Shocked at How Segregated & Stratified American Communities Still Are

[RichD]

tropicana..when last yuh go malton?

population: ~41,000
south asian ~18,000



and most of them live right round derry and airport rd

[blugiant]

Me thinks you fret to much. This is nothing more than tribal instinct. Those that look like one another, or are like minded ,have a tendancy to seek each other out. It is what we do, and it's normal behavior, regardless of what the supposed experts are trying to brainwash us into believing. We are nothing more than an advanced animal species. We maybe a little smarter, and walk on two legs, but that's about the only difference. Some folks want to make it more complicated than it really is...

mii sumwat agree widd yuh. mii more believe inn segregate but equal philossopee. too badd more oyinbo ave issue widd equalitee ann wat itt entail

[Peasie]

Since when was Peasie based in Canada. This is de firs' mi hearing bout dis.

I don't live in Toronto. I do visit often.

I drew the same conclusion you did when you visited Long Island ... except the part about being shocked

You conclusion is correct. So is mine.

[Tropicana]

There is no way that Rexdale is predominantly Black. I used to live in Etobicoke so I know. There are some housing complexes with a lot of Black families in that area. Markham has a lot of Chinese families but White folks are still in the majority. My son went to school in Markham and my church is still in Markham. When I refer to Toronto I mean GTA - 416 & 905 area codes.

If you use the term "toronto " to include the surrounding subbrrbs one coudl make the argument that East side of Brampton is predominantly South Asian and north Markham/Unionville is predominantly "Chinese". The area of Rexdale from dixon/islington - martingrove and north all the way to steels is predominantly black. the block from just west of isonlington over to kipling and north to the 401 is home to about 15,000 Somalis (that's where K'naan grew up)

Predominantly means:

1. Having greatest ascendancy, importance, influence, authority, or force.
2. Most common or conspicuous; main or prevalent:

It means the overwhelming majority of the people in a particular area are of a particular racial or ethnic group. While there are large concentrations of the various groups you are mentioning in various parts of the GTA, these groups are definitely not in the majority. I have posted demographic census data to prove this in the past and will not waste my time doing it again. The situation in the USA is vastly different from what we have in Canada.

[Tropicana]

I don't live in Toronto. I do visit often.

I drew the same conclusion you did when you visited Long Island ... except the part about being shocked

You conclusion is correct. So is mine.

Again not sure where you were in Toronto and the fact that you won't name the area means you don't want to be proven wrong.

[Tropicana]

tropicana..when last yuh go malton?

population: ~41,000
south asian ~18,000



and most of them live right round derry and airport rd

Nothing new. Lots of East Indians around Malton. Also a lot of Black families. Doesn't mean majority or predominately.

[Tropicana]

The thread stated is about segregation and we are discussing varying points of segregation; cultural difference are a reason people would choose to live with those of similar culture, food, religions, etc and access to such.

Once again this point had not been raised and makes no sense as a basis of segregation. I can understand language differences.

[Tropicana]

YOu know what, put this in onoo pipe and smoke it.

Toronto
Total - Ethnic origin	5,072,075	3,445,405	1,626,665
European origins	1,813,565	997,370	816,195
British Isles origins	1,331,485	336,280	995,205
Southern European origins	940,630	617,015	323,610
East and Southeast Asian origins	843,850	725,960	117,895
English	804,100	177,495	626,600
South Asian origins	713,630	589,850	123,780
Other North American origins	680,990	259,080	421,915
Canadian	651,635	255,075	396,560
Scottish	561,050	72,780	488,270
Chinese	537,060	462,460	74,600
Irish	531,865	64,425	467,435
Eastern European origins	500,570	222,665	277,905
East Indian	484,655	390,325	94,330
Italian	466,155	312,925	153,225
Western European origins	378,125	77,055	301,065
Caribbean origins	305,625	184,590	121,030
German	259,020	45,720	213,300
French origins	243,670	23,745	219,925
French	241,395	23,190	218,205
Polish	207,495	89,915	117,575
Portuguese	188,110	130,865	57,245
Filipino	181,330	136,495	44,830
African origins	160,450	102,365	58,085
Jamaican	160,210	103,650	56,550
Other European origins	149,605	70,470	79,130
Jewish	141,685	66,550	75,130
West Asian origins	129,390	100,145	29,245
Ukrainian	122,510	40,115	82,395

Source: Statistics Canada, 2006 Census of Population.
Last modified: 2009-08-14.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/demo27g-eng.htm

[Tropicana]

Ethnic Origin Statistics, 2006 Census

Top Ten Ethnic Origins in Peel (Single Response)

Single Responses	813,015	100.00%
East Indian	176,130	21.66%
Canadian	57,375	7.06%
Italian	56,285	6.92%
Chinese	50,995	6.27%
Portuguese	42,055	5.17%
Polish	36,095	4.44%
English	35,140	4.32%
Jamaican	35,075	4.31%
Filipino	32,875	4.04%
Pakistani	23,910	2.94%

Source: Statistics Canada, 2006 Census

Top Ten Ethnic Origins in Brampton (Single Response)

Single Responses	309,320	100.00%
East Indian	94,710	30.62%
Canadian	25,305	8.18%
Jamaican	21,550	6.97%
Italian	16,845	5.45%
Portuguese	16,185	5.23%
English	12,920	4.18%
Filipino	9,105	2.94%
Pakistani	7,120	2.30%
Chinese	7,095	2.29%
Punjabi	6,570	2.12%

Source: Statistics Canada, 2006 Census

[Tropicana]

Top Ten Ethnic Origins in Mississauga (Single Response)

Single Responses	472,490	100.00%
East Indian	80,625	17.06%
Chinese	43,675	9.24%
Polish	29,860	6.32%
Italian	29,085	6.16%
Canadian	27,445	5.81%
Portuguese	24,700	5.23%
Filipino	23,635	5.00%
English	18,765	3.97%
Pakistani	16,580	3.51%
Jamaican	13,250	2.80%

hnic Origins in Peel and the Area Municipalities (total responses)

Total population by ethnic origin	1,154,070	100.00%	431,575	100.00%
British Isles origins	261,215	22.63%	93,140	21.58%
French origins	50,050	4.34%	17,940	4.16%
Aboriginal origins	11,750	1.02%	5,365	1.24%
Other North American origins	145,660	12.62%	58,965	13.66%
Caribbean origins	91,825	7.96%	51,680	11.97%
Latin, Central and South American origins	23,190	2.01%	9,195	2.13%
European origins	369,690	32.03%	107,175	24.83%
African origins	34,950	3.03%	18,190	4.21%
Arab origins	28,850	2.50%	4,615	1.07%
West Asian origins	15,890	1.38%	4,330	1.00%
South Asian origins	282,875	24.51%	141,470	32.78%
East and Southeast Asian origins	136,480	11.83%	29,740	6.89%
Oceania origins	1,415	0.12%	440	0.10%

Source: Statistics Canada, 2006 Census

http://www.peelregion.ca/planning/pd...rigin-2006.htm

[Tropicana]

PDF with data for York Region:

http://www.york.ca/NR/rdonlyres/ise5cejxq5jdzvbrta3l7xh72erp3wplrle2x65elik6ntfojtfhkcsq3mqfz6sropjp5scwzsrzdshsbqfvobsxag/EthnicOriginFactSheet.pdf

Can't copy and paste it as it is a PDF.

Fi de las' time GTA communities are not segregated like communities in major USA centres.

Not going to waste any more time arguing about it.

What I would like to know is why Americans are so backward as to still have such largely segregated communities.

[Peasie]

Again not sure where you were in Toronto and the fact that you won't name the area means you don't want to be proven wrong.

You're right!
I'm wrong!

i'll say anything ... Just don't cut and paste anymore

[Peasie]

Oh. And when you get a chance, pull the same data for Long Island.

[Tropicana]

No time to waste. I am not American...leave that to the Americans. Long Island is composed of many communities. Some are predominantly White and others are predominantly Black. Data would have to be broken down by community. (e.g. Elmont vs Garden City...etc.)

[Tropicana]

For Bramale Gore Malton look at page 9:

http://www.peelregion.ca/health/resources/early-years-data/reports/pdfs/2009/b-gore/bramalea-gore-malton-springdale-riding.pdf

Visible minorities make up 67.3% of the population in that riding. Further breakdown:

- Jamaicans 6.9%
- East Indian 35.1% - they do not in any way shape or form represent the majority of people in that area.

So onoo fe stop tell lie.