Is this Jamaican Govt worth all our tax money?

[swingcat]

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Dr Dudd: You say the reason Jamaica is in the position it is is they will not accede to the US before the US gives aid and comfort. It is a new generation on the Island than the one I grew up to love. Now Generation wants it cake and eat it too. Of course you must do something to get something. The new generation does not want to work for anything. Just thugs, criminals. Thieves. What happen to morals.?

[swingcat]

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I just want to know when the women on the Island will stand up and say, Enough is enough. Men take no responsibility for the children they bring into the world. They abandon them to grow up uneducated, hungry beggars. You must take responsibility for your actions. You must learn to respect your women again. This generations has lost its mind. It won't work. Drugs and thieves. Beggars on a good day. Beggars are keeping tourists away. Your police are for the most part hard working and honest. But, just as the US and every where there are a few bad apples. Women must sieze the moment and return Jamaica to the land of Love we all remember.

[Ja. Jewel]

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Lover, I've been living in Ja. for 2+ months now and am amongst Jamaicans. We have many reasoning sessions about the crime & murders...don't think not one would agree with you about your statement about MOST police are honest....all I've heard are that they are the WORST of the criminals, because they work with them. Most all people I know will not give police any info. for fear of their lives!

[swingcat]

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Ja Jewell: One bad apple can spoil the whole crate.
I too live in J for 6 months every year. I do remember before Independence from England a kinder, gentler Island. I also agree the dishonest police are the worst (just as they are in the US and everywhere else). However; I personally know police who are hard working, family men. Lets not through the baby out with the bath water. Pray the bad apples are weeded out. I also agree that many are so leary of the cops they will not cooperate out of fear of reprisal. Same all over the world.
The crime, treatment of women, beggars and more are keeping tourist off the Island. The powers to be could not steal while under British control so they were as happy as the British when they wanted their independence in the 70's. Jamaicans still have the ballot and can vote out the corruption. They too have the power to clean up the police department. I pray for the Island to be the land of love again.
Men take no responsibility for the children they bring into the world. Thieves, beggars are keeping tourists away. Again, pray for these children and the Island to return even better than ever. One step at a time, rid the Island of the corruption from Patterson on down. Do it at the ballot box, not with guns. Pray for the Island of Love...

[swingcat]

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Education, education, education. That is the answer for the children of the Island of Love.
This generation is fixated on drugs, guns, abusing women and children, hunger and beggars.
The social services for the children and women are completely inept and corrupt. Of course they are bound by the little money trickled down to them by the administration of PJ. Believe me; there is very little left after the corruption for infrastructure, education, needy, job creation and all the basics to build a good life for the future of the children.

[swingcat]

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DR Dudd: sept 12 you say the gun and crime are because of the unemployment and lack of opportunity. Education is the only answer. Do not repeat this generation. The main production of the Island now is criminals. But they have no opportunity, hence no alternative.
Every society faces this problem. Its answer lies in the morals taught to the children. Teach love not violence and never let a neighbor go hungry. That is what the Island of Love used to believe.

[Dr.Dudd]

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Originally posted by lover of jamaica land:
[qb] DR Dudd: sept 12 you say the gun and crime are because of the unemployment and lack of opportunity. Education is the only answer. Do not repeat this generation. The main production of the Island now is criminals. But they have no opportunity, hence no alternative.
Every society faces this problem. Its answer lies in the morals taught to the children. Teach love not violence and never let a neighbor go hungry. That is what the Island of Love used to believe. [/qb]

Do you think that Jamaican children have any more need for ,oral training that American children?

Let me tell you a secret,at the play offs between the Yankees and the Boston Red Sox that was played in Boston. The had to use 900 police officers and that is for an event that does not involve the feeding and suppoer of their family.
It was pnly a bame, yet they needed that many police officers.
Still believe you can advise me about what is Jamaica's problem?

Ot os not the morals of Americans that result in lower murder rate,and it is not the morals of Jamaicans wgy the murder rate is so high in Jamaica.
In the US it is all abouitv the country being able to afford adequate policing,and in Jamaica it ios all about the country not being able to afford adequate policing.
You also state that education will solve the Jamaican problem. I say it will help.but not as much as improving the productivity of Jamaicans to the point where their incime will be able to support the tax base that will be able to support the level of policing that isrequired.
The majority of uneducated JamaicANS IS QYITE ABLE TO FUNCTION IN SKILLS THAT COULD SUPPORT NUCH HIGHER INCOME THAN IS NOW PAID IN THE COUNTTY.
EDUCATING THEM WILL NOT MAKE THEM EARN ANY MORE,BECAUSE THE JOBS THAT THEY CAN FILL WILL BE THE JONS THAT ARR THERE,AND UNL;ESS THE NATURE OF THE JOBS CHANGE,THEY WILL SIMPLY MIGRATE,AND THOSE WHO ARE LEFT WILL BE IN THE SAME POSITIOn.


Capslock error.

[Dr.Dudd]

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Originally posted by lover of jamaica land:
[qb] Dr Dudd: You say the reason Jamaica is in the position it is is they will not accede to the US before the US gives aid and comfort. It is a new generation on the Island than the one I grew up to love. Now Generation wants it cake and eat it too. Of course you must do something to get something. The new generation does not want to work for anything. Just thugs, criminals. Thieves. What happen to morals.? [/qb]

How woild you like some one to come here and post that rubbish you post about Americans?
You seem to think that because you visit a country you have the rioght to come and judge them. Yet you don'r seem to have the time to do that in your country.
I did not say niothing of the sort. I stated in response to you expounding about if Jamaica did what the US wanted they would not have hiog grime. I stated that a Promise is a comfort only to a fool. Jamaicans do not really count on promises. There is a Jamaican sayinf that one bird in hand is better than a thousand you will get.

[Dr.Dudd]

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Originally posted by lover of jamaica land:
[qb] Ja Jewell: One bad apple can spoil the whole crate.
I too live in J for 6 months every year. I do remember before Independence from England a kinder, gentler Island. I also agree the dishonest police are the worst (just as they are in the US and everywhere else). However; I personally know police who are hard working, family men. Lets not through the baby out with the bath water. Pray the bad apples are weeded out. I also agree that many are so leary of the cops they will not cooperate out of fear of reprisal. Same all over the world.
The crime, treatment of women, beggars and more are keeping tourist off the Island. The powers to be could not steal while under British control so they were as happy as the British when they wanted their independence in the 70's. Jamaicans still have the ballot and can vote out the corruption. They too have the power to clean up the police department. I pray for the Island to be the land of love again.
Men take no responsibility for the children they bring into the world. Thieves, beggars are keeping tourists away. Again, pray for these children and the Island to return even better than ever. One step at a time, rid the Island of the corruption from Patterson on down. Do it at the ballot box, not with guns. Pray for the Island of Love... [/qb]

Ohh,I see where you are coming from!!
Pre independence,when the majority of Jamaicans could not work in hotels fromt desk,or in banks,or even as store clerks!
We will rather have short lives as men and women,that to return to the days of aparthied a,d be somebody's boy and girl.
If you think that we will accept colonialism either by UK US or any other power,you have something coming.
Talking rubbish abiut Jamaicans were happy unfer the Btits?
What a way you know how we think!!
You still think that you know Jamaicans eh?/
You are in for the shock of your life.
So we were happy under the Brits You really think that you know every Jamaican you come in contast with eh!!
You think that the same view thay goive you on a topioc is the view they give their family?

[swingcat]

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Your saying honesty is theproblem?

[swingcat]

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Your saying honesty is theproblem?

[Dr.Dudd]

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Originally posted by lover of jamaica land:
[qb] Your saying honesty is theproblem? [/qb]

No honesty is not the problem,but what is in play is the need to eat and support their family.
Durely if you know that a person is willing to mortally harm you on the basis of a statement you make,youi wouldn't be considered dishonest not to make that statement in their presence.
Like you know that the truth is that your boss is a noo good,would you be dishonest not to tell him so?
Well why is it different when a Jamaican does it?
You don't think that they are siphisticated enough to be assesed as anything but dishomest,because they do the same you would have done under similar circumstance?

It is the same as a fisherman baiting his traps.
Yo the fishes,he is feeding them,is he dishonest,behave as if he intend to feed the fishes,although he intend that they become somebofy's food?
Well the Jamaicans are not dishomest.
They just do what is necessary to survive.
In Jamaica there is a saying that ine has to do what is necessART TO SURVIVE,UNTIL THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO TO LIVE.

[swingcat]

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So murder, rape and crime are ok in your mind on the Island?

[swingcat]

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So murder, rape and crime are ok in your mind on the Island?

[Dr.Dudd]

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Murder rape and crime is everywhere as a matter of fact Jamaica has the highest murder rate in the Caribbean,but it's crime rate is luch lower than the majority of countriers.
I am sure you did not realize the latter
What would it matter any way,since you have no solutiin to the problem.