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From Malvo to Marley, when we do things we do it big.
They're just haters.
From Malvo to Marley, when we do things we do it big.
They're just haters.
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Re: ..reality check.. does other west indians really despises Jamaicans?..
is because we actually have accents dat odder people can understand...when dem ready dem will sing song u to death wid fi dem accent..Comment
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Can you say "inferiority complex" .Comment
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I first experienced this when I was in college. I just could not fathom why these other caribbean nationals, particularly Trinidadians, would make it their duty to tell me how disgusting Jamaicans were, as if this would make me feel less proud about being a Jamaican. But at the same time, they were the same ones going crazy over Jamaican men.
There was this Trinidadian girl who I had to accomodate at my place once (since she had nowhere else to stay), and while she was there, she would constantly speak badly about Jamaicans. I totally ignored her because I think it's complete jealousy. I believe that it's only a small number of Jamaicans that behave badly abroad. In my opinion, most of us are ambitious, bright, hardworking and successful people. We usually stand out.
Do you guys remember that Trinidadian politician who made that bad remark about Lee Chin from AIC and NCB and about Jamaicans investing in their country? Now, is Lee Chin going around killing or hurting people? This was clearly jealousy.
I find it easier to ignore these ignorant fools because they are obviously seeking attention. Why give it to them? It's probably best to say: "Okay, and your point is? Could we discuss something else please?"Comment
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[img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] help me understand the above, you are a jamaican and someone making disparaging remarks about jamaicans, she was homeless and you took her in and she made a remark like that and you did not kick her to the curb instantly [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Someone in my home and making disparaging remarks about Canadians and I am Canadian kick you out instantly.damn brite and houtta horda [img]/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] but then each to their....There was this Trinidadian girl who I had to accomodate at my place once (since she had nowhere else to stay), and while she was there, she would constantly speak badly about Jamaicans. I totally ignored her because I think it's complete jealousy
Go find accomodation at a shelter some people chaComment
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Intresting inputs, so obviously its not localized to my environment.
Its funny, this morning as I drove thru Oakville I saw a park named "Donovan Bailey Park" . Now Oakvile is known to have a very racist recent past, I think I even read about a recent KKK story and how they killed a interacial couple in that area.
To see that as much as they would try to, they had to recognize a Jamaican with a park (a small one still.. yuh can spit from one end to the next), yet still us Jamaicans "give black people bad name"..
Just an example still. Look at people like Alvin Curlin.. A mean the man got the highest votes for a riding in Canada's history.. Wi dont know dem things deh?
According to my St. Vincent friend, "as soon as a Jamaican do anything good, unno blow it outta proportion" ??!!
Funny thing is, just like Rushy's friend, this girl also ONLY deals with Jamaican men. Talk about freaking psychopaths..Comment
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I definitely had some regrets about that, but hey...yuh live and yuh learnOriginally posted by damask:
[qb][img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] help me understand the above, you are a jamaican and someone making disparaging remarks about jamaicans, she was homeless and you took her in and she made a remark like that and you did not kick her to the curb instantly [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Someone in my home and making disparaging remarks about Canadians and I am Canadian kick you out instantly.damn brite and houtta horda [img]/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] but then each to their....There was this Trinidadian girl who I had to accomodate at my place once (since she had nowhere else to stay), and while she was there, she would constantly speak badly about Jamaicans. I totally ignored her because I think it's complete jealousy
Go find accomodation at a shelter some people cha [/qb]Comment
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What's this thing about Jamaicans and Haitians anyway? Why do boat people from Haiti make Jamaica their destination when they are not wanted there?Comment
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dont get mi wrong.. di intention is not to bring down wi fellow West Indians. many has chosen to unfairly generalize us, lets not do the same, but at the same time we not hiding we head in the sand.
As far as mi concern, the northern media has done a decent job on deviding and conquering us. We need fi break that and unite.
One comment that sticks in mi brain was "look how Jamaica little and unno have the highest crime rate?.. all unno do is kill unno one aneda"..Comment
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I don't think other WEst Indians really hate Jamaicans. Jamaican culture is big in St.Kitts and other parts of the Caribbean - the music, food, patois, the Rastafarian culture etc. They do acknowledge that Jamaicans have a reputation though. When I was dating a Jamaican a lot of people advised me against it because of the 'reputation of Jamaican men'. They acknowledge the violence in Jamaican society which is a lot higher than most other WEst indian islands etc.
With regard to the crime, a lot of it might be the media. Whenever we hear news out of Jamaica, it has to do with crime and violence, police officers getting shot etc. You tend to have the perception after a while that Jamaica is just a hotbed of crime.
Our social club at work went to Jamaica last week during Whit Monday and LOVED it. They all said how beautiful Jamaica was, how developed..they raved on about the food and the music and so on. And they all said that it was nothing like what they expected.
So maybe it's just a lack of information too.Comment
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Leh me preface dis comment wid a likkle background.
I think I have a both-perspectives answer to this, cos I'm both- Jamaican and 'other West Indian'- Barbadian.
To be honest, I've lived in Barbados most of my life, but I went to university in JA and it was the best time of my life. I loved it and I love JA- my wonderful, dreadful, schizo other island. :love:
But! Jamaicans are bloody arrogant.
No lotta long talk, no sugar-coating it, I telling wunna plain. Jamaicans can be very arrogant, tend to be condescending, especially of the other smaller islands and they tend to be insular no rhatid. The insularity is not neccesarily Jamaicans' fault, because geographically they are far from the rest of the English speaking C'bean. It ent like here in de E.C. where we can hop a plane and reach another island in half hour and there is a lot of back and forth between the islands.
But! Jamaicans still tend to look north before they look south- even reading the Gleaner and the Observer, one of the things that used to frustrate me was how little C'bean news there was compared to what I was used to 'back home'.
Jamaicans tend to be woefully uninformed and often close-minded about the culture of the other islands in the Caribbean and it galls the rest of us (or dem) because we are in tune with JA culture. Dancehall music does be licking down every day in we part and then when we go a session in Kingston, if u hear de yardie dem cuss and gwan bad if soca play for 2 seconds. It's insulting.
Another reason why many other West Indians are not thrilled by yardies- you have to admit it is true that almost as much as Jamaicans make the Caribbean 'look good' by their accomplishments, they make it 'look bad' by their misdeeds... and more yardies out deh misdeeding (i know it ent a word) [img]/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] than other nationalities, but people 'up north' will categorise all West Indians as Jamaicans... and often it ent in a complimentary way.
And last of all...Jamaicans can be damn unfriendly. Not all, especially not country people, but Kingstonians especially I find dem hard man! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/70361-embarassed.gif[/img] Perhaps it is that the reality of Kgn has made them unfriendly and cold, but when I came from the E.C. and I walk pun de road and say 'good morning' to people and dem look me back in my face and pass me like a full bus... I was shocked. Coming from smaller islands, we're used to people making eye contact with you on the road so they can greet you. In Kingston, people just... look pon yu, but dem nuh say NUTTEN!
I say this with all the love, because I have many Jamaican friends and family but it is all true, true, true and that is why a lot of other West Indians tend not to like yardies.
Just look at some of the comments on this board- they are so typical. 'Dem jealous a we cos we have fame and reputation' and rae, rae,rae...
When I used to get this in JA, I used to just bite my lips and hold strain cos if mi did leggo pon dem bout why mi coulda neva jealous of JA as a Barbadian and why it should be the other way around, it woulda come off as cruel. Cos de things Jamaicans tell other West Indians they should be jealous of are essentially superficial- the cultural/athletic accomplishments of others, not the social/political accomplishments of the society on the whole like... say, Barbados. [img]/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
awoah! dis lang... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]Comment
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"Sometimes, I feel discriminated against, but it does not make me angry. It merely astonishes me. How can anyone deny themselves the pleasure of my company? It's beyond me." - Zora Neale HurstonOriginally posted by Xks:
[qb] Living in Jamaica, it was more a joke to me than anything else when I'd see the beauracracy Jamaicans faced when trying to enter other Caribbean nations, but vica-versa, it wasnt that difficult.
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Sorry bajanyardie, i hadn't read your post b4 I posted.
I am 'merican, so mi nuh know what ie really like inna di caribbean.
Those are interesting points you made. I hope your points will be given due consideration.Comment
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Bajanyardie,
Those are exactly the points that my ex wife used to raise when she went off on a rant about Jamaicans. The irony is that my fiancee, who is Jamaican, tells me about the arrogance of the Trinis and the Bajans. As a Puerto Rican, I stay out of these arguments mostly but its curious that the animosity between islands might ultimately limit them from reaching potential greatness as a unified, politically aware, region.Comment
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