Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #FF0000">Quotation:"Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah."</span>

<span style="color: #33CC00">Lawks, mi cancel that request...beg pardon from Mr. Dumpling have pity pon the message Board!!! Mi nuh know wah me ah ask fa!!!</span> </div></div>

Too late as sure as the Sun rises in the East!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?


Well!

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Paulwell and Spencer resign </span>
Tuesday, 13 November 2007
Former Energy Minister Phillip Paulwell and his deputy Kern Spencer have stepped down as Opposition Spokesmen on Energy.

In a statement to the media Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller said she has accepted the resignations and the party is cooperating fully with the investigations ordered by Energy Minister Clive Mullings.

In their letters to the Party, Mr. Paulwell and Mr. Spencer indicated that they would be stepping down while investigations continue into alleged improprieties in the Cuban light bulb project.

On Monday, Mr. Paulwell came out swinging as he broke his silence.

Mr. Paulwell called the allegations of impropriety half truths, innuendos and malicious lies.

Energy Minister Clive Mullings first brought the matter to national attention when he told Parliament two weeks ago that nearly $300 million which was spent cannot be accounted for.

During last Tuesday's sitting, Mr. Spencer broke down in tears as Mr. Mullings reeled off a list of damning allegations.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/2954/26/

[neutral]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Well!

<span style='font-size: 17pt'>Paulwell and Spencer resign </span>
Tuesday, 13 November 2007
Former Energy Minister Phillip Paulwell and his deputy Kern Spencer have stepped down as Opposition Spokesmen on Energy.

In a statement to the media Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller said she has accepted the resignations and the party is cooperating fully with the investigations ordered by Energy Minister Clive Mullings.

In their letters to the Party, Mr. Paulwell and Mr. Spencer indicated that they would be stepping down while investigations continue into alleged improprieties in the Cuban light bulb project.

On Monday, Mr. Paulwell came out swinging as he broke his silence.

Mr. Paulwell called the allegations of impropriety half truths, innuendos and malicious lies.

Energy Minister Clive Mullings first brought the matter to national attention when he told Parliament two weeks ago that nearly $300 million which was spent cannot be accounted for.

During last Tuesday's sitting, Mr. Spencer broke down in tears as Mr. Mullings reeled off a list of damning allegations.

http://www.radiojamaica.com/content/view/2954/26/

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Someone should be held accountable for this mess,they are treating the Jamaican electorate as fools,and obviously they have got away with as much as they could for as long as they could.

These two are obviously jumping before they are pushed.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

[johnnycakes]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #FF0000">Quotation:"Yu raise up the duppy now....im a dig up the wholla Z-Mag and post it in yah."</span>

<span style="color: #33CC00">Lawks, mi cancel that request...beg pardon from Mr. Dumpling have pity pon the message Board!!! Mi nuh know wah me ah ask fa!!!</span> </div></div>


Not to worry Littleman,
None of my erstwhile opponents on these pages ever goes near Znet.
Cognitive dissonance is something they can't bear.
When their fantasies meet up with Znet reality there is a swelling of the brain as it tries to reconcile reality with what they have chosen to believe.

Tuffy is correct, we have been down this path before and it does wind up being a difference in whether one believes that humans are intrinsically good or bad.

Those who believe in capitalism believe humans are basically flawed and greedy by nature, those who believe in socialism believe in the basic goodness and Christ-like character of the human spirit.

It does all boil down to that.

[Wahalla]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

Basically JVC is a Christlike who owns mutual funds and property lives in a free market econmomy, but we are evil because we want to own property invest in mutual funds and want to live by our own iniative..!

The diference he reads Znet...

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Basically JVC is a Christlike who owns mutual funds and property lives in a free market econmomy, but we are evil because we want to own property invest in mutual funds and want to live by our own iniative..!

The diference he reads Znet... </div></div>

.....and quotes from it liberally!

[Wahalla]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Basically JVC is a Christlike who owns mutual funds and property lives in a free market econmomy, but we are evil because we want to own property invest in mutual funds and want to live by our own iniative..!

The diference he reads Znet... </div></div>

.....and quotes from it liberally! </div></div>

.....our evil is furthr compounded because we dare to have opnions that differ from his orthodoxy as based on the opnion that Fidel and Chavez will lead us to nirvana if we just shut up and dont say anything....

[Blackstar*]

Re: whe u tink bout dis issue?

[johnnycakes]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Basically JVC is a Christlike who owns mutual funds and property lives in a free market econmomy, but we are evil because we want to own property invest in mutual funds and want to live by our own iniative..!

The diference he reads Znet... </div></div>

So Walhalla,
you judge me as a hypocrite because I was born, raised and live in a capitalist country and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, own land and a house in Jamaica (which as explained on several occasions not only make no money but cost me money and which helps support the Jamaican family that tends the house).

I care not a whit nor do I resent anyone else doing what is required to make a living and ensure their future.
My objection is to those support imperialism; the enforcement of neo liberal and neo-colonial economies on the poor of the world and who, at the same time, condemn socialism which takes care of the poor.
I respect anyone who lives by their own initiative but very few millionaires and billionaires made all their money by themselves and even if they did, the fact that they don't share that wealth while babies are starving by the millions points out their inhumanity to humanity.
Yes, that is a Christian teaching.

But then you'd have to read Znet to come close to understanding what I'm talking about and you cannot handle the truth found therein. All you sem to be able to do is twist the truth and twist reality to conform with your immoral beliefs.
Have you ever tried squeezing through the eye of a needle?
Further, for someone of black/Taino ancestry to then back the policies of the racist United States after the Spanish imperialists slaughtered the Taino/Arawaks and destroyed their culture and subsequently the U.S. enslaved and today Jim Crows the descendants of the Africans they captured in ghettoes of the inner cities, is just plain insanity.

You don't just turn the other cheek, you join up with your oppressors.

I hear a great deal from you and others about Znet but I do not believe I have ever seen anything from any of you that can gainsay what is reprinted there.
I can proudly point to Znet as one of my main sources of news and opinion.
What have you got?

[Wahalla]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So Walhalla,
you judge me as a hypocrite because I was born, raised and live in a capitalist country and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, own land and a house in Jamaica (which as explained on several occasions not only make no money but cost me money and which helps support the Jamaican family that tends the house).</div></div>

I dont judge you...after all you support socialism so must be "Christ-like" (Well you say so....).. After all you tell people to laugh at us unchristlike who advocate survival by do the same thing. as yous .. who support our selves by doint what you are doing. (And who called me a "Class Traitor" after I posted my abmibtion was to buy a house in Jamaica and raise my family..Just like you own.... No you are not a hycorite.. You are a yankee.... (Who calls me am eeidiat, ignorant, running dog and the usual hacknied insults of those who own mutual funds while advocating others peoples commit seppuku.....

So you support the private ownership of at least two properties.. And thanks for giving charity, a very noble endeavour as opposed to handing ownership over to workers who labour on your property.. Ah a socialist who owns the capital..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, </div></div>since only Cuba has socialism (according to you)thus the rest of us should invest in the stock market as a matter of survival... if you disagree then one can conclude that you dont want us to survive..

[bee_bop]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<span style="color: #FF0000">I am sure the following excerpt from the Daily Gleaner of 11/16/2007, is from the notorious JohnnyCakes:</span>

<span style="color: #009900"> Cuba making stridesdespite US blockade
published: Friday | November 16, 2007

'Cuba stands as a model to developing countries of dignity, resistance, resilience and commitment to peace and human development.'

The Editor, Sir:

A letter from Pedro Dorta of Maryland, United States, was carried in The Gleaner on Tuesday, November 13. In this letter he questioned why he has to send his mother, a pensioner, money if Cuba is feeding its people.

Does this Cuban not realise the impact that the U.S. blockade has had on the development of Cuba? The Cuban Foreign Minister, Felipe Perez Roque, recently said that the sanctions have cost Cuba more than US$89 billion. The U.S. blockade was intended to cause hunger and desperation in order to force the people to renounce the Cuban revolution and return to the neocolonial status in which it was held for over half a century.

But the opposite has happened. The Cuban revolution is firmer today than ever, and 184 nations at the United Nations General Assembly voted for the lifting of the U.S. blockade against Cuba, an increase from 59 nations in 1992.

US isolated

Only four nations voted against the recent U.N. resolution - the United States, Israel, Marshall Islands, and Palau. One nation abstained. The United States is isolated on this issue.

It is no miracle that the Cuban Revolution continues to survive despite the blockade, and has made great strides in education, science, technology, industry and social development. It is due to the strength and determination of the Cuban people. Cuba stands as a model to developing countries of dignity, resistance, resilience and commitment to peace and human development.

If their achievements have been as great under the blockade, can you imagine what it will be like when the blockade is lifted?

Revolution humane

Notwithstanding the difficulties it faces, Cuba shares the benefits of its revolution with countries all over the world through scholarships, the Miracle Eye Care programme and other medical assistance, supply of teachers, collaboration in science and technology, and much more.

The Cuban Revolution is so humane that through the Miracle Eye care programme, the eyesight of the Bolivian soldier who killed Che Guevara was restored.

My message to Pedro is: The fact that you live in the U.S. does not mean that you have to be a puppet of George Bush. Open your eyes and face the facts; otherwise, you will be as isolated as the president of the United States, popularly called 'Pequeno Bush' in Latin America.

Sending his mother money is a loving act that people all over the world practise, and Pedro should continue to do so without rancour. He should know that Jamaica's economy depends heavily on remittances from family and friends abroad.

Jamaica's neocolonial status does not shield it from the vagaries of capitalism. This is typical of many developing countries which are bound by the stranglehold of imperialist domination under the new moniker 'globalisation'.

I am, etc.,

BOBBY JOHNSON

[email protected]
</span>

[johnnycakes]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

Couldn't have said it better Littleman.
It does sound like me but it's just someone else with common sense and an idea of what is going on in the world.

[johnnycakes]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So Walhalla,
you judge me as a hypocrite because I was born, raised and live in a capitalist country and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, own land and a house in Jamaica (which as explained on several occasions not only make no money but cost me money and which helps support the Jamaican family that tends the house).</div></div>

I dont judge you...after all you support socialism so must be "Christ-like" (Well you say so....).. After all you tell people to laugh at us unchristlike who advocate survival by do the same thing. as yous .. who support our selves by doint what you are doing. (And who called me a "Class Traitor" after I posted my abmibtion was to buy a house in Jamaica and raise my family..Just like you own.... No you are not a hycorite.. You are a yankee.... (Who calls me am eeidiat, ignorant, running dog and the usual hacknied insults of those who own mutual funds while advocating others peoples commit seppuku.....

So you support the private ownership of at least two properties.. And thanks for giving charity, a very noble endeavour as opposed to handing ownership over to workers who labour on your property.. Ah a socialist who owns the capital..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, </div></div>since only Cuba has socialism (according to you)thus the rest of us should invest in the stock market as a matter of survival... if you disagree then one can conclude that you dont want us to survive.. </div></div>


Walhalla,
Your posts get more and more inane in making connections from fact to your bizarre unreality.
Your non sequiturs do not require a response.

[evanovitch]

Re: Cuban 'Free' light bulb cost Ja Millions?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So Walhalla,
you judge me as a hypocrite because I was born, raised and live in a capitalist country and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, own land and a house in Jamaica (which as explained on several occasions not only make no money but cost me money and which helps support the Jamaican family that tends the house).</div></div>

I dont judge you...after all you support socialism so must be "Christ-like" (Well you say so....).. After all you tell people to laugh at us unchristlike who advocate survival by do the same thing. as yous .. who support our selves by doint what you are doing. (And who called me a "Class Traitor" after I posted my abmibtion was to buy a house in Jamaica and raise my family..Just like you own.... No you are not a hycorite.. You are a yankee.... (Who calls me am eeidiat, ignorant, running dog and the usual hacknied insults of those who own mutual funds while advocating others peoples commit seppuku.....

So you support the private ownership of at least two properties.. And thanks for giving charity, a very noble endeavour as opposed to handing ownership over to workers who labour on your property.. Ah a socialist who owns the capital..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and have pension funds ( an absolute necessity for survival in any capitalist country) that are invested in the stock market, </div></div>since only Cuba has socialism (according to you)thus the rest of us should invest in the stock market as a matter of survival... if you disagree then one can conclude that you dont want us to survive.. </div></div>

u know the term that came to me was bourgoisee....u know di bit about maintaining di locals who maintain the land...fits into 15th century england as i was reading last nite... [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]