Tina is no longer a yanki

[CeaBee]

So in order to get Swiss citizenship she had to legally renounce her American citizenship? or she did it for tax reasons

(gone to glimpse at article)


ETA: them seh that Swiss taxes high, so not likely did it for that reason.

[R_C]

YES.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facd6db8d7e37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

The principles embodied in the Oath are codified in Section 337(a) in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which provides that all applicants shall take an Oath that incorporates the substance of the following:

Support the Constitution;
Renounce and abjure absolutely and entirely all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which the applicant was before a subject or citizen;
Support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
Bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
A. Bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; or
B. Perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; or
C. Perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.

Taking an oath of "Allegiance and Fidelity" to the United States is not the same thing as "Renouncing Citizenship" in the country of your birth.

[RichD]

So in order to get Swiss citizenship she had to legally renounce her American citizenship? or she did it for tax reasons

(gone to glimpse at article)


ETA: them seh that Swiss taxes high, so not likely did it for that reason.

there is part of US citizenship law which states that if you take citizenship of another country by direct action (meanin if its not by birth or sumtin so you are deem to have given up your us citizenship.

a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

[CeaBee]

aah. tank u.

[j-kid]

Especially wen it com on tuh certain people, try violate those laws, in the USA, and see whe yuh end up. Yes, yuh hav di right tuh refuse, but it naa goh stop deh soh, smaddi will bi going tuh jail, or go broke fighting it. Yuh always hav di right tuh refuse, even refuse an, leave di USA, just don't try coming back after yuh finish.

is this the oath you took?
renounce is a legal process jus because yuh sey the word nuh mean yuh renounce anything.

[RichD]

Especially wen it com on tuh certain people, try violate those laws, in the USA, and see whe yuh end up. Yes, yuh hav di right tuh refuse, but it naa goh stop deh soh, smaddi will bi going tuh jail, or go broke fighting it.

not sure what you are talking about.

refuse what?

[CeaBee]

do they send naturalized Jamaicans back to Jamaica if they are convicted of a crime? (real question, not rhetorical..not that me planning nuh crime or nutten)

[Peasie]

do they send naturalized Jamaicans back to Jamaica if they are convicted of a crime? (real question, not rhetorical..not that me planning nuh crime or nutten)

[RichD]

do they send naturalized Jamaicans back to Jamaica if they are convicted of a crime? (real question, not rhetorical..not that me planning nuh crime or nutten)

my understanding is that the only way dem can do that is if dem can make a case that the naturalization was gotten under false pretense ..like yuh never fill out the for correctly or some incorrect information on the application.

den dem cant tek it wey and sen yuh home

Section 340(a) provides two distinct legal bases for denaturalization or revocation of citizenship. The first permits the INS to seek revocation if the naturalized person has procured citizenship illegally. "[T]here must be strict compliance with all the congressionally imposed prerequisites to the acquisition of citizenship. Failure to comply with any of these conditions renders the certificate of citizenship 'illegally procured,' and naturalization that is unlawfully procured can be set aside." Fedorenko v. United States, 449 U.S. 490, 506 (1981).
Second, revocation is available if the person procured naturalization "by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation." INA § 340(a), 8 U.S.C. § 1451 (a). ⁽³⁾ Denaturalization on this basis "plainly contains four independent requirements: the naturalized citizen must have misrepresented or concealed some fact, the misrepresentation or concealment must have been willful, the fact must have been material, and the naturalized citizen must have procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment.

[j-kid]

Refuse to abide by di legal content of di oath yuh took. Such as, fight for the USA, etc if called to do so.

not sure what you are talking about.

refuse what?

[j-kid]

Dem can also duh dat in di case of treason, after serving prison time, assuming dem noh put yuh tuh death.

do they send naturalized Jamaicans back to Jamaica if they are convicted of a crime? (real question, not rhetorical..not that me planning nuh crime or nutten)

[RichD]

Refuse to abide by di legal content of di oath yuh took. Such as, fight for the USA, etc if called to do so.

ok an that is reasonable ..but really have nuttin to do wid renounciation of any other citizenship.

an you know that does not mean you cannot go join Jamaica army too (only problem would be if yuh a fight against the US)

[j-kid]

Again, not oficially without premission from the State Department. If you do, don't bother trying to come back, if they find out.
Yuh missing di point dat yuh now hav serious commitment tuh di USA.

ok an that is reasonable ..but really have nuttin to do wid renounciation of any other citizenship.

an you know that does not mean you cannot go join Jamaica army too (only problem would be if yuh a fight against the US)

[RichD]

Again, not oficially without premission from the State Department. If you do, don't bother trying to come back, if they find out.

what is the process for obtaining this permission?

[j-kid]

Yuh would make an official request tuh di state department to bear arms for another country. Unless you don't mind being added to a watch list, and possibly locked out of the country.