marley wass natt blakk

**evanovitch** · 03-02-2007, 09:57 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you put down a race all the time then you must see yourself above it, no?

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would that be like...if all the men/women sought seem to follow a pattern, does that reveal the choosers' thinking... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

**evanovitch** · 03-02-2007, 09:59 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see your point Donnika, and I agree the woman disserves the big-up for sticking up for what she feels about racism.

I think it's just the many ******* posts that led to that kind of response... As well as my response here in this thread...

I am not here to start trouble, just here to share how I feel...

Anyway, it's time for me to go home and love-up my pikney and have a good weekend...

Peace,
Danna

as opposed to others ,right...yet even pointing out the 'latencies' in people's written statements makes it confrontational...not pointing out the double standard

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**evanovitch** · 03-02-2007, 10:03 PM

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A oww marley chat bout imm worship selassie, a blakk god,

B den chatt nunsense bout imm doan stand fii da blakk side.

C diss show dat marley did natt knoo immself ann wass raciallee canfused.

D since marley sey imm doan tand for da blakk man side den dat meen dat imm wass wan miseducated wanneebee mzungu

E mii qwestian fii oonnoo was marley blakk?

great essay question still Blu...tanks...maybe it wi show up pon a GP paper one day...wen our system ketch up [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70409-waytogo.gif[/img]

**niceniss** · 03-02-2007, 10:04 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnika</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(the only positive big-up ******* thread I have ever seen posted by Blu was posted today) </div></div> I found the immediate responses to this thread quite distateful. It tells me that instead of ever listening to his questions people are simply seeking his validation and perhaps glorification. Why not debate his points on their own merit? </div></div>

Come again? </div></div>

well the responses of shock that he would say something nice about a mzungu finally, tells me that there's more than meets the eye to some people's dislike/distates for his threads. Seems to me they would prefer his praise than his own opinions...

**tsophra** · 03-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

gotcha

**blugiant** · 03-03-2007, 04:09 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
lemme see if I can put it in my words..are yu saying a position of racial neutrality kinda goes against the essence of what he (or rasta) was born out of? </div></div>

mii natt chattinn bout da essence mii chattinn bout da roots aff rasta. marley iss bout da essence aff da nan racial rasta, nat da arteekal roots aff rasta

itt was racism ann inequalitee inn ja, dat wass da roots aff rasta. mzungu ann mix raced jamaicans tried fii imposed inferioritee indenteetee pon dark skinned blakk jamaicans. rasta reason ann used dem afrikkaness fii bring forth da rastaman. soo rasta wass barn fii apposed racism dat triied fii imposed mzungu babylon knowledge pon da blakk man. dat y rasta create dem own blakk image aff god fii replace mzungu image aff god dat dem force da blakk man fii worship pon bended knees. yu see rasta created selassie as da blakk god fii sey dat dem ave dem own blakk god pon dem side

soo oww marley aggoo trii fii denii selassie is a blakk god ann imm deh pon da blakk man side. yu see arjen marley nan racial ann so cawled inclusive varsian aff rasta doan encourage diversitee cah wen mii challenge itt yu see manee blakk ann mzungu trii fii gawn like onlee marley varsian aff rasta iss rite

**julie*mango** · 03-03-2007, 04:42 PM

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What is so wrong with "one love"? What is so wrong with loving another brethren not because he is a black man or a white man but because he is human?

Blu.. you have called me a sellout because I stated that I don't limit my thinking to just black and here it is the man claims his neutrality and you say he is not black? Well guess what, you are right...he is black and white and God knows what else too. And most of us fall in the same category. So why shouldn't we be accepting of other peoples?

WWJD [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/helpsmilie.gif[/img]

**Magician** · 03-04-2007, 10:03 AM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mountaingal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think you should ask blu directly if he thinks bob marley is a sellout, Bandanna.
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Her 2007 Edition of Blu-Speak might still be on back-order... </div></div>

would dat be his version of patois or his views? </div></div>

His views are pretty straight forward (Althou not always logical). But half the time mi nuh feel like try spend half an hour try fi decipher fi him spellology.

It seem like im spill some porrige pon di keyboard, annnnnn allll a diiii keeees deeeem stiiiick. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/dizzy.gif[/img]

**evanovitch** · 03-04-2007, 03:02 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magic</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mountaingal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i think you should ask blu directly if he thinks bob marley is a sellout, Bandanna.
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Her 2007 Edition of Blu-Speak might still be on back-order... </div></div>

would dat be his version of patois or his views? </div></div>

His views are pretty straight forward (Althou not always logical). But half the time mi nuh feel like try spend half an hour try fi decipher fi him spellology.

It seem like im spill some porrige pon di keyboard, annnnnn allll a diiii keeees deeeem stiiiick. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/dizzy.gif[/img] </div></div>

eva get di feeling dat people see one word and juss go wid dat

**Magician** · 03-05-2007, 04:30 AM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
eva get di feeling dat people see one word and juss go wid dat </div></div>

A true. But di author himself share some of the blame. People nuh like fi read very long posts, with bad spelling. So they jump to conclusions.

**jah_yout** · 03-05-2007, 03:05 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bandanna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
since marley sey imm doan tand for da blakk man side den dat meen dat imm wass wan miseducated wanneebee mzungu

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That not mean "sell-out" [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img] </div></div>

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yes it does...
marley a sellout....
mi a tell yu...sorry fi mawga dog mawga dog tun roun bite yu...
give your life to the people and some guy will come along calling you a sellout or mzungu wannnaabeee...

**jah_yout** · 03-05-2007, 03:10 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blugiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arjen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
lemme see if I can put it in my words..are yu saying a position of racial neutrality kinda goes against the essence of what he (or rasta) was born out of? </div></div>

mii natt chattinn bout da essence mii chattinn bout da roots aff rasta. marley iss bout da essence aff da nan racial rasta, nat da arteekal roots aff rasta

itt was racism ann inequalitee inn ja, dat wass da roots aff rasta. mzungu ann mix raced jamaicans tried fii imposed inferioritee indenteetee pon dark skinned blakk jamaicans. rasta reason ann used dem afrikkaness fii bring forth da rastaman. soo rasta wass barn fii apposed racism dat triied fii imposed mzungu babylon knowledge pon da blakk man. dat y rasta create dem own blakk image aff god fii replace mzungu image aff god dat dem force da blakk man fii worship pon bended knees. yu see rasta created selassie as da blakk god fii sey dat dem ave dem own blakk god pon dem side

soo oww marley aggoo trii fii denii selassie is a blakk god ann imm deh pon da blakk man side. yu see arjen marley nan racial ann so cawled inclusive varsian aff rasta doan encourage diversitee cah wen mii challenge itt yu see manee blakk ann mzungu trii fii gawn like onlee marley varsian aff rasta iss rite

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we're the survivors, yea
the BLACK survivors....
we AFRICANS will fight we find it necessary...
old pirates yes they rob I....
BLACKman redemption....
i'm BLACK and i'm comely...
weh dem want a white god/ well god come BLACK...

i guess these other marley quotes don't matter...

if he blindly takes the black man's side even when wrong i guess that would make him a hero in your eyes...
i guess your brother in africa who helped the white man to enslave us is a hero in your eyes as he happens to be black...
ok then

**tsophra** · 03-05-2007, 05:12 PM

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JY..let's put aside the issue of blackness for a second..

I think Blu's point about the contradiction between saying you're not on the black side or the white when rasta was born out of the state of inequality that exist(ed) between the races is an interesting one.

how can one be rasta and neutral at the same time? could Bob being 12 tribes have contributed to his stance?

**blugiant** · 03-06-2007, 08:03 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnika</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kingston20</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
Now was he a prophet, I dont know never met a prophet to speak of, but he was very insightful and had business acumen. What we should not do is build him into some deity, supreme being or spiritual messiah. Bob himself would have lashed out against that as he saw how the politicians used that same tactics against the people of Jamaica, I would like to think that Bob was a messenger, who message he was spreading well obviously him born and grow in Jamaica plus he was his own man so it was a combination of both. Bob is not beyound reproach so if Blu want to question whether Bob was blk so be it, no need to try to shut him down or get emotional, no sacred cows in Jamaica, if a man want reason let him reason, mouth mek fi chat. </div></div>

You know, I was on the bus this evening when my mind ran across this thread. I remembered the lashing Rita got(on this very board) when she made the claim that during her marriage Marley raped her. Why would she lie now, what would there be to gain?

We are talking about a guy who didn't have the scruples to consider his wife when he was busy screwing everything that moved leaving a plethora of tiny marleys along the way(maybe condoms and birth control weren't invented then [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smirk.gif[/img] ) so why would her claim not hold water? Granted the dead can't defend itself... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70402-thinking.gif[/img]

Anyway, that was off point. Back on. Today I overheard toronto's Classic Rock radio station(which I find ironic since the only black 'rockers' they play are bob marley [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/70456-eyebrows.gif[/img] and jimmy hendricks, when it is blacks who invented the artform and one mayn't classify include bluegrass ,which they constantly play, as rock :/) playing "buffalo soldier" and I thought that the very song is militant pro african and declares what he considers himself, atleast in that song, when he said "Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta:
There was a buffalo soldier in the heart of america,
Stolen from africa, brought to america,
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival.

I mean it, when I analyze the stench -
To me it makes a lot of sense:
How the dreadlock rasta was the buffalo soldier,
And he was taken from africa, brought to america,
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival.

Said he was a buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta -
Buffalo soldier in the heart of america.

If you know your history,
Then you would know where you coming from,
Then you wouldnt have to ask me,
Who the eck do I think I am.

Im just a buffalo soldier in the heart of america,
Stolen from africa, brought to america,Said he was fighting on arrival, fighting for survival;
Said he was a buffalo soldier win the war for america.

Dreadie, woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!
Woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!
Buffalo soldier troddin through the land, wo-ho-ooh!
Said he wanna ran, then you wanna hand,
Troddin through the land, yea-hea, yea-ea.

Said he was a buffalo soldier win the war for america;
Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta,
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival;
Driven from the mainland to the heart of the caribbean.

Singing, woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!
Woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!

Troddin through san juan in the arms of america;
Troddin through jamaica, a buffalo soldier# -
Fighting on arrival, fighting for survival:
Buffalo soldier, dreadlock rasta.

Woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!
Woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy,
Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy! /fadeout/
"

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yu kno donnika mii wass aggoo doo wan tredd cawl noo ooman noo cry bout marley views pon oomen. mii doan tink peeps pon yah readee fii dat yet

**blugiant** · 03-06-2007, 08:31 PM

Re: marley wass natt blakk

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

we're the survivors, yea
the BLACK survivors....
we AFRICANS will fight we find it necessary...
old pirates yes they rob I....
BLACKman redemption....
i'm BLACK and i'm comely...
weh dem want a white god/ well god come BLACK...

i guess these other marley quotes don't matter...

if he blindly takes the black man's side even when wrong i guess that would make him a hero in your eyes...
i guess your brother in africa who helped the white man to enslave us is a hero in your eyes as he happens to be black...
ok then </div></div>

qwestian jahyouth. y yu assoceeate da blakk side widd wrang. yu knoo mii natt inna hero worshipinn ting cah a man iss juss a mann. sah yu knoo y dem seh onlee rasta caan libarate blakk peeps iss cah rasta invent dem own vision aff a blakk godd fii blakk fii pray too. woo side do yu tink a blakk god deh pon. mzungu mekk jesus mzungu fii showw mzungu da color aff dem god

marley wass natt blakk

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