yout]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books... </div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes! Absolutely! They are also getting away with murder. How many lives have they destroyed?</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i wonder if your buddies in the just-us system would be OK with that.... </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cute...do any of us have any buddies in the political system?..Oh, that's right, I forgot, Obama is the answer</div></div>

LOL...wrong guy; i am not an obama-bot

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i forgot-- they have brainwashed the world into thinking black youth are out of control criminals destroying the fabric of america &amp; the world from within...
useless propaganda, but readily swallowed up by a dumbed-down population incapable of too much critical thinking </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two words for you...body count.
Even a dumbed down population is capable of counting bodies, well maybe not by the evidence that I see posted. </div></div>

in that case a lot more profiling needs to be done...
if you go by body count, them far more bodies are piling up that were killed by whites than by blacks...

most of the wars &amp; military actions involving vast attacks using sophisticated military killing machines, nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, etc. have been majority white nations...

the &quot;black&quot; youth with guns would have to kill off the entire population of america and still wouldn't even be close to the number of &quot;white&quot; europeans killed in the great white tribal war called world wars 1 and 2....and continuing military actions around the globe

[jah_yout]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;

bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books... </div></div>
Hey, wait, jah_yout... my family members resemble that remark!

Seriously, though, Madoff, et al, stole/steal from us just as much/quickly... we're middle class, too. Madoff didn't steal <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor people</span></span>'s money - <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor folks</span></span> didn't have any to give Madoff; he stole <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">middle class</span></span> money! Think about it.
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&quot;middle class&quot; is the new poor

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so then we need to racially profile white guys in business suits because that's what all the guys who have been stealing the poor people's money look like;

bernie madoff, ben bernake, alan greenspan, etc.

we can save a lot of jobs and help people get a living if we only stop these guys at random and check out their books... </div></div>
Hey, wait, jah_yout... my family members resemble that remark!

Seriously, though, Madoff, et al, stole/steal from us just as much/quickly... we're middle class, too. Madoff didn't steal <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor people</span></span>'s money - <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">poor folks</span></span> didn't have any to give Madoff; he stole <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">middle class</span></span> money! Think about it.
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&quot;middle class&quot; is the new poor </div></div>A tru dat ^

[blugiant]

Re: Chicago murder rate worse than Afghanistan war

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mangoskin lonwolf iss wrang. tell imm fe goo look upp proactive ann reactive policing

yu ave police policees like racial profiling dat iss supposedlee based pon proactive policinn. proactive policinn iss de idea dat police can stop crimes before dem happen wild reactive policinn iss based pon de idea dat police respand aftah crime ave been committed. ear iss wear lonwolf miss de pint chi-town police iss usinn a computer based model aff crime prevention designed fe raciallee targitt blakk communitee cah dem onlee cancern widd certain type aff crime. targitt de blakk yuths woo commit violent crime butt ignore y gun iss soo avialable to blakk yuths
I see what you mean, he looks at the stats but not at the reasons behind it</div></div>


Guns are so readily available to black youth from burglaries and straw purchases. Please, tell me who is doing the burglaries and making the straw purchases? Again, police respond after the fact of the burglary or after straw purchase.
Police are always being reactive because without a crime they cannot react. Proactive equals racial profiling. Catch 22?

Reasons for the stats is crime. You are blaming everyone else except the ones responsible for the crime.

Here is a novel approach that I'm sure will be foreign to the thought process...personal responsibilty?

God forbid? </div></div>

yu kno oyinbo commit more burglarees ann more straw purchases aff guns

lonwolf yu tartinn fe ovatand a likkle betta soo mekk itt intarestinn ann cum widd betta argument. oyinbo proactive policinn iss racial profiling. yu sey ketch 22 mii sey institutional racism. doan sey policinn iss awlways about being reactive cah den mii will ask wat yu sey bouy nyc stop ann frisk wey police admit dat dem stapp ann frisk more blakk yuths dan de population aff blakk yuths inn nyc. stop ann frisk iss natt based pon reactive policinn cah stats show dat more dan 90 percent aff dem blakk ann latino yuths dat gitt stop ann frisk neva commit annee crime. ear iss de joke dat oyinbo racist tryinn fe defend wen de police stop ann frisk oyinbo yuths dem more likelee fe find guns ann jugs dan wen dem stap ann frisk blakk ann latino yuths ann dat accardinn to babylon stats. yet oyinbo chattinn bout dat oww dem reducinn blakk yuths murder rate even iff dem stat show dat stop ann frisk policees less effective dan addar policinn

reason fe stat iss oww oyinbo lie usinn stat fe justifii racism

personal responsible wat oyinbo meen bye dat? yu eva read dat studee wey canclude dat drinkinn soda cantreebute to aggressive behaviors inn yuths. since blakk yuths drink more sodas dan oyinbo yuths mii guess yu feel itt de blakk yuths fault woo jrink too much sodas cah aff personal respanseebilleetee

blakk ar oyinbo god yuh chattinn bout