The Christian Guy and Non-Christian Females...

[Diplomat]

I am not sure if it is all in my mind, but for some reason, most of the females I know that seem to have it all together - so to speak - are non-christians. For the most part they are very confident/self-assured, have clearly defined goals with practical plans to accomplish those goals, and thier perspective on life is simply rather refreshing.

I often compare that with some Christian females who seem to have a "leave everything in God's hand" approach that suggests an abdication of responsibility for doing their part in the accomplishment of any goals and objectives. It reminds me of Luke 16:8b: "...for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

Is it possible that such a perception may be the reason some Christian females seem not to attract the "right" types? In a casual conversation with some other Christain guys, it was interesting to see how many were attracted to a non-christian female (though they had no intentions of dating them). Is it possible that the laid-back approach (to even approaching a guy they are interested in) and seeming indifference is a major turn off? Just curious as to what others thought.

[mountaingal]

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Intersting question, CEW. I'm confused a little, though - I thought the let-go-and-let-God approach held by Christian women IS an example of them having it together, from a Christian perspective. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Guest]

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Nevermind...I noticed the "some" and "most". Carry on.

[Diplomat]

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Originally posted by mountaingal:
...I'm confused a little, though - I thought the let-go-and-let-God approach held by Christian women IS an example of them having it together, from a Christian perspective. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Not necessarily, and the problem is that to their detriment, some have taken that to the literal extreme. It is true that the Christian - regardless of gender - is encouraged to seek the will of God, however at the same time there are things in our lives that we are responsible for. For example, there is an abundance of single Christian women who seem to not realize that going back to school / getting some courses done while they are able to is not a bad thing. It is as if God is going to simply move them out of a low paying job into a higher paying one, and while it is not impossible, it removes personal responsibilty in recognizing that we owe it to ourselves, and to God, to be the best we can be in all areas.

[Guest]

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Are you saying they are using the faith without works method? Just trying to understand where you're heading.

[Dailybread]

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Originally posted by CEW:
[qb] I am not sure if it is all in my mind, but for some reason, most of the females I know that seem to have it all together - so to speak - are non-christians. For the most part they are very confident/self-assured, have clearly defined goals with practical plans to accomplish those goals, and thier perspective on life is simply rather refreshing.

I often compare that with some Christian females who seem to have a "leave everything in God's hand" approach that suggests an abdication of responsibility for doing their part in the accomplishment of any goals and objectives. It reminds me of Luke 16:8b: "...for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

Is it possible that such a perception may be the reason some Christian females seem not to attract the "right" types? In a casual conversation with some other Christain guys, it was interesting to see how many were attracted to a non-christian female (though they had no intentions of dating them). Is it possible that the laid-back approach (to even approaching a guy they are interested in) and seeming indifference is a major turn off? Just curious as to what others thought. [/qb]

I find that to be true to a great extent for some Christians (not limited to women). I call them lazy Christians


On another note, some of the christian are ignorant to God's requirement of 'putting it in his hands' (this can partially be blamed on the teaching they've received). The Bible says occupy until I come. This to me means that we should go about living. However considering God as our guide.

The non Christian have to make their goals and attempt to achieve them on their own because they don't know God as their provider. The Christian needs (although some have)to adapt this priciple of knowing that if it's going to bring glory to God there is nothing wrong in going after it.

Maybe, they are just waiting on manna to fall again.... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Diplomat]

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Originally posted by Compry:
Are you saying they are using the faith without works method? Just trying to understand where you're heading.

I didn't think about it that way initially, but now that you have mentioned it, yes. I am not headed anywhere though. Just my observations and experience.

[Tropicana]

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most of the females I know that seem to have it all together - so to speak - are non-christians. For the most part they are very confident/self-assured, have clearly defined goals with practical plans to accomplish those goals, and thier perspective on life is simply rather refreshing.

I often compare that with some Christian females who seem to have a "leave everything in God's hand" approach that suggests an abdication of responsibility for doing their part in the accomplishment of any goals and objectives. It reminds me of Luke 16:8b: "...for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

Is it possible that such a perception may be the reason some Christian females seem not to attract the "right" types?

Interesting thread. I have posed some similar comments in the thread I started with Special Questoins for Jamaican women.

I am a Christian woman but a lot of the qualities you have described that non-Christian womenn possess describe me to a T. I am not one of these sit back and leave it in the hands of the Lord types. I feel He gave us a brain, hands, arms, legs, and feet for a purpose. We are to use them....pray yes but also do our part. Having said all of this, these qualities have NOT helped me attract the right kind of Christian guy. So I don't think that is the problem.

[Diplomat]

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Tropi: I am sure you noticed the words "most" and "some" in the thread, so it stands to reason that whatever is being discussed here is not applicable to all Christian females. I am simply looking this as a Christian male from some general observations and personal experience.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by CEW:
[qb]

Originally posted by Compry:
Are you saying they are using the faith without works method? Just trying to understand where you're heading.

I didn't think about it that way initially, but now that you have mentioned it, yes. [/qb]

OK, in that case, it's a combination of a couple things. Dem lazy and dem nuh really know God.

How will you learn to swim if you don't get into the pool or sea?

[Diplomat]

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Originally posted by Dailybread:
...The non Christian have to make their goals and attempt to achieve them on their own because they don't know God as their provider. The Christian needs (although some have)to adapt this priciple of knowing that if it's going to bring glory to God there is nothing wrong in going after it.

The rain does fall on the just and the unjust, so we have to be careful with the notion that non-Christians are not beneficiaries of God's goodness. It is true that the absence of a personal relationship hinders them from walking in full abundance, but some of them are far more skilled in the application of the Word, as they know it perhaps from their days in Sunday School, that some believers are.

Maybe, they are just waiting on manna to fall again....

True enough, but the people still had to go out and gather it themselves [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Tropicana]

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Yes I did notice the words some and most but that does not change my comments. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

The women I know who have the qualities you described in abundance do not exactly have Christian men flocking to their door.

[Diplomat]

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Originally posted by Compry:
...OK, in that case, it's a combination of a couple things. Dem lazy and dem nuh really know God.

How will you learn to swim if you don't get into the pool or sea?

But going into the pool - or getting out of the boat as I like to think of it - requires the application of what they know. I wouldn't go as far as saying they do not know God. I would think that like the other disciples in the boat, they have a form of godliness but totally ignorant of the power thereof, hence they do not apply the necessary principles.

[Dailybread]

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Originally posted by Compry:
OK, in that case, it's a combination of a couple things. Dem lazy and dem nuh really know God.

How will you learn to swim if you don't get into the pool or sea? [/QB]

lol! you are too funny!

[Dailybread]

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Originally posted by CEW:
[qb]True enough, but the people still had to go out and gather it themselves [img]/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/qb]

Nodding in agreement! Could it be a teaching problem in various doctrins [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]