US & UK force sterilization on Third World

[franksterr]

U.S. and British taxpayers are funding brutal forced sterilizations and a growing network of appalling “camps” in India through foreign-aid programs and even the World Bank, according to human rights activists and news reports. But as the scandal surrounding the controversial population-control campaign grows with an Indian Supreme Court investigation into the matter, governments are publicly distancing themselves from the program.

Citing dubious United Nations theories about “climate change,” population-reduction fanatics — especially in the West — have been working fiendishly around the world for decades to scale back the number of humans. Their methods include everything from promoting abortion and contraception to developing sterilization programs targeting poor women in particular. And the barbarity is largely being bankrolled by taxpayers and elite donors in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news...zation-in-india

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">U.S. and British taxpayers are funding brutal forced sterilizations and a growing network of appalling “camps” in India through foreign-aid programs and even the World Bank, according to human rights activists and news reports. But as the scandal surrounding the controversial population-control campaign grows with an Indian Supreme Court investigation into the matter, governments are publicly distancing themselves from the program.

Citing dubious United Nations theories about “climate change,” population-reduction fanatics — especially in the West — have been working fiendishly around the world for decades to scale back the number of humans. Their methods include everything from promoting abortion and contraception to developing sterilization programs targeting poor women in particular. And the barbarity is largely being bankrolled by taxpayers and elite donors in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news...zation-in-india

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People don't want to know about this.

[franksterr]

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True dat

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">True dat </div></div>

Jamaicans.<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">com</span></span>fortzone

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Their methods include everything from promoting abortion and contraception to developing sterilization programs targeting poor women in particular. And the barbarity is largely being bankrolled by taxpayers and elite donors in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
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Ok, let me see if I get this right. US and UK offering contraception to those that can't feed themselves much less another human being and this is considered barbaric?

I consider a starving mother and child barbaric. Teaching uneducated people that they can prevent an unwanted pregnancy is humane.

[franksterr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Their methods include everything from promoting abortion and contraception to developing sterilization programs targeting poor women in particular. And the barbarity is largely being bankrolled by taxpayers and elite donors in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
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Ok, let me see if I get this right. US and UK offering contraception to those that can't feed themselves much less another human being and this is considered barbaric?

I consider a starving mother and child barbaric. Teaching uneducated people that they can prevent an unwanted pregnancy is humane. </div></div>

No what is barbaric is forcibly sterilizing people or doing so through deceptive means, if you think that a starving child is barbaric then support fair trade.

[jamaica_dreamin]

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I am fine with people being offered birth control. Forcible sterilization is totally unacceptable.

[mangoskin]

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in the US they're going the other way - trying to outlaw abortions etc..

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Their methods include everything from promoting abortion and contraception to developing sterilization programs targeting poor women in particular. And the barbarity is largely being bankrolled by taxpayers and elite donors in the U.S. and the United Kingdom.
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Ok, let me see if I get this right. US and UK offering contraception to those that can't feed themselves much less another human being and this is considered barbaric?

I consider a starving mother and child barbaric. Teaching uneducated people that they can prevent an unwanted pregnancy is humane. </div></div> It's only barbaric when it's done by third world people. You are using the word inappropriately.

No what is barbaric is forcibly sterilizing people or doing so through deceptive means, if you think that a starving child is barbaric then support fair trade. </div></div>

[Wahalla]

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“All of them are forced,” Biswas was quoted as saying. <span style="color: #FF0000">“Generally, the people in the village are very simple. They are very poor. Some of them married at the age of 12 or 13. T</span>hey do not know what it means. They are told it will be good for them. They are not told it will make them permanently unable to bear children. No risks are explained to them.” </div></div>

I read that and wondered how they did a peice on force sterilisation in India and yet not mention the fact that as a consequence the congress party lost a election.

Yet Indians are not caplabl e enough to have done this without &quot;being forced by the UK and US to do a policy contary to their own good ???

They did this before and there was a policy of sterilisation in India since independence....

[Dr.Dudd]

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Wahalla, people especially in group setting may or may not think logically. But they certainly act on the basis of emotions customs and social norms. As a result changes are usually imposed on them by external factors. I have been privi to a di.ilst experiment carried out on Mico college make students being used in research by tge US Eugenics department operated out of s upstate new York College. The records still exist yet tge specimens still are not aware if they are still alive.

[WitchyOoman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am fine with people being offered birth control. Forcible sterilization is totally unacceptable. </div></div>
This ^

[WitchyOoman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mangoskin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">in the US they're going the other way - trying to outlaw abortions etc.. </div></div>
Abortion is not a form of birth control!

Two entirely separate things!

<span style="font-weight: bold">Birth control</span> is <span style="font-weight: bold">the prevention of pregnancy</span>.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Abortion</span> is <span style="font-weight: bold">the prevention of the birth of a baby after the mother got pregnant ..... a/k/a murder</span>.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Murder</span> is <span style="font-weight: bold">the killing, with premeditated malice, of another human life</span>.



I am sorry if this ^ sounds harsh or offends anyone, but it is the truth. Check any law dictionary for the definition of &quot;murder&quot;. Check any medical dictionary for the definition for &quot;birth control&quot; and for &quot;abortion&quot; (leave off the last word, 'murder' if you like) and you will see that I have provided accurate definitions. Put it all together and you will see why I stated it as baldly as I did. Again, I apologize if anyone took offense, that was not my intention.