Trini dishes it to Jamaica....Ministry strikes back

**johnnycakes** · 07-07-2009, 10:35 AM

Re: Trini dishes it to Jamaica....Ministry strikes back

".......Moreover, he speaks of social conditions which are prevalent throughout the region,"

Rubbish.
The murder and violence rates are the same in the Bahamas, Cuba anywhere else in the Caribbean area (with the possible exception of Colombia) as they are in Jamaica?

Where are the statistics to counter the article/program in contention?

The counter article was a lot of nothing but saying "Why didn't they talk to the various Jamaican ministry officials?"
I'm sure those officials would have said anything to deny what was said.

Where are the statistics and problems enumerated by the program series and where is the list of counter arguments?

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 12:48 PM

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http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/the-secret-caribbean-with-trevor-mcdonald/

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 12:58 PM

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*I* love this. taken from link

Commplain: The Secret Caribbean with Trevor McDonald
I was disgusted by the program I saw called 'Secrets of Caribbean' with Trevor McDonald. Thought it was a false representation of Jamaica - aren't they all? So guess what I did? I complained to their EDITED Not the first time I've complained about a program mind you.

Here is what I sent them

Dear Sir/Madam,

I'm writing this email as feedback of The Secret Caribbean with Trevor McDonald show which was screened last night (5 July 2009) on ITV1 at 8pm. When I first heard this episode involved going to Jamaica, in line with the show being called 'Secret' I anticipated a side of Jamaica which isn't the normal angle we see on every show concerning the most popularly known island across the world

At the very least I expected the program to showcase how the normal, vibrant Jamaican lives. A life consisting of agriculture, picturesque landscape and hospitable people cooking and serving rich flavoured world-famous cuisines. The home of Jerk Chicken is Jamaica. I emphasise: at the very least. Even if the obvious is shown, the rich history of Reggae music could have played a more prominant role; a genre which has the output and influence much bigger than the islands reasonably small landspace. Maybe even include the recent success of the Athletics team.

However, as per usual I set my standards way too high. Unlike the other islands who actually had an interesting concept behind them,pb] yet again we were fed the predictable, not-even-yawn-worthy bore "Island of guns and drugs" doused in crime statistics with Blue Mountain coffee thrown in like an after thought as to give a balance.[/b] There are many more interesting tourist locations the average person doesn't know about, such as Rose Hill, YS Falls, Rick's Cafe - if you thought they may have been too obscure surely Dunns River would have sufficed.

As a journalist myself, I know lazy journalism when I see it. In fact it was so lazy, the usually very knowledgeable and seasoned professional Sir Trevor McDonald managed to mistakenly say Bob Marley was shot as a result of gang violence when it is well-known that it was politically motivated. Edward Seaga (JLP) and Michael Manley (PNP) shook hands at a concert days later in what was an significant moment in Jamaican history.
Trinidad and Tobago has a problem with organised crime and cast division/racism, yet, it focused on the positives as I understand. However, if you wanted to show the SECRET, it may have been more apt for you to show the side we don't see of both islands.

In conclusion, I would like to know the thought process behind this program and where the SECRET bit was. I think I missed it somewhere between the obvious being stated. To top it off, when I went into work today, a few of my work collegues were talking about the program which lead to one lady making a comment to the effect of: "It's because of Jamaicans why we have a gang problem over here isn't it?". Now if that was the point of the program I begrudgingly congratulate you. In a twisted way I guess you made your point.

Should you need someone to help make an accurate depiction of The REAL Jamaica, don't be afraid to email me.

Aniticipating your response,

Marvin Sparks

If you want to watch it, search it. I aint posting that on here. If I get a response I'll post it.

p.s. one day, this blog will come back to haunt me, but honesty shouldn't kill anyone.
Posted by Marvin Sparks at 22:19

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 01:10 PM

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*chukkle* aaah sah..."lazy journalism"

Mi deyah a wondah hiff diss agguh resureck the ole feud that had existed between Trinis and Jamaicans since we pulled out of the Federation.

Looks as if they never really made us forget it.

Although this is a one man mouthpiece, considering what's in the news lately bout Trini's attitude towards Jamaica, even in Caricom, I wouldn't be surprised.

Suffice it to say, when it comes on to crime Jamaica has imitated TnT in many areas such as kidnappings, and di truth even cum hout that they have surpassed Jamaica in murder.

Be that as it may, dat noh seh wi shudda shoot di messengah...for while the truth hurts a still di truth...him shuddah provide balance and talk wha really a gwaan innah Trinidad where co...ies hate the blacks for starters.

So much for a society that is stable and cohesive..

More that I can and will say when time permits..

tbc

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 05:08 PM

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Trinidad-born journalist Sir Trevor McDonald's three-part television series
portraying Jamaica as a poverty-stricken country blighted by violence and drugs has come under heavy condemnation from the Ministry of Tourism and the Caribbean diaspora in the United Kingdom.

...if is the "entire" Caribbean diaspora that were offended, then mebbie what was said is really offensive.

The question should become what should motivate the "Sir" to embark on such a tongue lashing of Jamaica?

Afterall from looking at CIN TV here on many Sundays, life in Trinidad doesn't look all that sweet an hunky dori...dem all a show lean tuh wid wood jalousies, talk about the trappings of poverty, so why strike out at Jamaica?

Many from TnT seh dem naah goh back home for dem noh waan nobaddie kidnap dem, nor dem picknie, in fack di fren whey mi a talk bout, is wha har modda tel her, not to cum home..

A TnT friend of mine whose mother fell and broke her hand waited for over 6 weeks for surgery, because sinting about the hardware that would be needed to repair the fracture was unavailable. She had to seek the help of a former schoolmate in Govt.,to talk with di docks before the surgery could be done..

Then almost 5 weeks before could she got a physical therapy appointment? Now wan han shawtah dan di oddah..

Doesn't that spell a poor nation? A nation defunct in funds to take care of basic needs like emergency surgery?..in the great TnT with all it's pitch lake and oil an bettah foreign exchange rate.

Anadda friend of mine, dem slaughtered the brother and his wife like animals in a blood bath... bout two years ago...she still reeling from the trauma...soh? Dem noh liff innah glass house tuh?

So while Jamaica has a multi-tiered society where the marginalized suffah, TnT noh seem to a gwaan wid nutt'n...so wha cuddah posses this man fi lash hout pan dem Sistah Caricom nation soh? One good ting about dem, dem did apprehend and tried wan of fi dem alleged "teefing" Prime Minister for teefing from di coffers...dat one they have up on poor[er] Jamaica..oddah dan dat.

Bwouy, all mi agguh seh, til more comes out..for mi haffie goh talk wid mi teee n tee frens..dere is more to this than meets the eye. A hope noh bad blood and old wounds noh open hup ovah dis.

don't shoot di messenjah

**jah_yout** · 07-07-2009, 05:17 PM

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there's a thread going on this in GD

Page not found - Jamaicans and Jamaica - Jamaicans.com

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1003623#Post1003623

personally i find it curious that with the problems going on in trinidad as we speak he would choose to do such a negative report on a fellow caricom island in a foreign land

**jah_yout** · 07-07-2009, 05:22 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trinidad-born journalist Sir Trevor McDonald's three-part television series
portraying Jamaica as a poverty-stricken country blighted by violence and drugs has come under heavy condemnation from the Ministry of Tourism and the Caribbean diaspora in the United Kingdom.

...if is the "entire" Caribbean diaspora that were offended, then mebbie what was said is really offensive.

The question should become what should motivate the "Sir" to embark on such a tongue lashing of Jamaica?

Afterall from looking at CIN TV here on many Sundays, life in Trinidad doesn't look all that sweet an hunky dori...dem all a show lean tuh wid wood jalousies, talk about the trappings of poverty, so why strike out at Jamaica?

Many from TnT seh dem naah goh back home for dem noh waan nobaddie kidnap dem, nor dem picknie, in fack di fren whey mi a talk bout, is wha har modda tel her, not to cum home..

A TnT friend of mine whose mother fell and broke her hand waited for over 6 weeks for surgery, because sinting about the hardware that would be needed to repair the fracture was unaivalable. She had to seek the help of a former schoolmate in Govt.,to talk with di docks before the surgery could be done..

Then almost 5 weeks before could she got a physical therapy appointment? Now wan han shawtah dan di oddah..

Doesn't that spell a poor nation? A nation defunct in funds to take care of basic needs like emergency surgery?..in the great TnT with all it's pitch lake and oil an bettah foreign exchange rate.

Anadda friend of mine, dem slaughtered the brother and his wife like animals in a blood bath... bout two years ago...she still reeling from the trauma...soh? Dem noh liff innah glass house tuh?

So while Jamaica has a multi-tiered society where the marginalized suffah, TnT noh seem to a gwaan wid nutt'n...so wha cuddah posses this man fi lash hout pan dem Sistah Caricom nation soh? One good ting about dem, dem did apprehend and tried wan of fi dem alleged "teefing" Prime Minister for teefing from di coffers...dat one they have up on poo[er] Jamaica..oddah dan dat.

Bwouy, all mi agguh seh, til more comes out..for mi haffie goh talk wid mi teee n tee frens..dere is more to this than meets the eye. A hope noh bad blood and old wounds noh open hup ovah dis.

don't shoot di messenjah </div></div>

good points

**johnnycakes** · 07-07-2009, 07:47 PM

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Go back to the other thread on this and read Tuff Gong's posts.

He asked that why should the reporter have to go to the various Jamaican government ministries and the point is that what can one expect to get from them? Denials and attempts to mitigate the bad news that everyone already knows is true.

Rather than address the bad "news" by trying to rectify those problems; coming up with the solutions people are upset and are shooting the messenger and pointing fingers at T&T.

It is addressing the symptoms of the problems rather than the cause.

As usual.

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 08:35 PM

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From heresoh

I would be filled with trepidation as well to visit TnT after reading news as this...so mi noh blame him, di "Sir" fi seh dat..howevah..

Suspect found dead
Tecia's murder
Gyasi Gonzales [email protected]

Tuesday, July 7th 2009

Flashback June 2009: Ricardo "Docs" McCarthy, centre, is led away by officers after he was held for questioning following the discovery of Tecia Henry's body at Block Eight, Laventille, on June 17. -Photo: ANISTO ALVES

ONE of the men who was questioned following last month's murder of ten-year-old Tecia Henry was found dead early yesterday morning, off a track in Belle Vue Terrace, Long Circular, St James.

The man was identified as Ricardo "Docs" McCarthy, 47, who lived at Block Eight, Laventille.

He was described by the police as a reputed gang leader, but the police also told the Express yesterday that they were in a "bit of a quandary" as to the motive for his killing, although over the years a number of people had tried to kill him but had all failed.

Police said sometime after 10.30 p.m. on Sunday, residents of Belle Vue heard gunshots, but did not venture outside to investigate. Around 6.30 a.m. yesterday, someone found McCarthy's bullet-riddled corpse and contacted the police.

A team of investigators, including Insp Henry Dann, were among the first officers on the scene.

His killing took the murder toll to 282 for the year.

There was not much surprise after word crept out that McCarthy had been killed.

Back in March 2005, McCarthy, his wife and their then two-year-old daughter came under heavy gunfire moments after McCarthy collected a URP cheque at a field office near the Police Traffic Branch in Port of Spain.

McCarthy was shot twice-in the shoulder and ankle. His daughter, Abina, was shot in the chest and, now eight, is paralysed as a result of the injuries she received that day.

Back in April 2005, McCarthy's son, Oba Jones, was shot dead on the Brian Lara Promenade in broad daylight after he left a bank.

In May 2006, McCarthy's brother, Anthony McCarthy, a foreman with the URP, was shot dead while returning to his Plaisance Terrace, John John apartment. That case was solved as well.

Yesterday morning, three women were at the Forensic Science Centre in St James in the interest of McCarthy, but none of them had anything to say.

Homicide Bureau officers are continuing investigations.

Henry was a Standard Four pupil of St Rose's Girls' Primary School in Port of Spain. She was reported missing on June 13, after her mother sent her on an errand to purchase items at a nearby shop in John John. A search was mounted for her within the area but was unsuccessful. On June 17, the child's body was found stuffed in a hole below an abandoned house, which is located a few metres from her home. An autopsy revealed she had been strangled.

**britisha** · 07-07-2009, 08:43 PM

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Am I missing something here? Still trying to understand the motive.

From di same site:

Caught in crossfire: youth shot dead
-Gyasi Gonzales


$14m drug bust: jobless accused denied bail

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Teen killed while playing peacemaker

A DIEGO MARTIN teenager was killed while playing peacemaker in a fight between two other young men on Sunday night.

Zaffar Khan, 19, eventually died at the Port of Spain General Hospital after frenzied attempts to save his life. He lived with his mother and sister at Jean Avenue.

Police said the incident occurred at 9.45 p.m. near his home. Khan was reportedly outside his house liming with friends when two young men he knew began arguing. One of the men was about to attack the other when Khan intervened. During the struggle, however, Khan was stabbed once in the chest. The two young men who had squared off to fight fled the scene. The killer remained in hiding last night. Khan was taken to the hospital, where he died shortly after.

Speaking to the Express yesterday at the Forensic Science Centre in St James, Khan's mother, Mina, called for justice.

"My son didn't deserve to die like that," the soft-spoken woman said.

She too explained that "some boy was advantaging one of his friends and he stepped in. He was a nice boy and he was the type of person, if anything was happening to his friend he would jump in".

Homicide Bureau officers are continuing investigations.

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I was kidnapped, stripped naked, driver tells court
Keino Swamber South Bureau

Tuesday, July 7th 2009

from heresoh

WITH only a towel wrapped around him, taxi-driver Navin Birbal travelled to the Santa Flora Police Station where he reported that he was kidnapped at knife-point, stripped naked and ordered into the trunk of his car.

Birbal's testimony in the San Fernando Second Assize Court yesterday formed part of the case against 30-year-old David Joseph who is charged with kidnapping and robbery with aggravation.

The trial is being heard before Justice Mark Mohammed and a nine-member jury with five alternates.

Evidence on behalf of the State is being led by attorney Mauriceia Joseph while Joseph, a labourer of Well Road, Siparia, is being defended by attorney Ramesh Deena.

Birbal, of Arena Village, Erin, told the court that he was plying the Palo Seco to Erin route when, around 1.55 p.m., he picked up a man, whom he later identified as Joseph. He said Joseph had travelled with him about six times prior to October 22, 2002.

The court heard that Joseph asked Birbal if he was going to Erin and Birbal said yes. He said Joseph sat in the back seat. Two other passengers were eventually dropped off and the Joseph went to the front passenger seat.

Birbal testified that when they reached an isolated area Joseph pulled out a 12-inch-long knife and placed it at his throat. He said he was ordered out of the car, stripped of his clothing, robbed of $250 and forced into the trunk.

"He closed the trunk. Then I feel the car move off. After about ten to 15 minutes, I feel the car hit something and he continued driving. He made a stop. When I didn't hear any talking, I opened the trunk from the inside and I saw several people coming towards the car. A fella gave me a towel and I went to the Santa Flora Police Station."

Birbal said he was called to the Siparia CID on November 18, 2002 where he pointed out Joseph at an identification parade of eight men.

Under cross-examination by Deena, Birbal said Joseph, who on the day of the alleged incident had a Rastafarian hairstyle, was sporting a low-cut hairstyle on the day of the identification parade.

Deena is expected to continue his cross-examination of Birbal when the trial resumes today.

**britisha** · 07-08-2009, 06:47 AM

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Outtah Crime-free TnT

Salesman shot in 'self-defence'
Carolyn Kissoon South Bureau
Wednesday, July 8th 2009

killed: Adisa Wellington

The shooting death of salesman Adisa Wellington was not a case of mistaken identity but officers responding to a threat on their lives, police said yesterday.

It was the first time since the incident happened that investigators revealed information to the media.

Police said two officers were on patrol at Tarodale Heights, San Fernando, when they saw 28-year-old Wellington, who was dressed in an army-coloured hooded outfit. Investigators said Wellington pulled out a gun from his waist and pointed it at the officers, who then fired one gunshot.

Wellington was hit in the left side of the chest.

A .25 Raven automatic pistol and several rounds of ammunition were recovered, police said. Wellington had three previous convictions including warehouse break-in larceny, obscene language and possession of marijuana, police said.

But his mother, Diane Cato, insisted yesterday the police account was not true.

"I am going to seek legal advice but after my son's funeral. I don't want him to be sent off in confusion," she said.

Wellington would be buried following a funeral service at Belgroves Funeral Home, Coffee Street, San Fernando, on Friday.

An autopsy performed on Monday stated Wellington died from internal thoracic injuries and haemorrhaging consistent with a gunshot wound, the Express was told.

Wellington, who worked at Health Foods Specialist, Cocoyea, San Fernando, lived with his wife, Nikeisha Nicholas.

Homicide detectives are continuing investigations.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161501732

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since their stories don't tarry on the page, I had to hunt this one down and post it here..

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$14m drug bust: jobless accused denied bail
Rickie Ramdass 

[email protected]

Tuesday, July 7th 2009

AN UNEMPLOYED San Juan man yesterday appeared before a Port of Spain magistrate, charged with having in his possession cocaine with an estimated street value of $14 million.

Renrick Parris, 31, stood before Magistrate Avason Quinlan in the Fourth (B) Court charged with the offence. He also faced charges of possession of compressed marijuana worth close to $50,000 for the purpose of trafficking, possession of two pistols, one of which was equipped with a laser sight, 25 rounds of ammunition and three ammunition magazines. All of the charges were laid indictably and he was not called upon to enter a plea. The weight given for the cocaine and marijuana was 34,924.2 grammes and 5,243.5 grammes respectively.

After the charges were read, Parris, also known as Herbert Nigel Parris, was taken from the courtroom in handcuffs and onto St Vincent Street in full view of curious onlookers. He was then taken into the carpark of the courthouse to view the exhibit, which was brought in a burgundy-coloured SUV. The magistrate and other court officials also made their way to the carpark to view the items.

Once back in the courtroom, defence attorney Patrick Godson-Phillip told the magistrate his client had only one previous conviction for possession of cocaine "about ten years ago". A tracing of Parris's criminal record was not available, but police prosecutor, sergeant Winston Dillon, said one would be available by tomorrow, when the matter again comes up.

Quinlan said she was not willing to grant bail to the accused based on the nature of the offence. He was, however, reminded of his right to apply to a judge in chambers for bail.

On Saturday, officers from the Organised Crime Narcotics and Firearms Bureau (OCNFB) raided Parris's home at Thompson Lane, Petit Bourg. They allegedly found the drugs and guns-a Smith and Wesson nine millimetre handgun and a .45 calibre Taurus firearm-in bags and concealed within a barrel in the house.

**britisha** · 07-08-2009, 07:12 AM

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From outtah murder-free Bahamas

Pathologist: Taylor put up a fight with killer

By ARTESIA DAVIS ~ Guardian Senior Reporter ~ [email protected]:

An autopsy of renowned handbag designer Harl Taylor has revealed that he put up a fight with his killer, a Supreme Court jury heard yesterday.

Forensic pathologist Dr. Govinda Raju said he observed defensive injuries to Taylor's hands during his testimony in the murder trial of Troyniko McNeil, who is accused of causing Taylor's death between November 17 and 18, 2007. McNeil is the son of Taylor's former business partner Troy McNeil.

Dr. Raju told the court that he observed "multiple, cut and penetrating wounds" to Taylor's face, hands, neck, abdomen and shoulders. In all, Taylor sustained about 45 to 50 injuries to his body, according to the evidence. Those injuries included abrasions, cut wounds, incisions and bruises, Dr. Raju testified. One of those injuries to the abdomen left a portion of Taylor's intestine exposed, Dr. Raju told the jury.

Those injuries led to extensive blood loss, according to the evidence. Dr. Raju told the court that the human body contains five liters of blood and he estimated that Taylor had lost a "couple liters of blood".

Dr. Raju testified that he first viewed Taylor's body at the crime scene at Mountbatten House, West Hill Street at 2 p.m. on November 18. Taylor was face up in a pool of blood on a wooden floor and wearing bloodstained underwear, Dr. Raju said.

He told the court that Taylor had been dead for about 10 to 12 hours when he examined the body. Dr. Raju was of the opinion that "violent activities were going on at the time of death" based on the "violent contraction" that he observed of the muscles in Taylor's hands.

Dr. Raju is expected to continue his evidence today.

Bernard Turner, the director of public prosecutions, heads the prosecution team. He is assisted by Neil Brathwaite and Darnell Dorsette. Murrio Ducille is the lead defense lawyer. He is assisted by Paul Wallace, Alex Morley and Krysta Smith.

Wednesday, July 8, 2009

link

**britisha** · 07-08-2009, 07:17 AM

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Cops in Bahamas probe killing of Florida woman
Associated Press
2009-07-08 10:00 AM

Nassau detectives are investigating the slaying of a Florida woman whose badly decomposed body was wrapped inside a plastic bag and dumped along a sun-scorched roadway, a top commander said Tuesday.

Superintendent Ellsworth Moss, who heads the Central Detective Unit, told reporters that investigators had detained one person in connection with the murder of the American, whom he identified as 33-year-old Anna Michelle Garrison.

The woman, originally from West Palm Beach, Florida, had apparently been living with a Bahamian family for up to three years.

Moss said Garrison was also known by several aliases, but did not immediately disclose any more details.

A passer-by found her body over the weekend along a road by a Nassau prison.

Officials believe Garrison had been dead for more than a week before her body was discovered. An autopsy is pending.

should folks stay away from "It's better in the Bahamas, Bahamas?

**britisha** · 07-08-2009, 10:14 AM

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POSTING THIS HERE FOR FUTURE REFERENCE AND COMMENTARY

...and the saga continues...*chukkle*

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