Thank you for the Cross Lord

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 10:47 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wikipedia:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The word cross was introduced to English in the 10th century as the term for the instrument of the torturous execution of Christ (gradually replacing the earlier word rood), ultimately from Latin crux, via Old Irish cros. The word can nowadays refer to the geometrical shape unrelated to its Christian significance. The Latin Crux (translating Greek stauros) was a Roman torture device used for crucifixion.</div></div>

So before the 10th century there was NO <span style="font-weight: bold">CROSS</span>.

How do you explain that?
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Can you come back tomorrow, or better yet, not at all? Why are you derailing or trying to derail the thread??? <span style="font-weight: bold"> What is YOUR concept of the Cross on which Jesus was crucified? WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">IT</span> MEAN OR SIGNIFY TO YOU???</span>

The Cross on which Jesus was crucified... THAT IS WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT..why does the Cross bother YOU so much? Did it hit a raw nerve????. </div></div>

"Thank you for the Cross Lord"
How am I derailing? Put your cross to the test. Gone are the days when people eat what is fed to them without applying some common sense.

I am referring to your Christian concept of the cross with my question. Before the 10th century there was no cross. Jesus is said to have died on a cross long before this period \ö/

I am amused while you seem to be bothered

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 10:59 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Geeez...one little picture on a web page has so much power?

Talk about the power of the Cross ....the scoffers have become so frazzled, dere tongues r just a-wagging bout pere irrelevant fooliniss. Mercy!!! Didn't mean to make the one likkle picksha mek oono fall haffah oono rocker..sorrie
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not so much the power of the cross as the power of imagery;
a false image of a european 'god' can be challenged if not historically accurate;
especially when that image perpetuates the sense of superiority in some and inferiority in others..
it's time that some get to see themselves as equal to the rest of humanity rather than the divine savior and source of all that is good on earth </div></div>

..and who are these "some"??? You should have left it alone...for posting a picture of a "black" Jesus shows that your ETHNO-CENTRICITY has blinded you to the fact that there are other ethnic groups who might be just as close-minded as you in their demand[s] for a Jesus that looks like them..so that knocks your stupid attempt at reason about "superiority/inferiority" out the window...Find me a picture of a Chinese/Japanese/Russian/Eskimo/ etc etc Jesus and I will retract my words...

Now, I will indulge you a likkle further...There is no such thing as an European "god" in *MY* book.. although you did not capitalise the word "God" and rightfully so..since there is no such<span style="font-weight: bold"> "being"</span> as a European "God'.

If we must argue any point, first we must agree on definition, and from reading this, it is evident that we are not on the same page...**chukkle** "a false image of a European "god""...whazz up bro? How can the image be false. **chukkle** if to the Europeans that is how their "god" looks? See the connundrum here? *words*

<span style="font-weight: bold">it's time that some get to see themselves as equal to the rest of humanity rather than the divine savior and source of all that is good on earth ..</span> are you sure that this is what you meant to say?

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 11:01 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wikipedia:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The word cross was introduced to English in the 10th century as the term for the instrument of the torturous execution of Christ (gradually replacing the earlier word rood), ultimately from Latin crux, via Old Irish cros. The word can nowadays refer to the geometrical shape unrelated to its Christian significance. The Latin Crux (translating Greek stauros) was a Roman torture device used for crucifixion.</div></div>

So before the 10th century there was NO <span style="font-weight: bold">CROSS</span>.

How do you explain that?
</div></div>

Can you come back tomorrow, or better yet, not at all? Why are you derailing or trying to derail the thread??? <span style="font-weight: bold"> What is YOUR concept of the Cross on which Jesus was crucified? WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">IT</span> MEAN OR SIGNIFY TO YOU???</span>

The Cross on which Jesus was crucified... THAT IS WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT..why does the Cross bother YOU so much? Did it hit a raw nerve????. </div></div>

"Thank you for the Cross Lord"
How am I derailing? Put your cross to the test. Gone are the days when people eat what is fed to them without applying some common sense.

I am referring to your Christian concept of the cross with my question. Before the 10th century there was no cross. Jesus is said to have died on a cross long before this period \ö/

I am amused while you seem to be bothered </div></div>

Again I ask you...WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN OR SIGNIFY TO YOUU???

WHY DOES IT SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH??

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 11:07 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
..and who are these "some"??? You should have left it alone...for posting a picture of a "black" Jesus shows that your ETHNO-CENTRICITY has blinded you to the fact that there are other ethnic groups who might be just as close-minded as you in their demand[s] for a Jesus that looks like them..so that knocks your stupid attempt at reason about "superiority/inferiority out the window...Find me a picture of a Chinese/Japanese/Russian/Eskimo/ etc etc Jesus and I will retract my words...</div></div>
smaddi pinch me quick quick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no such thing as an European "god" in *MY* book.. although you did not capitalise the word "God" and rightfully so..since there is no such<span style="font-weight: bold"> "being"</span> as an European "God'.</div></div>

pinch it

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If we must argue any point, first we must agree on definition, and from reading this, it is evident that we are not on the same page...**chukkle** "a false image of a European "god""...whazz up bro? How can the image be false. **chukkle** if to the Europeans that is how their "god" looks? See the connundrum here? *words* </div></div>
Christianity is not a European religion
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<span style="font-weight: bold">it's time that some get to see themselves as equal to the rest of humanity rather than the divine savior and source of all that is good on earth ..</span> are you sure that this is what you meant to say?
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Yes, yes, we all know why some black people love see Jesus

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 11:08 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Again I ask you...WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN OR SIGNIFY TO YOUU???

WHY DOES IT SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH?? </div></div>
It does not offend me, it is an opportunity

The cross means to me what you will find in a dictionary.

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 11:15 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

Sukuna, you still have not answered the questions: WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN TO YOU?

WHAT IS IT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO YOU?

Does the Cross hit a raw nerve for you?

WHY DOES THE CROSS SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH?

In your usual dishonesty, you twist what posters say to suit to your own aims..that is how you operate here...

Whoever said that Christianity is a European religion? WHO??? Point them out?

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 11:19 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Again I ask you...WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN OR SIGNIFY TO YOUU???

WHY DOES IT SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH?? </div></div>
It does not offend me, it is an opportunity

The cross means to me what you will find in a dictionary. </div></div>

*I* rest my case!!

Not worth it..

<span style="font-weight: bold">THANK YOU FOR THE CROSS LORD!!!</span>

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 11:26 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sukuna, you still have not answered the questions: WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN TO YOU?</div></div>
You answer my question about why there was no cross before the 10th century?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WHAT IS IT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO YOU?</div></div>
It is to me what it is to those communicating with me. If your cross round, a so it go. Wa yu na understand?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does the Cross hit a raw nerve for you?</div></div>
No

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
WHY DOES THE CROSS SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH?</div></div>
It doesnt. But a eh eh You a gwaan like say a vampire me be that when me see cross me get struck

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In your usual dishonesty, you twist what posters say to suit to your own aims..that is how you operate here...</div></div>
Really, you can use a knife fe be christian. Maybe a good question for you is why you think that I am dishonest and twist peoples' words around. Could your thoughts be wrong? Think about it

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Whoever said that Christianity is a European religion? WHO??? Point them out? </div></div>

Here it is
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If we must argue any point, first we must agree on definition, and from reading this, it is evident that we are not on the same page...**chukkle** "a false image of a European "god""...whazz up bro? How can the image be false. **chukkle** if to the Europeans that is how their "god" looks? See the connundrum here? *words*</div></div>

Try force me fe say 'No' so that you can say 'Yes'.
Mba

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 11:48 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sukuna, you still have not answered the questions: WHAT DOES <span style="font-weight: bold">THE</span> CROSS MEAN TO YOU?</div></div>
You answer my question about why there was no cross before the 10th century?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WHAT IS IT'S SIGNIFICANCE TO YOU?</div></div>
It is to me what it is to those communicating with me. If your cross round, a so it go. Wa yu na understand?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does the Cross hit a raw nerve for you?</div></div>
No

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
WHY DOES THE CROSS SEEM TO OFFEND YOU SO MUCH?</div></div>
It doesnt. But a eh eh You a gwaan like say a vampire me be that when me see cross me get struck

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
In your usual dishonesty, you twist what posters say to suit to your own aims..that is how you operate here...</div></div>
Really, you can use a knife fe be christian. Maybe a good question for you is why you think that I am dishonest and twist peoples' words around. Could your thoughts be wrong? Think about it

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Whoever said that Christianity is a European religion? WHO??? Point them out? </div></div>

Here it is
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If we must argue any point, first we must agree on definition, and from reading this, it is evident that we are not on the same page...**chukkle** "a false image of a European "god""...whazz up bro? How can the image be false. **chukkle** if to the Europeans that is how their "god" looks? See the connundrum here? *words*</div></div>

Try force me fe say 'No' so that you can say 'Yes'.
Mba </div></div>

I see that Reading Comprehension is NOT your forte; in the meantime, translator needed yahso...

Mi gaawn gawn worship at the Cross...may you walk in the light and NOT in darkness !!

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see that Reading Comprehension is NOT your forte; in the meantime, translator needed yahso...</div></div>
After all the rarara is because yu na understand me and parables

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Mi gaawn gawn worship at the Cross...may you walk in the light and NOT in darkness !!</div></div>
and carry it too

**britisha** · 04-10-2009, 11:58 AM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see that Reading Comprehension is NOT your forte; in the meantime, translator needed yahso...</div></div>
After all the rarara is because yu na understand me and parables

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Mi gaawn gawn worship at the Cross...may you walk in the light and NOT in darkness !!</div></div>
and carry it too </div></div>

**sistactry** · 04-10-2009, 01:01 PM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

this is soo disappointing, May God forgive unu,

first: unu dont have no manners what so ever....what is your ideas/views/concepts is yours and yours alone, its not to be thrown down the throats of others. The honourable thing to have done is go find your own space for that by opening your own thread

second: that would be to show some broughtupsy/manners and begin your own discussion in your OWN thread, and not into others, that in itself is total disrespect and stupid~

third: there is space for all - you see the open thread at the top, use it!

Britisha and Compray, please continue your praise and worship,

<span style="font-weight: bold"> Must Jesus bear the cross alone,
and all the world go free?
No, there's a cross for everyone,
and there's a cross for me.

How happy now the saints of God,
who once went sorrowing here;
they rest in joy, life's crown is theirs,
they know no pain nor tear.

They trod the path the Savior trod,
they bore the cross he bore;
and none may look to wear the crown
without the cross before.

Then help me, Lord, my cross to bear,
till death shall set me free,
and so at last obtain my crown,
for there's a crown for me.

</span>

**rufian** · 04-10-2009, 01:27 PM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

This is a nonsense to a height now
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
first: unu dont have no manners what so ever....what is your ideas/views/concepts is yours and yours alone, its not to be thrown down the throats of others.</div></div>
But wait, is blind you blind or wa? Is it not one view being thrown down peoples thoat and blocking all forms of discourse other than those in agreement with it? I beg your pardon!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The honourable thing to have done is go find your own space for that by opening your own thread</div></div>
so, all contra arguments belong in other thread. this is a bb
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
second: that would be to show some broughtupsy/manners and begin your own discussion in your OWN thread, and not into others, that in itself is total disrespect and stupid~ </div></div>
more onesidedness and nonsense again. With the cross I shall belittle all others and none shall touch me. Rubbish

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third: there is space for all - you see the open thread at the top, use it!
</div></div>
Or use some other form of communication like PM or conference or something

Rethink

**Compry** · 04-10-2009, 01:47 PM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

<span style="font-weight: bold">Just For Me!</span>

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What does the cross of Jesus mean?
it's more than songs we sing
much more than the emblem on your chain
but it means I am free
from the chains of slavery
and the blood he shed
won't let my sins remain

Upon the cross my savior died
the lamb was crucified
showed us love that
this world has never known
oh what love divine
truer love you'll never find
oh that we might live
love came and died alone

<span style="font-style: italic">Well the cross will always represent
the love God has for me
when the Lord of glory heaven sent
gave all on Calvary
(He did it) just for me, just for me
Jesus came and did it just for me
</span>

**sistactry** · 04-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Re: Thank you for the Cross Lord

ohh Compray, the peace we know from loving God~

THANK YOU JESUS~

bless you my sister~

Thank you for the Cross Lord

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