The Original Egyptians

**uswe** · 12-02-2008, 07:42 AM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

I notice this tends to be a common characteristic exhibited among the "double and triple Africans" of "African" ancestry born in the UK, US and the Caribbean. Nuff ah dem seem to wanna out African, Africans. Whom many of which, view them as naive romantics.

**jah_yout** · 12-02-2008, 11:13 AM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by jah yout

Originally posted by uswe

Originally posted by jah yout

Originally posted by uswe

Originally posted by jah yout

^^
not saying you personally, but for some reason our people usually explain everything in arabia or east/north africa with something involving slavery...

also i didn't know caucasian was a 'hue'...
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Hue is a colour, or a shade of! </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">still douesn't explain how caucasian is a hue...</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">there are non-caucasians who have the same hue as some caucasians </span></div></div>

what kind of oxymoronic statement is that? So a hue is not a colour? You seem to be confusing colour and culture as one and the same, they are not mutually exclusive!

ok i guess i have to spell it out;

you wrote earlier that indians & pakistanis <span style="font-weight: bold">'range in hue from black to caucasian</span>'...
which is what prompted me to ask since when did 'caucasian' become a 'hue'...
caucasian is more of a racial classification than a color one, since there are some non-caucasians that have the same hue as some caucasians...
in other words, a chinese person can have the same hue as a european person...
same way an indian person who some classify as 'caucasian' could have the same hue as an african who is not classified as caucasian...
hope this clears it up a little

exactly, caucasian is a colour and not a race of people

i think it's the other way around...
caucasian only means from the caucusus mountains which they used as a racial classification for people with a certain skull type...it really was not about color since they also classify some black-skinned indians as 'caucasian' and some white-skinned peoples as 'mongoloid' and 'negroid'

So you can be black, but white and vice-a-versa? an who is <span style="font-weight: bold">they</span>? Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? anyway gwaan duh yuh ting!

you can be black in skin color and classified as 'caucasian' by white scientists who created these terms in their science of anthropology (as they classify some south asian/indians with a very dark skin);
or you can be white in color and classified as 'negroid', another racial classification they created (like king yellowman with a white skin is still classified as 'negroid');
again i am correcting your mistake of defining the term caucasian as a skin pigmentation because that is not what it really signifies...

**jah_yout** · 12-02-2008, 11:14 AM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

you're hopeless

**uswe** · 12-02-2008, 11:29 AM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">you're hopeless </span></div></div>

Likewise, congratulations on another thoughtful observation, its been a pleasure debating with you too Mr Youth

**jah_yout** · 12-02-2008, 11:41 AM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by uswe

...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">you're hopeless </span></div></div>

Likewise, congratulations on another thoughtful observation, its been a pleasure debating with you too Mr Youth

i was actually referring to sukuna but you can wear the cap if it fits;
i don't have to force anyone to believe that africans built africa...they can revel in mental slavery if they choose...

peace be unto you

**uswe** · 12-02-2008, 12:03 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by sukuna

Originally posted by uswe

...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">you're hopeless </span></div></div>

Likewise, congratulations on another thoughtful observation, its been a pleasure debating with you too Mr Youth

i was actually referring to sukuna but you can wear the cap if it fits;
<span style="font-weight: bold">i don't have to force anyone to believe that africans built africa...they can revel in mental slavery if they choose...</span>
peace be unto you

Mi hav nuff tam, mi nuh need nuh more, but seriously did you get the impression that Sukana never believed that Africans built Africa? And that she is revels in mental slavery? This is a question and not an opinion

Peace be unto you also, sight?

**rufian** · 12-02-2008, 12:39 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
i don't have to force anyone to believe that africans built africa...they can revel in mental slavery if they choose...
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the reason why you can't convince anybody that Africa was built by Africans is that everybody done know
ayu too racist for me. the only civilization in africa dat ayu a try fe prove a de only one that the whites claim. what about the rest? but since you come from north we naa go see eye to eye

**rufian** · 12-02-2008, 12:47 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

you're hopeless </div></div>

same to you,
out of range ha?
me waan fe know since when rasta start fe wear egyptian mask

**uswe** · 12-02-2008, 12:54 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
i don't have to force anyone to believe that africans built africa...they can revel in mental slavery if they choose...
</div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">the reason why you can't convince anybody that Africa was built by Africans is that everybody done know</span>
ayu too racist for me. the only civilization in africa dat ayu a try fe prove a de only one that the whites claim. what about the rest? but since you come from north we naa go see eye to eye </div></div>

I like you Sukie never go the impression from the general tenet of this thread that people didn't believe that Africa was indeed built by Africans.

**jah_yout** · 12-02-2008, 01:05 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
i don't have to force anyone to believe that africans built africa...they can revel in mental slavery if they choose...
</div></div>
the reason why you can't convince anybody that Africa was built by Africans is that everybody done know
ayu too racist for me. the only civilization in africa dat ayu a try fe prove a de only one that the whites claim. what about the rest? but since you come from north we naa go see eye to eye </div></div>

we can 'reason' all day as long as you do so in a logical manner...mi nuh inna di skin teet ting;
everyone knows but do you?
i could be wrong but to me it seems you have tried every way to oppose the argument that ancient egyptian civilization was founded by black africans...
and egypt is not the only african civilization that whites have tried to claim...and who ever said anything about 'the only one' i'm trying to claim?
i claim all of africa...who said i came from the north?
my ancestry is most likely west africa like most other jamaicans...but i stand in solidarity with africans everywhere...
well i have offered my arguments as to why ancient egypt was a black african civilization...
you have your right whether you believe this theory or not;
but as for me, mi nah mek a next guy claim the history of my people/continent while making me a footnote in said history

**jah_yout** · 12-02-2008, 01:06 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by uswe

...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

you're hopeless </div></div>

same to you,
out of range ha?
me waan fe know since when rasta start fe wear egyptian mask

i'm pretty sure your knowledge of rasta is extremely limited

**Andrewnaqi** · 12-02-2008, 01:12 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

I notice this tends to be a common characteristic exhibited among the "double and triple Africans" of "African" ancestry born in the UK, US and the Caribbean. Nuff ah dem seem to wanna out African, Africans. Whom many of which, view them as naive romantics. </div></div>

That is a mis-guided conclusion around here. People need to realise that those of our people on the afrikan continent have gone through and are going through nuff mental slavery. Just cause one is one the continent doesn't make one more or less than those in the disapora but it is what is in the mind, if it is in our blood who are any of us to deny it?

**uswe** · 12-02-2008, 01:25 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Andrewnaqi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by uswe

...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

I notice this tends to be a common characteristic exhibited among the "double and triple Africans" of "African" ancestry born in the UK, US and the Caribbean. Nuff ah dem seem to wanna out African, Africans. Whom many of which, view them as naive romantics. </div></div>

That is a mis-guided conclusion around here. People need to realise that those of our people on the afrikan continent have gone through and are going through nuff mental slavery. Just cause one is one the continent doesn't make one more or less than those in the disapora but it is what is in the mind, if it is in our blood who are any of us to deny it?

Its not a case of denying anything, but this is the 21st century, and people are free acknowledge their African ancestry without necessarily considering themselves African.

**rufian** · 12-02-2008, 02:23 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Andrewnaqi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by uswe

...Are you challenging, or conforming to babylon orthodoxcy? ...</div></div>

good question.

failed attempt to create a black point of view especially when white ideologies are being used for it </div></div>

I notice this tends to be a common characteristic exhibited among the "double and triple Africans" of "African" ancestry born in the UK, US and the Caribbean. Nuff ah dem seem to wanna out African, Africans. Whom many of which, view them as naive romantics. </div></div>

That is a mis-guided conclusion around here. People need to realise that those of our people on the afrikan continent have gone through and are going through nuff mental slavery. Just cause one is one the continent doesn't make one more or less than those in the disapora but it is what is in the mind, if it is in our blood who are any of us to deny it?

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the interesting thing is that it is those who consider themselves less african who go to stock up on their knowledge of Africa. put on african clothes and buy all the african artifacts to prove how african they are afterall

**Andrewnaqi** · 12-02-2008, 03:04 PM

Re: The Original Egyptians

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its not a case of denying anything, but this is the 21st century, and people are free acknowledge their African ancestry without necessarily considering themselves African. </div></div>

Why would you want to deny yourself as African?
How come you can so easily accept being Jamaican when that is not your origin?

The Original Egyptians

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