jamaicans.com warroom politrixx

[blugiant]

Whatever name dem come up wid, mi know you going find fault. That is why I ask you as a an active participant in this section. What do you suggest calling it and how would you re-write the description.

iff itt natt kultural responsible mii will bunn fiyah pon it. nah do dem jab fe dem cah iyy natt bout mii.

imagine oldar oyinbo still chattinn bout da main issues pon yah y dem no langar poas iss cah aff tappics aff racism tarted bye blakk ann peeps ignorinn da racism widd dat fe placate dem att da xxpense aff blakk peeps rite fe voice dem cancern aff racism

mixxed race man sed:

To wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

[Tropicana]

iff itt natt kultural responsible mii will bunn fiyah pon it. nah do dem jab fe dem cah iyy natt bout mii.

Then you kind of lose the right to complain if you are not willing to suggest something and use a constructive approach.

Do you like any of the names that have been suggested:

The Calabash
The Stirring Pot
The Fiyah Pot
The name of the African Tree where the elders used to sit and reason.

How about making this Pon de Verandah and calling the one up soh Coodeh - Memba Dis.

imagine oldar oyinbo still chattinn bout da main issues pon yah y dem no langar poas iss cah aff tappics aff racism tarted bye blakk ann peeps ignorinn da racism widd dat fe placate dem att da xxpense aff blakk peeps rite fe voice dem cancern aff racism

mixxed race man sed:

To wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

Yes, yes, yes. I have always been one of the ones on here who has been offended when White tourists come on here and say they don't want to see discussions about race and racism. It is downright facety and out a ordah IMHO. It is a mentality in which they want to treat Jamaica as their personal playground and sex tourism paradise and they don't give a jot about the people who live there or the Jamaicans who live abroad.

I used to run into dis wid some a de frowsy gyal weh mi used to wuk who would go down to Jamaican, pick up some beach bwoy fe rooks and den come back and give me and other Black Jamaican women at work a really hard time.

That being said, Xavier has to balance the needs of all boardites. This is a tall order indeed.

[blugiant]

Yeah understood. What would YOU suggest calling this section?

tropi diss tredd iss natt bout mii. it iss bout x-man ann jamaicans.com mismanagement promotinn war pon yah ann inn da wurld. de faceteee ann out ardar bout contentious discussionn.

x-man ann imm minnions need fe do bettar cah bettar must cum

[Tropicana]

Just want your input on what would work. Xavier is trying to balance the needs of all boardites and it's tough to do. He caved in to pressure from some of the foreign mzungu boardites and now some Jamaican boardites are offended. So that is why I am asking what you would think would be an appropriate title.

Meet me in deark quick. Mi post new question and mi need you to tun on the TV to the Bachelorette.

[evanovitch]

general discussions said it all...varied topics....varied discourse...of more interest to moi is how juss one smaddy was able to get the owner fi not ongle act but act soooo quickly....n in doing so, was insulting in his choice of monikers...we r war mongers n are told such n now must embrace it if we want to post...but people who behaved ,dressed n carried on like sexual deviants , not only could take umbrage but would have THEIR umbrage embraced n championed , even in their absence...ah sah..u haffi love Jcan people....

[blugiant]

general discussions said it all...varied topics....varied discourse...of more interest to moi is how juss one smaddy was able to get the owner fi not ongle act but act soooo quickly....n in doing so, was insulting in his choice of monikers...we r war mongers n are told such n now must embrace it if we want to post...but people who behaved ,dressed n carried on like sexual deviants , not only could take umbrage but would have THEIR umbrage embraced n championed , even in their absence...ah sah..u haffi love Jcan people....

x-man juss fallawinn babylon racist strategies cah da solution imm implemented wass fe appeal oyinbo by mekkinn blakks look bad. da y imm decided fe market jamaicans.com as da onlee place wey blakks lowe fe discuss racial politrixx iss inn da "war room." so iss jamaicans.com mismanagement comfartable widd label blakks pon yah as war mongers.

[Tropicana]

Yeah yeah we know that already but what do you want him to call it?

[blugiant]

Yeah yeah we know that already but what do you want him to call it?

tropi diss tredd iss natt bout mii itt bout da lack aff sum jamaicans kultural awareness. mii neva figgit readinn sum artikkles inn jamaica paypahs wear yuh ear neighbars seyinn da reason y peeps got murdered iss cah imm ann soso was warrinn. imagine to reduced war inn da ghetto dudus add fe warrinn fraction fe sign peace treaty. dat y dudus got so much luv ann sum peeps use fe cawl imm prez.

mii tink wan aff da reason y x-man, hopefullee subcanciouslee, might ave change da name to da war room iss fe encourage more canflict ann dat might draw more traffic pon yah. histaree show uss da war profieers mekk biggar profit

wat was wrang widd gd ann y da name change?

[Tropicana]

Some of the foreign mzungu boardites said that the discussions of race were frightening them away ....and suggested that management make them less visible. Sistacalf and Linskinny come to mind but I believe there were others. Yes mi wi call name.

[LinSkinny]

I have already said it in another thread. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

It doesn't matter if anybody want to call me *******, oyuimbo, honky, chinaman, dreadie, blackman, yellowman. It really doesn't matter. I will not stoop to that level because if it makes one feel better calling people names, have at it. I can just as easily ignore the post, just like I ignore people in real life. The board owner is looking out for himself and the general population of the board, not just me, and not just you. We are guests on this board, whether we like that moniker of guests or not. To have a visitor, Jamaican or otherwise, come to the board and all they see is a bunch of bickering, detracts from the board overall. All you people talking about respect...What about the respecting the board owner and respecting the rest of the board population too, even if them not Jamaican? See, it works both ways.

BTW, discussions of race doesn't scare me away, but as stated above, bickering (keyword) detracts from the board. Call it drama if one wishes. It is also easy to criticize, but not so easy to step up to the plate and volunteer for a position and act accordingly. Look at some of the people complaining in Jamaica how government do dis and how government do dat. What have they personally done to change it, except gripe? If you have a different name for the 'War Room' suggest it in a respectful manner to the Supermod (instead of griping and criticizing) and he may grant your wish. I really could care less if the name is changed to something else, since I do not have any ownership in the board. I offered my suggestion in a respectful manner with a solution and it was granted. Simple as dat.

[Tropicana]

I have already said it in another thread. Catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

It doesn't matter if anybody want to call me *******, oyuimbo, honky, chinaman, dreadie, blackman, yellowman. It really doesn't matter. I will not stoop to that level because if it makes one feel better calling people names, have at it. I can just as easily ignore the post, just like I ignore people in real life. The board owner is looking out for himself and the general population of the board, not just me, and not just you. We are guests on this board, whether we like that moniker of guests or not. To have a visitor, Jamaican or otherwise, come to the board and all they see is a bunch of bickering, detracts from the board overall. All you people talking about respect...What about the respecting the board owner and respecting the rest of the board population too, even if them not Jamaican? See, it works both ways.

BTW, discussions of race doesn't scare me away, but as stated above, bickering (keyword) detracts from the board. Call it drama if one wishes. It is also easy to criticize, but not so easy to step up to the plate and volunteer for a position and act accordingly. Look at some of the people complaining in Jamaica how government do dis and how government do dat. What have they personally done to change it, except gripe? If you have a different name for the 'War Room' suggest it in a respectful manner to the Supermod (instead of griping and criticizing) and he may grant your wish. I really could care less if the name is changed to something else, since I do not have any ownership in the board. I offered my suggestion in a respectful manner with a solution and it was granted. Simple as dat.

Excuse me Lilskinny. Blugiant has explained a zillion times that mzungu is not an insult. It is a perfectly acceptable African word...

Mzungu is a Bantu word that means people of European descent.

....or just like you think that all topics about racial justice are warlike I guess you also think all African words are offensive and disrespectful.

Our ancestors were forced at gunpoint to give up their African names and languages. If some of us want to reclaim the heritage that was stolen from us and use African words and give our children African names how DARE you try and shove your negative stereotypes about everything African down our throats.

You know I have resisted saying this but this is why I resent some of the foreigners that Jamaica allows to live among us. You expect to be treated like gods and you want to ram your warped world view down everybody's throat. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Can you believe this facety chick?

[LinSkinny]

Excuse me Lilskinny. Blugiant has explained a zillion times that mzungu is not an insult. It is a perfectly acceptable African word...




....or just like you think that all topics about racial justice are warlike I guess you also think all African words are offensive and disrespectful.

Our ancestors were forced at gunpoint to give up their African names and languages. If some of us want to reclaim the heritage that was stolen from us and use African words and give our children African names how DARE you try and shove your negative stereotypes about everything African down our throats.

You know I have resisted saying this but this is why I resent some of the foreigners that Jamaica allows to live among us. You expect to be treated like gods and you want to ram your warped world view down everybody's throat. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Can you believe this facety chick?

If one thinks that I think I'm being insulted, we may be too blind to realize that any type of name calling is not acceptable, whether they have insulting meaning or not. It's as if none of the paragraph was read. Who shoving anything down anyone's throat? Stating that being respectful to the board owner and the rest of the board is shoving something down you throat? Is really me being hypocritical?

[Tropicana]

How dare you suggest that for me a person of African descent to use a perfectly acceptable and non-derogatory African word is offensive. You are totally out of line. As a person of African descent, I have a right to use any African word I want to as long as it is not an insulting word. So if I choose to use fe, tse, mzungu, oyinbo, onno, fee-fee, fenkey-fenkey, or any other African word it is rude, insulting and facety of you to say that I do not have a right to use it. Onoo always feel you onoo have de right to dictate terms of interaction. Wake up. This is 2013.

[LinSkinny]

Nothing I say will ever convince one that words cause conflict whether or not they have derogatory meaning. Continue on and have fun.

[Tropicana]

Yup time to click the ignore button.