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richd do yuh tink sharpton iss a mixxed race man groupee?
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da ting iss mii disagree ann mii tink mixxed race man shood be welcome cah sharpton march on washington commemoration is pep rallee
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am curious...do u hold Emperor Haile Selassie complicit for the Aklilu cabinet hiding the famine from him, or of the ogtagenerian Emperor being out of touch with what was being done in his name....given that the President is constrained by the powers he has as President , not to mention what he meets wen he comes into office, do u view the Emperor similarly to how u seem to view Obama n memba di Emperor claimed rule due to divine powerOriginally posted by Emperah View PostComment
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Originally posted by evanovitch View Post
not sure how it relates to the topic...the fact is obama is often invoked using MLK imagery, especially when he was running the first time...& based on his office & record it is not appropriate for him to be associated with what MLK stood forComment
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The Emperor did not bomb anybody, and support other nations boming and murdering innocent ppl.
Only ting de Emperor did was teef de trown
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sum sed mixxed race man iss da fullfillment aff da drean mlk chatt bout.Originally posted by jah_yout View Post
da realitee iss mii agree widd mixxed race man dat king wood ave been protestinn
da qwestian iss iff diss iss an effart fe garner more support fe da mixxed race man ar iff diss iss a march fe push blakk intarestsComment
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sellassie was natt a fighter. imm runn ann leff imm peeps untill itt safe fe returnOriginally posted by Emperah View PostThe Emperor did not bomb anybody, and support other nations boming and murdering innocent ppl.
Only ting de Emperor did was teef de trownComment
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Originally posted by blugiant View Post
haffi bun yu out fi a spread roman propaganda
selassie had fought in many a battle & including the italian in collusion with europe invasion...and this is how the emperor threw back world war 2 at them;
this is a thread about obama yet babylonia propaganda a mek it bout selassie...there is no comparison...elect of men vs elect of godComment
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Sellassie was a great warrior and strategist like his uncle Menelik, it was troo battle him get to be Emperor.Originally posted by blugiant View PostComment
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Originally posted by RichD View Post
in a way both...groupies of the image projected of the men but not the actual men themselves,,,this thing is mostly cosmetic & symbolic anyway---the organizers only want the biggest star to appear at their eventComment
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babylonia media & education/gov't propaganda has reduced MLK to one phrase--"i have a dream"---but later in his trod he was way more than just that quote/speech; his full message has been co-opted & derailed;Originally posted by blugiant View Post
linking him with obama as the fulfillment of MLK's "dream" is pure propaganda & tricknology---eagerly eaten up by the mis-informed massesComment
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realitee yuh a chat mlk dream speech ave been co-opted, especiallee by da canservatives woo ar now usinn itt against blakks. cansevatives ar usinn da "natt color aff skin butt cantent aff character argument fe ignore institutional racism. no longer iss itt bout group racism practiced by oyinbo but itt ann individualized racism argument. nobadee chatt bout da part aff mlk speech bout check returned fe insufficent fund da blakk got.Originally posted by jah_yout View Post
imagine sharpton misusinn blakk churches fe gitt heavee blakk tunnout butt no wear yuh see imm chattinn bout blakks. imm chattinn bout jabs ann unemployment wild natt seyinn blakk unemployment iss a disgrace. mixxed race man message too
imm chattinn oww lgbt communitee equalitee butt natt bout blakk equalitee ar unequalitee. mixxed race man message too
dem chattinn bout votinn rites ann oww da supreme court overturned sum aff itt butt ignorinn da canservatives argument dat de reason y itt needed to be changed iss dat itt targitted republikkan area dispropotionatelee in comparassion to demonkkkrat area.
realitee yuh chatt ann until blakks git wise to da politrixx game being played blakk sufferation will cantinue ann sellout misleaders will cantinue fe prospar at blakk peeps intarests
Why We Are Marching
50th Anniversary March on Washington
Talking Points
The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom took place 50 years ago on August 28th at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC. It was during this march that Dr. King gave his iconic “I Have a Dream” speech that has reverberated for decades. While we celebrate all that was achieved in the 50 years since that march, we recognize that the “Dream” has not been fulfilled and the battle for justice is ongoing.
The name of the march on August 24th is the “National Action to Realize the Dream March”. It is important that you use the name when speaking about the march so that people understand that this march is not just a commemoration, but a continuation of the efforts 50 years ago.
The talking points for the march are below:
Jobs & the Economy – Jobs are still a major focus of the march 50 years later. Unemployment is still plaguing many communities. The black community still sees double the unemployment rates of the rest of the country. Youth unemployment is nearly six times higher.
Voting Rights – Voting Rights have been thrust to the forefront of the agenda after the Supreme Court dismantled a crucial section of the Voting Rights Act. Now, without protections to keep states with a history of disenfranchising voters, those states are left susceptible to new laws that threaten to keep them from the polls. This after winning crucial battles in 2012 against misleading claims of voter fraud.
Workers’ Rights – Workers’ Rights have been under attack in states across this country. Low wage earners in certain industries have been banned the right to unionize and collectively bargain for fair pay, benefits and other protections. Others who have been protected have had their rights attacked or taken away through the introduction and passage of bills that threaten workers’ protections.
Criminal Justice Issues, Stand Your Ground Laws & Gun Violence – The Trayvon Martin and Marissa Alexander cases put Stand Your Ground laws under the microscope. The cases brought to light the inequalities that lie within its interpretation and the fact that it is in place in a majority of states underscores that we must fight to repeal the laws. Gun violence has been an issue in low income communities for years, but the Sandy Hook tragedy created an urgency to address gun laws. While Congress failed to act on sensible gun legislation, we must continue to demand action. Other criminal justice issues include sentencing disparities, the prison pipeline and racial profiling.
Women’s Rights – Women continue to have to fight laws that limit their ability to make decisions about their own health. Many states have legislation that has either recently passed or that has been introduced that eliminates a woman’s right to choose even in instances of incest, rape or health. Women are also still making less than male counterparts but living longer. The implications of this are numerous but keep women in vulnerable positions.
Immigration – Immigration reform has been discussed for many years, but gained traction in the recent months with the introduction and passage of a bill in Senate. While it has stalled in the House, this legislation will have a huge, positive impact on the economy and create civil rights for the millions of immigrants living in this country. Despite the fact that many immigrants are Latino, this is not just a Latino issue – it is an American issue and affects many immigrant communities including blacks and Asians. We need to grant citizenship to the many immigrants who are here and allow them to fully achieve the American Dream.
LGBT Equality – This year the LGBT community made progress in their work to achieve equality. With 13 states now allowing gays and lesbians to marry and the Supreme Court overturning DOMA and Prop 8, the crucial victories set up a forward march. However, the LGBT community still faces employment discrimination and other challenges that block their ability to achieve full rights.
Environmental Justice – Many low income people and minorities face environmental challenges that threaten their health and their lifestyle. In Los Angeles, African Americans are twice as likely to die in a heat wave. 68% of African Americans live within 30 miles of a coal plant and this creates more incidences of asthma. Latino children are twice as likely to die from an asthma attack as non- Latino children. There are many more issues related to the environment that impact outcomes for these communities.
Youth – Many of the aforementioned issues affect youth, but in addition to those challenges, youth often deal with college loans. In recent years the college loan interest rate has been at risk for doubling multiple times.Comment
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The Black Mis-Leaders' Love-Fest with Power on the Mall
by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
The commemoration of the March on Washington has been ruined. President Obama, the global assassin, protector of Wall Street, and reigning Great Mass Incarcerator, will star in the production on the National Mall. “Dr. Martin Luther King serves as a mere prop in the ceremony.” In their embrace of Power, the organizers have desecrated the Black American legacy of struggle.
The Black Mis-Leaders' Love-Fest with Power on the Mall
by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
“Proximity to Power has always been their Dream.”
For those who seek an independent Black politics that is faithful to the historical Black consensus for peace and social justice, the inclusion of President Barack Obama in the 50th anniversary of the 1963 March on Washington is a desecration. The ancestral sanctum is to be utterly defiled by the presence of the very personification of imperial savagery and a ballooning domestic police state.
Of course, the organizers of this monumental self-debasement – this obscene groveling at the feet of Power – see Obama’s participation as the ultimate testimony to Black progress. Proximity to Power has always been their Dream. Dr. Martin Luther King serves as a mere prop in the ceremony, which seeks to draw a straight line from the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation, through the 1963 mass march, to the First Black President’s embrace of the 2013 commemoration – a kind of holy trinity.
For the Black Misleadership Class, the great social movement in which Dr. King played such a pivotal role was brought forth, not to confront Power, but to integrate it. President Obama is the perfect blending – the literal embodiment of Black Power, in the warped worldview of the 2013 organizers. Dr. King has no place in this abomination, except to mark the tolling of the bell on his dream to overcome the three evils inherent in imperial capitalism: racism, militarism and materialism.
It is a funereal occasion.
“For those that spent much of the next 50 years jockeying for greater opportunities to join structures of power, there is no shame in hosting the nominal head of Empire at a great public ceremony.”
Not that the actors were so different in 1963. But, back then, the grasping Black classes had not yet been launched on the trajectory that would give them a stake in the imperial order. Their status was still aspirational. Years of tumult would unfold – and Dr. King’s assassination – before the system would deign to offer serious silver to the Judases in his entourage and the larger movement. For those that spent much of the next 50 years jockeying for greater opportunities to join structures of power – the “burning house” that Dr. King feared he was leading his people into – there is no shame in hosting the nominal head of Empire at a great public ceremony. Rather, such an event is the pinnacle of success – especially for folks that imagine they have a special, complexional relationship with His Highness.
It has been so long since the dissolution of the Black Freedom Movement, the pretenders to Black leadership have forgotten how to speak the language of struggle. Non-violent “direct action,” Dr. King’s preferred tactic to “create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue,” has degenerated to mean simply marching down a street on a sunny day.
The 1963 march was not an example of direct action – quite the opposite. The purpose was to gather as many people as possible for an orderly and “dignified” demonstration of the movement’s mass following and broad support – and then get them out of town by sundown, as promised to the powers-that-be. The last thing the organizers wanted was that a quarter million marchers create a “crisis” in the heart of Washington – a scenario that Dr. King hoped to organize in the summer of 1968, but was interrupted by an assassin.
“The pretenders to Black leadership have forgotten how to speak the language of struggle.”
The 1963 march was so accommodating to the Kennedy’s demand for orderliness, Malcolm X dubbed it the “Farce on Washington.”
“It ceased to be a black march; it ceased to be militant; it ceased to be angry; it ceased to be impatient,” said Malcolm. “In fact, it ceased to be a march. It became a picnic, an outing with a festive, circus-like atmosphere....”
It was also the biggest show of massed humanity in the history of the Nation’s Capitol – which certainly made the intended impression. But, accommodation with Power is not what created the movement that brought the throngs to Washington for the one-day “outing,” nor did strolling in the park carry that movement forward in the ensuing years of confrontation with power.
The 1963 March on Washington was sanitized by the organizers, themselves, whose goal was to impress the nation – including other Black people – with the size and the breadth of the forces the leaders could call on at that point in time. It did not seek confrontation on that day, although its immensity served as implicit warning that masses of people were deeply committed to social transformation, and might not always be so orderly.
“Accommodation with Power is not what created the movement that brought the throngs to Washington.”
In that sense, the event on the Mall was quite unrepresentative of the movement. It was, as Malcolm described from the sidelines, “a festive, circus-like atmosphere” – but it also occurred smack in the middle of years of mortal combat with the “system.” When the march is taken out of the context of what happened before and after, all that remains is the “picnic” and the self-censored, deliberately non-confrontational speeches – most notably Dr. King’s vague “dreaming.” Which perfectly suits the needs of today’s Black Misleadership Class, who have no intention of confronting Power – ever! On the contrary, they cling to the garments of Power, in the person of the First Black President, and wrap themselves in the flag of Empire.
Dr. King rejected U.S. empire, and broke with President Lyndon Johnson over the "inter-related" issues of foreign war and and domestic poverty. There is not a shadow of a doubt that King would denounce Obama in the strongest terms, were he alive, today. Yet, those who pose as his political and moral descendants hug the presidential scorpion to their bosoms.
Malcolm’s critique of the 1963 March does not seem so dated if one substitutes the words “Obama” or “Democrats” for “white liberals”:
“The white liberals [Democrats/Obama] control the Negro and the Negro vote by controlling the Negro civil rights leaders. As long as they [Democrats/Obama] control the Negro civil rights leaders, they can also control and contain the Negro's struggle, and they can control the Negro's so-called revolt.”
This August 28th will be a day of control and containment – amid a love-fest with Power.
BAR executive editor Glen Ford can be contacted at [email protected].
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can da same great warrior ann strateegist argument be use to describe da mixxed race man cah boat mixxed race man ann sellassie studee macheveilliOriginally posted by Emperah View PostComment
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Originally posted by blugiant View Post
no it can't...we are talking actual military action...battle....live rounds; not book readingComment
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