marley wass natt blakk

[Bandana]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

Blu, I did find a whole page that remind me of you today [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

Here You Go


Burn Away [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

[evanovitch]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quote:

"I don't stand for the black man's side, I don' t stand for the
white man's side. I stand for God's side"


oww marley chat bout imm worship selassie, a blakk god, den chatt nunsense bout imm doan stand fii da blakk side.

mii qwestian fii oonnoo was marley blakk? </div></div>

the question should be, how come dem whiten him image so...is hard fi recognise the real Bob wid all di messiah makeover...an u know dat alll recognised masterpieces of the other Messiah were done in pink paint ...flesh tone is the word dont [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>

yu kinda gitt itt. yu see rasta created selassie as blakk god. bob saw selassie as boat a blakk god ann nan racial. wat mii chattinn bout iss da cantradiction aff marley realitee </div></div>

but Bob is like many a Jamaican...a contradiction in action....an mi neva mean di actually painting...mi mean seh dem whitewash his image sooo much dat u no muss confuse as to who the real Bob is.....and as the years pass and the divisions widen, i see him being beatified by di Orthodox Church ...oops...wrong denomination...dem no do tings like dat [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

again i wonder how he has garnered all the rep wen Peter did equal work as a revolutionary ,and constantly

[blugiant]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blu..so you saying a person's "blackness" is defined by dem political/philosophical beliefs?? </div></div>

blackness iss defined by kulcha ann da social realitee. a latt aff marley philosopical beliefs imm tekk fram garvey butt marley tried fii applii itt inn nan-racial way. garvey chatt bout da secand emacipation da wan aff da mind. marley sing dat wii affii emancipated owa mind fram mental slaveree. tink pon itt diss way da wailer add wan mzungu as dem lead singer singinn marley tune cah dem marketted marley as nan racial

[blugiant]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70394-bawlout.gif[/img] even inna music blu??? come on man! [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70400-talktohand.gif[/img]

Don't you think God loves all people?? Well so did Bob and there ain't nothing wrong with that!


"Color is not the problem, it is the hearts and minds of men" ~ Abajah

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mii ear wan blakk prof sey mzungu add fii tunn christ mzungu fii appeal too mzungu.

yu ear marley sing ann chat bout imm a rasta ann rasta is nan-racial. soo tell mii oww selassie iss blakk ann nan-racial. yu see dem marketted marley ann imm music as nan-racial ting cah dem wass appealinn too mzungu. manee mzungu see marley as blakk ann nan-racial and itt iss dat symbol aff marley ann blakk ann nan-racial dat mzungu see as dem solution too racism. since marley iss natt blakk imm represent dat multi nan blakk reality dat iss dem solution

[blugiant]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quote:

"I don't stand for the black man's side, I don' t stand for the
white man's side. I stand for God's side"


oww marley chat bout imm worship selassie, a blakk god, den chatt nunsense bout imm doan stand fii da blakk side.

mii qwestian fii oonnoo was marley blakk? </div></div>

the question should be, how come dem whiten him image so...is hard fi recognise the real Bob wid all di messiah makeover...an u know dat alll recognised masterpieces of the other Messiah were done in pink paint ...flesh tone is the word dont [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>

yu kinda gitt itt. yu see rasta created selassie as blakk god. bob saw selassie as boat a blakk god ann nan racial. wat mii chattinn bout iss da cantradiction aff marley realitee </div></div>

but Bob is like many a Jamaican...a contradiction in action....an mi neva mean di actually painting...mi mean seh dem whitewash his image sooo much dat u no muss confuse as to who the real Bob is.....and as the years pass and the divisions widen, i see him being beatified by di Orthodox Church ...oops...wrong denomination...dem no do tings like dat [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

again i wonder how he has garnered all the rep wen Peter did equal work as a revolutionary ,and constantly </div></div>

yess. yu rite dan symbol as marley as nan-racial versus da man woo wass canfused but imm blakkness. itt dat cantradiction mii chattinn bout marley blakk reggae music as blakk revolutionary ting marketted too mzungu as a nan blakk ting

[blugiant]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

Crazy Baldheads*

I and I build a cabin
I and I plant a corn.
Didn't my people before me
Slave for this country?
Now you look me with a scorn
And you eat up all my corn.
We're gonna chase those crazy (x2)
Chase those crazy baldheads
Chase those crazy baldheads right out of town.

Build your penetentaries,
We build your schools.
Brainwash education
To make us the fools.
Hate is your reward for our love
Telling yourself your God above!
We're gonna chase those crazy baldheads
We're gonna chase those crazy bumbas
Right outta town.

[turtledude]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blu..so you saying a person's "blackness" is defined by dem political/philosophical beliefs?? </div></div>

blackness iss defined by kulcha ann da <span style="color: #3366FF">social realitee. </span> a latt aff marley philosopical beliefs imm tekk fram garvey butt marley tried fii applii itt inn nan-racial way. garvey chatt bout da secand emacipation da wan aff da mind. marley sing dat wii affii emancipated owa mind fram mental slaveree. tink pon itt diss way da wailer add wan mzungu as dem lead singer singinn marley tune cah dem <span style="color: #3366FF"> marketted</span> marley as nan racial </div></div>

...so his blackness was diluted for money or what? (p.s. some mzungus like revolution music...you wouldn't know it tho, cuz their politics won't kick in until the point where martial law is declared...if u get my drift, an it has nothin to do with race) Vietnam -era "Credence" stuff wasn't supporting any status quo.... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

[blugiant]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blu, I did find a whole page that remind me of you today [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

Here You Go


Burn Away [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

</div></div>

Come we go burn down Babylon one more time
(Come we go burn down Babylon one more time);
Come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon);
For them soft! Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)
Them soft! Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)
So come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon)!

Men see their dreams and aspiration-a
Crumble in front of their face,
And all of their wicked intention
To destroy the human race.

And how I know - and how I know - and that's how I know:
A Reggae Music, mek we chant down Babylon;
With music, mek we chant down Babylon;
This music, mek we chant down Babylon;
This music, come we chant down Babylon.

Come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon one more time);
Come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon);
For them soft! Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)
Them soft! Me say, Them soft! (ah-yoy!)
So come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon)!

Me say, Music you're - music you're the key,
Talk to who? Please talk to me,
Bring the voice of - of the Rastaman,
Communicating to - 'cating to everyone.

How I (know) - how I know, how I (know) - how I know -
And that's how I know:
A Reggae Music, chant down - chant down - chant down Babylon,
Chant down Babylon, chant down Babylon,
Chant down Babylon!
Reggae Music, chant down Babylon!
Reggae Music, chant down Babylon!
Reggae Music, chant down Babylon!

[evanovitch]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quote:

"I don't stand for the black man's side, I don' t stand for the
white man's side. I stand for God's side"


oww marley chat bout imm worship selassie, a blakk god, den chatt nunsense bout imm doan stand fii da blakk side.

mii qwestian fii oonnoo was marley blakk? </div></div>

the question should be, how come dem whiten him image so...is hard fi recognise the real Bob wid all di messiah makeover...an u know dat alll recognised masterpieces of the other Messiah were done in pink paint ...flesh tone is the word dont [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>

yu kinda gitt itt. yu see rasta created selassie as blakk god. bob saw selassie as boat a blakk god ann nan racial. wat mii chattinn bout iss da cantradiction aff marley realitee </div></div>

but Bob is like many a Jamaican...a contradiction in action....an mi neva mean di actually painting...mi mean seh dem whitewash his image sooo much dat u no muss confuse as to who the real Bob is.....and as the years pass and the divisions widen, i see him being beatified by di Orthodox Church ...oops...wrong denomination...dem no do tings like dat [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

again i wonder how he has garnered all the rep wen Peter did equal work as a revolutionary ,and constantly </div></div>

yess. yu rite dan symbol as marley as nan-racial versus da man woo wass canfused but imm blakkness. itt dat cantradiction mii chattinn bout marley blakk reggae music as blakk revolutionary ting marketted too mzungu as a nan blakk ting </div></div>

but Blu that was not the marketing campaign for the US market...memba, to make it, u have to break this market...an the market was huge bak in the days...not like now wid 2m seller being tops....he was not marketed as a revolutionary in the US market...i will agree that his paleness made him more palatable re marketing but therein is the rub...Bob sought black American listenership....the powers that be ongle sought white as is the norm due to the people who r in place to effect a marketing strategy....plus the European success and the hippie types who had discovered Negril in those days maintained that tendency of target in the US

i am always amazed to see how a R is seen as a Marley expert at the expense of say,Boots....but we done know the difference bet the two persons

[blugiant]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turtledude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blu..so you saying a person's "blackness" is defined by dem political/philosophical beliefs?? </div></div>

blackness iss defined by kulcha ann da <span style="color: #3366FF">social realitee. </span> a latt aff marley philosopical beliefs imm tekk fram garvey butt marley tried fii applii itt inn nan-racial way. garvey chatt bout da secand emacipation da wan aff da mind. marley sing dat wii affii emancipated owa mind fram mental slaveree. tink pon itt diss way da wailer add wan mzungu as dem lead singer singinn marley tune cah dem <span style="color: #3366FF"> marketted</span> marley as nan racial </div></div>

...so he deluted his blackness for money? </div></div>

intarestinn way aff puttinn itt. sum jamaican sey dat imm mekk itt cah imm wass alf mzungu. tink pon da music bizz ann oww lita skinn blakk iss pushed versus darka skinned blakk. peeps knoo da wan aff da main way dem pushed da wailers wass fii putt da lita skinn blakk as da lead singa. itt arda fii markett wan darka skinned blakk singinn reggae as nan-racial

[Bandana]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

All I can say is I did not choose my skin color, but I do choose how I live my life, and how I show respect to others.

If Bob's music helped me to understand and express my own desire for unity among races does that make him bad in your eyes?

Are you saying that his music was marketed to white people when he meant the message only to go to blacks??

Are there any white people you DO respect/like?? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

Is there any solution from your perspective, or do you think we should live segregated forever???

Me gone home now... likkle more...

[turtledude]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

intarestinn way aff puttinn itt. sum jamaican sey dat imm mekk itt cah imm wass alf mzungu. tink pon da music bizz ann oww lita skinn blakk iss pushed versus darka skinned blakk. peeps knoo da wan aff da main way dem pushed da wailers wass fii putt da lita skinn blakk as da lead singa. itt arda fii markett wan darka skinned blakk singinn reggae as nan-racial </div></div>

sarry Blu...I had to go back an reread what u said cuz I missed something....and then edited my wording....I agree with most of what u r sayin, but in the context of those times...ya gotta remember that the mzungu in the USA were divided and not of any cohesive mindset...the idea of marketing anything and everything has never changed tho... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img]

[blugiant]

Re: marley wass natt blakk

Being of mixed race, Bob Marley faced questions about his own racial identity throughout his life. Regrding his mixed race, Bob Marley once reflected:

"I don't have prejudice against myself. My father was a white and my mother was black. Them call me half-caste or whatever. Me don't dip on nobody's side. Me don't dip on the black man's side nor the white man's side. Me dip on God's side, the one who create me and cause me to come from black and white."

[blugiant]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but Blu that was not the marketing campaign for the US market...memba, to make it, u have to break this market...an the market was huge bak in the days...not like now wid 2m seller being tops....he was not marketed as a revolutionary in the US market...i will agree that his paleness made him more palatable re marketing but therein is the rub...Bob sought black American listenership....the powers that be ongle sought white as is the norm due to the people who r in place to effect a marketing strategy....plus the European success and the hippie types who had discovered Negril in those days maintained that tendency of target in the US

i am always amazed to see how a R is seen as a Marley expert at the expense of say,Boots....but we done know the difference bet the two persons </div></div>



dat marley markettinn cantradiction. marley wass triinn fii appeal too blakk merican butt imm wass being marketted too mzungu. da joke iss dat nowadays dem markett dancehall singa too blakk merikkan furst ann afta dem gitt a likkle established dem markett dem too mzungu.

mii awlway fine itt intarestinn wen marley chatt sey dat blakk mericans doan appreciate imm cah imm chattinn bout afrikka ann yu cood natt chatt too moas blakk merikkan bout afrikka cah dem neva readee fii dat yet.

dem gawn like bob nan racial versian aff rasta iss da onlee wan. mii guess bobo dread noh rasta too

[blugiant]

Re: wass bob marley blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All I can say is I did not choose my skin color, but I do choose how I live my life, and how I show respect to others.

If Bob's music helped me to understand and express my own desire for unity among races does that make him bad in your eyes?

Are you saying that his music was marketed to white people when he meant the message only to go to blacks??

Are there any white people you DO respect/like?? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

Is there any solution from your perspective, or do you think we should live segregated forever???

Me gone home now... likkle more...
</div></div>

peter tosh sey "religion is misturned philosophy. i am that I am. i do not tell lie. oow many you know not tell lie, mon?"

mii qwestian fii iss bob nan racial version aff rasta misturned philoosoopee?

bob wass uncomfortable widd imm skinn. yu neva ear wen imm use fii chatt bout blakk yuths use fii cawl imm mzungu pikkney. imm philosooopee reflected dat. dat y imm see imm cyaan fault imm mzungu ovaseer faddar cah imm cum fram dat too.

wen yu sey bob music help yu fii betta undatandinn yu desire fii racial unitee wat yu meen. bob sey imm a rasta ann den chatt bout widdout regard to race. iff yu knoo da histaree aff rasta den yu knoo dat itt wass farm widd regard too race. dat da cantradiction widd marley rasta philosoopee ann iff yu knoo yu histaree den yu wood see da lite

wat mii seyinn iss dat marley nan-racial rasta showed da imm wass uncomfartable widd imm blakkness cah aff imm mixx race heritage