Third World

[kia027]

1. I suggest you make your point without being sarcastic.

2. My POV on this is not going to change. I see it differently and I am not interested in debating it.

I was not being sarcastic I was being direct and to the point. Hush the debate not going your way so we know it you done wid ie now.

[Tropicana]

This has nothing to do with a discussion not going my way. Read my lips. I was not raised in Jamaica. I did not drink the Koolaid. I do not buy into Jamaican definitions of race. I think they are seriously flawed. I am not the only one who feels this way. At university in the USA, I remember the constant differences between Jamaicans and African Americans on this point. My POV is closer to the African American. You are not going to convince me otherwise.

There is no point in further debating the issue and I said quite early in the discussion that I was not interested in debating this yet again. End of story. Period. Pointe finale.

[Wahalla]

wahalla yuh remember Dooga Reynolds?

Krishna Vishna Shandiram Rajah Gopal Singh?

ah tink im did show mi how fi turn deh ball off to leg...

[kia027]

This has nothing to do with a discussion not going my way. Read my lips. I was not raised in Jamaica. I did not drink the Koolaid. I do not buy into Jamaican definitions of race. I think they are seriously flawed. I am not the only one who feels this way. At university in the USA, I remember the constant differences between Jamaicans and African Americans on this point. My POV is closer to the African American. You are not going to convince me otherwise.

There is no point in further debating the issue and I said quite early in the discussion that I was not interested in debating this yet again. End of story. Period. Pointe finale.

Hence the foreign minded view of race as opposed to the jamaican view. We are not here to convince you but to explain and share the Jamaican point of view

[Tropicana]

I am thoroughly familiar with the Jamaican POV re: race and I reject it. No need to explain it.

[Wahalla]

Hence the foreign minded view of race as opposed to the jamaican view. We are not here to convince you but to explain and share the Jamaican point of view

Funny that isnt it that now I have heard when classifying ethnicity in the great North there are multiple options to define ones ethnicity in the last Census...Which is strikingly similar tothe Jamaican aproach...

Jamaicans as I have often opined are far more sophisticated and forward looking than yankis, both Far North and Far south... Even MLK saw Jamaican aproach as ideal.. one of the few things I agreed with him on

[j-kid]

TMI, TMI!!!!!!!!!! [QUOTE=Wahalla;692535]He was ultra smart... however all philosphy can be derived bya any one sitting on the throne and having a good dump after a curry![/QUOTE]

[Tropicana]

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[kia027]

Funny that isnt it that now I have heard when classifying ethnicity in the great North there are multiple options to define ones ethnicity in the last Census...Which is strikingly similar tothe Jamaican aproach...

Jamaicans as I have often opined are far more sophisticated and forward looking than yankis, both Far North and Far south... Even MLK saw Jamaican aproach as ideal.. one of the few things I agreed with him on

and the US census and other documents recognize people are multiracial, multiethnic as well. Jamaicans just call u by how u look and not by what ur genetic mix is.. eg St Bess 'red', browning, chiney royal, coolie royal, smooth black, etc

[RichD]

I am thoroughly familiar with the Jamaican POV re: race and I reject it. No need to explain it.

so if yuh truly reject it what yuh a draw document to show dat Ms Hanna is Lebanese rather than jus call her a black woman?

[Tropicana]

HELLO...are you wearing a blonde wig or something?

NO where did I say she was Lebanese...I was speaking of some of her ancestry. Everyone knows that Black people in the diaspora have ancestors from many parts of the world. Because some of her ancestors are Lebanese does not make her any less Black. What it with onoo why you are so ashamed to be Black?

[Wahalla]

and the US census and other documents recognize people are multiracial, multiethnic as well. Jamaicans just call u by how u look and not by what ur genetic mix is.. eg St Bess 'red', browning, chiney royal, coolie royal, smooth black, etc

In Jamaica How else would u diefentiate between Bunny Ruggs and Carrot.. ? does the description make them less Jamaican.. then throw inot the mix Cat Coore..

in north america simply two black man may work for a police force who cannto distinguished between people with Melanin (what is obvious differences to me, though i am Jamaican, and an unsophisticatred one at that ).. hence leads to mistaken identity, murder and fit up...

[Tropicana]

In Jamaica How else would u diefentiate between Bunny Ruggs and Carrot.. ?

Let's see Height, weight, hot or not , hairstyle (one wore locks - yesterday was the first time I say a photo of Carrot without locks , the other had an Afro at one point), the instrument they play drums vs African drums vs guitar, even their stage personalities were different....one was always serious and kinda stiff Carrot was always smiling, moving around, very animated .....shall I go on?

does the description make them less Jamaican..

Describing people in that way shows a need to distance oneself from one's African ancestry and that is a problematic aspect of the Jamaican psyche.

[RichD]

2. My POV on this is not going to change. I see it differently and I am not interested in debating it.

so why yuh debating again?

[Wahalla]

so why yuh debating again?

2. My POV on this is not going to change. I see it differently and I am not interested in debating it.

“The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.”
― Albert Einstein

“Despite my firm convictions, I have been always a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.”
― Malcolm X,