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Why dont you go down to Faith and Reasons and open up a post I see I am going to need more time to set you straight...This debate is not about Pontius Pilate,He unlike Jesus was among the living of that human kind is almost certain because of Pilate we have statues coins with his name and likeness and letters he probably wrote of Jesus a man who walked on water raise people from the dead cured diseases feed 5000 people with a fish and a loaf of bread we have nothing absolutely nothing....
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Originally posted by WitchyOoman View Post
Let us know when you come with one single credible source (NOTE that I said credible source to back up your idiotic statement.)
yawn - I'm so bored.
yuh still neh bring nuh proof of de existence a dem man deh.
Even Abraham is allegoryComment
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you're calling me an antisemite?,Now thats a stretchOriginally posted by WitchyOoman View Post
I actually watched the tape and was struck by what he said about us knowing very little about Jesus he was being kind,We actually know nothing about JesusComment
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I started out by asking you to show me one proof. That jesus
Walked the earth I am still waitingComment
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It was all posted here in a thread you started:
If you want to disregard the mountains of evidence, that is between you and the Lord. I won't be re-posting it up here.Comment
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Originally posted by Emperah View Post yuh still neh bring nuh proof of de existence a dem man deh.
Even Abraham is allegory
'old dis...
[QUOTE]Abraham didn't exist? Moses a myth?
Archeological and historical evidence of Biblical accuracy
By Andy and Berit Kjos"...always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you..." 1 Peter 3:15Dr. N. Glueck
Emphasis added below"There can be no doubt that archaeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of Old Testament tradition."[1] William F. Albright (1891–1971), one of the world's most respected archaeologists.
"It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a biblical reference."[2] Nelson Glueck, Jewish archaeologist honored even by liberal Time Magazine. (See picture above)
"The Bible's Buried Secrets," a new PBS documentary to be aired November 18, seems designed to undermine the Bible. Not only does it demote Abraham and his descendants to the realm of mythology, it also dismisses the Exodus and denies any written Old Testament record prior to the sixth century B.C.[3]
But we shouldn't be surprised at this unscientific assault on the Bible. As Professor William F. Albright, archeologist and head of Palestine's American School of Oriental Research, observed,"The excessive skepticism shown toward the Bible by important historical schools... has been progressively discredited. Discovery after discovery has established the accuracy of innumerable details, and has brought increased recognition to the value of the Bible as a source of history."[4]Archeological evidence that confirms the Bible
1. Written records from over 4,000 years ago. Dr. Paolo Matthiae, Director of the Italian Archeological Mission in Syria, "hit an archeological jackpot" in 1975. He discovered "the greatest third-millennium [B.C.] archive ever unearthed." It included "more than 15,000 cuneiform tablets and fragments" and unveiled a Semitic empire that dominated the Middle East more than four thousand years ago. Its hub was Ebla, where educated scribes filled ancient libraries with written records of history, people, places and commerce.[5]
"These early tablets display an ease of expression, an elegance that indicates complete mastery of the cuneiform system by the scribes," said Dr. Giovanni Pettinato, former epigraphist of the Italian Mission, who worked closely with Dr. Matthiae. "One can only conclude that writing had been in use at Ebla for a long time before 2500 B.C."
The Ebla tablets verified the worship of pagan gods such as Baal, Dagan and Asherah "known previously only from the Bible."[5] They mention the name "Abraham" and "Ur of Chaldees" (the Biblical Abraham's birthplace) as well as other familiar cities and places:"The names of cities thought to have been founded much later, such as Beirut and Byblos, leap from the tablets. Damascus and Gaza are mentioned, as well as two of the Biblical cities of the plain, Sodom and Gomorrah. ... Most intriguing of all are the personal names found on the Ebla tablets. They include Ab-ra-mu (Abraham), E-sa-um (Esau)...."[5]Destroyed and rebuilt several times, Ebla began its final decline around 1800 B.C. Since new generations settled on top of the old ruins, it left behind a many-layered "TEL" (Looks like a flat-topped hill. Capitalized for emphasis) which archeologists will continue to explore for years to come.
Centuries later, Moses was trained "in all the wisdom of the Egyptians" (Acts 7:22). Raised at Pharaoh's court, he would have learned to write on fragile papyrus as well as clay tablets. The 1988 discovery of the TEL el Amarna letters shows us that written messages were an important part of Moses' culture:"...there were about 400 cuneiform tablets discovered at this site which were part of the royal archives of Amenhotep III and Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) who reigned about 1400 BC. Among them were letters written in Babylonian cuneiform script to these Pharaohs of Egypt by various kings dwelling in the land of Canaan and Syria... written during the time of Moses [and Joshua]. They provide the first evidence of the Hebrew tribes entering into the land of Canaan in ancient times."[6]That last sentence points to the completion of the Biblical Exodus -- the Israelite journey, led by Moses, out of bondage in Egypt toward the land God had promised them. Perhaps the "scholars" behind the PBS "documentary" simply chose to ignore the evidence. After all, politically correct deceptions are far more acceptable than facts to a world that no longer tolerates Truth. But that's all the more reason to be ready with answers to those who question our faith. The following archeological finds should help prepare us for the challenges ahead.
More: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/archeology.htmComment
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'old dis:
ARCHAEOLOGISTS UNCOVER 4,000-YEAR-OLD SITE IN BIBLICAL ABRAHAM’S HOMETOWN OF UR (FROM THE TIME HE LIKELY LIVED THERE)More: http://phys.org/news/2013-04-huge-ancient-iraq.htmlBAGHDAD (TheBlaze/AP) — A British archaeologist says he and his colleagues have unearthed a huge, rare complex near the ancient city of Ur in southern Iraq, home of the biblical Abraham. The team first discovered the magnificent find using a satellite.Stuart Campbell of Manchester University’s Archaeology Department says the site goes back about 4,000 years, around the time Abraham would have lived there. It’s believed to be an administrative center for Ur.
“It has been off-limits to international archaeologists for many decades so the opportunity of re-engaging with the study of the earliest cities is a truly exciting one,” Campbell said, according to Phys.org. “The satellite photos suggested the presence of a substantial building, and our survey has indeed confirmed that there is a building about 80m square, probably connected to the administration of Ur.”
This photo taken on March 31, 2013 photo provided by Manchester University professor Stuart Campbell shows excavation in progress at Tell Khaiber, Iraq. Credit: AP
Campbell said Thursday it’s roughly the size of a football pitch — about 80 meters on each side. He says complexes of this size and age are rare. The archaeologist also says one of the finds is a plaque of a worshipper wearing a flowing robe and approaching a sacred site.
It’s the first British archaeological dig in southern Iraq since the 80s. It’s possible because parts of Iraq are now relatively stable. Campbell heralds the opportunity to study the area.
This photo taken on April 1, 2013 provided by Manchester University archaeologist Stuart Campbell shows a clay plaque, which shows a worshipper approaching a sacred place. Credit: AP
“As well as offering unparalleled opportunities for redeveloping research in one of the most important areas of archaeology in the world, the project is also building partnerships with local practitioners and institutions,” he continued. “The aim is to help rebuild capacity in archaeological expertise and heritage management, working alongside members of Iraq’s State Board for Antiquities and Heritage, and to address the 20-year isolation from the international community.”Comment
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The DNA of Abraham’s Children
QUOTE]ews have historically considered themselves “people of the book” (am haseferin Hebrew), referring to sacred tomes, but the phrase is turning out to have an equally powerful, if unintended, meaning: scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old (and now revived in a 2008 book) claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.In the wake of studies in the 1990s that supported biblically based notions of a priestly caste descended from Aaron, brother of Moses, an ambitious new project to analyze genomes collected from Jewish volunteers has yielded its first discoveries. In a paper with the kind of catchy title you rarely see in science journals—“Abraham’s Children in the Genome Era”—scientists report that the Jews of the Diaspora share a set of telltale genetic markers, supporting the traditional belief that Jews scattered around the world have a common ancestry. But various Diaspora populations have their own distinct genetic signatures, shedding light on their origins and history. In addition to the age-old question of whether Jews are simply people who share a religion or are a distinct population, the scientific verdict is settling on the latter.
Although the origin of the Jews has been traced, archeologically, to the Middle East in the second millennium B.C.E., what happened next has been more opaque. To sort it out, researchers collected DNA from Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, and Ashkenazi Jews around New York City; Turkish Sephardic Jews in Seattle; Greek Sephardic Jews in Thessaloniki and Athens; and Italian Jews in Rome as part ofthe Jewish HapMap Project. (All four grandparents of each participant had to have come from the same community.) As the scientists will report in the next issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, the analysis shows that “each of the Jewish populations formed its own distinctive cluster, indicating the shared ancestry and relative genetic isolation of the members of each of those groups.”
Jewish populations, that is, have retained their genetic coherence just as they have retained their cultural and religious traditions, despite migrations from the Middle East into Europe, North Africa, and beyond over the centuries, saysgeneticist Harry Ostrer of NYU Langone Medical Center, who led the study. Each Diaspora group has distinctive genetic features “representative of each group’s genetic history,” he says, but each also “shares a set of common genetic threads” dating back to their common origin in the Middle East. “Each of the Jewish populations formed its own distinctive cluster, indicating the shared ancestry and relative genetic isolation of the members of each of those groups.”
The various Jewish groups were more related to each other than to non-Jews, as well. Within every Jewish group, individuals shared as much of their genome as two fourth or fifth cousins, with Italian, Syrian, Iranian, and Iraqi Jews the most inbred, in the sense that they married within the small, close-knit community. In general, the genetic similarity of any two groups was larger the closer they lived to one another, but there was an exception: Turkish and Italian Jews were most closely related genetically, but are quite separated geographically.
Historical records suggest that Iranian and Iraqi Jews date from communities that formed in Persia and Babylon, respectively, in the fourth to sixth centuries B.C.E., and the DNA confirms that. The genetic signatures of these groups show that they remained relatively isolated—inbred—for some 3,000 years. The DNA also reveals that these Middle Eastern Jews diverged from the ancestors of today’s European Jews about 100 to 150 generations ago, or sometime during the first millennium B.C.E.[/QUOTE]
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i believe it's in galatians 4:2 if mi memory serve mi correctly. But unno passen nah touch dem pawt a de bible at all
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I just realise something......
I was in Barbados last week... and every one was telling me that I should have taken the holiday this week because it was "Crop Over" festival.....
Emancipation by the British was granted after the years sugar crop.. This means our ancestors were left with 2 months with out work till the next planting season....
had they granted emancipation at the logical moment...ie the begining of the year 1st of January then that would have made sense. because they would have had the havest payment to get in a month or so time... Bear in mind that the planting only a third of the cane feilds would have been planted in any given year....
a study never carried out is socuial developmment from the perspective of the slaves skills.. ie who made it.. drivers carpenters masons house slaves..
but then unno know wahalla nt too smart and is a sell outComment
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