<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well i hope she's taking full advantage of all the paid offers : book, tv, movie, radio...whatever comes her way.
</div></div>..yep she sure needs the money at this point!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-a weh she get money from fi afford nanny after she nuh work ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-a weh she get money from fi afford nanny after she nuh work ?
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My tax dollars.... </div></div>
why do people always say this as if they have ANY say in wht happens to the taxes they take for us?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: windblown_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well dem announce yessidey that the hospital weh deliver di 8 ah tek donations cah she never have insurance ahn di bill reach ova 1 million already. </div></div>
and why should we donate to her cause?
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Octuplet mom was treated at Beverly Hills clinic</span>
LOS ANGELES — Dr. Michael Kamrava was already a well-known and controversial fertility specialist.
He was certain to become both more famous and the subject of more heated discussion after his name emerged as the director of the Southern California clinic where the mother of octuplets was implanted with embryos.
Kamrava, a specialist who pioneered a method of implantation, was identified Monday as a result of an interview aired on NBC with Nadya Suleman, who gave birth to eight babies Jan. 26.
Over the past two weeks, the identity of Suleman’s fertility doctor has been a source of great mystery because of questions over the ethics of implanting numerous embryos in a woman who already had six children.
Kamrava, 57, would not comment on the issue, but told reporters outside his clinic in Beverly Hills that he had granted an interview to one of the television networks. When asked to provide more detail, he said, "Watch the news."
Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the Suleman case to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care." The medical board said Monday it has not taken any disciplinary action against Kamrava in the past.
In the NBC interview, Suleman did not identify her doctor by name, but said that she went to the West Coast IVF Clinic in Beverly Hills — of which Kamrava is director — and that all 14 of her children were conceived with help from the same doctor. In 2006, Los Angeles TV station KTLA ran a story on infertility that showed Kamrava treating Suleman and discussing embryo implantation.
Kamrava graduated from the University of Illinois and went to medical school at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, according to state records and his Web site.
Some fertility specialists said Kamrava is a controversial figure in the field.
"He’s tried some novel techniques and some of those methods have been controversial," said Dr. John Jain, founder of Santa Monica Fertility Specialists.
Jain criticized the decision to implant so many embryos, saying: "I do think that this doctor really stepped outside the guidelines in a very extreme manner, and as such, put both the mother and children at extra high risk of disability and even death."
Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg, a professional acquaintance of Kamrava’s, said Kamrava worked to develop an embryo transfer device that allows doctors to implant an embryo — or sometimes sperm with an unfertilized egg — directly into the uterine lining.
"Usually we inject the embryos into the uterus and they float around and attach themselves," Steinberg said. However, Steinberg said there was no evidence the method improved success rates for pregnancy.
It was not immediately known if the technique was used on Suleman.
Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her pregnancies. The octuplets were a surprise result of her last set of six embryos, she said, explaining she had expected twins at most. Two of the embryos evidently divided in the womb.
Medical ethicists have criticized the implanting of so many embryos. National guidelines put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman’s age, except in extraordinary circumstances.
Kamrava’s clinic performed 20 in vitro procedures on women under 35 in 2006, according to the most recent national report compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Of those 20 procedures, four resulted in pregnancies and two in births. One woman delivered twins.
The average number of embryos he transferred per procedure for women under 35 was 3.5, the report said. Fertility doctors often implant more than one embryo to increase the chances that one will take hold.
An in-vitro procedure typically costs between $8,000 and $15,000. Asked on NBC how she was able to afford the treatments, Suleman said she had saved money and used some of the more than $165,000 in disability payments she received after being injured in a 1999 riot at a state mental hospital where she worked.
Suleman, who is 33 and single, also told NBC that she does not intend to go on welfare, though her publicist confirmed Monday that she already receives food stamps and child disability payments to help feed and care for her six other children.
Suleman’s publicist Mike Furtney said she receives $490 a month in food stamps. Three of Suleman’s non-octuplet children are disabled, Furtney said, but Suleman did not want to disclose the nature of the disabilities, or the type or sum of the payments.
"In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare," Furtney said. "She just believes that there are programs for people with needs and she and her children qualify for some of them."
The octuplets were born nine weeks prematurely but appear relatively healthy. Their names have a Biblical theme: Noah, Jonah, Jeremiah, Josiah, Isaiah, Maliyah, Makai and Nariyah. All share the middle name Angel and the last name Solomon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: windblown_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well dem announce yessidey that the hospital weh deliver di 8 ah tek donations cah she never have insurance ahn di bill reach ova 1 million already. </div></div>
matter of fact weh the california people dem deh a das why dem nah get nuh tax refund this year
saka this maddix wanna be angelina jolie ooman
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Andrewnaqi</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TLC_Beauty</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-a weh she get money from fi afford nanny after she nuh work ?
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My tax dollars.... </div></div>
why do people always say this as if they have ANY say in wht happens to the taxes they take for us? </div></div>
She explained: “They’re going to watch these kids very carefully for eating problems, growing [problems], and then seizures, jaundice, heart problems, lung problems, blindness, developmental delays — <span style="font-weight: bold">there’s a laundry list of things. Long term, because some of these children will be physically or mentally challenged, there’s a looming price tag out here</span>. The hospital bill alone will run $1.5 to $3 million. Forget about getting to college; just to get through special-needs stuff — it’s going to have to come from somewhere, either the taxpayers of California or her family or her church or the hospital. But she can’t do it alone.”
NBC contributor and psychiatrist Dr. Gail Saltz added that <span style="font-weight: bold">there will be emotional issues to deal with as well</span>. “Undoubtedly these eight children are going to have issues: at the minimum, the issue of neglect,” Saltz told Lauer.
“Obviously, she’s saying she’s going to love them, but there are 14 children and [only] one of her,” Saltz continued. “There’s going to be an absence of some emotional needs. There will probably be developmental delays at best in these children; maybe learning disabilities. <span style="font-weight: bold">There are going to be major issues that they’re going to need various therapies for</span>.”
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for the older children
why do people always say this as if they have ANY say in wht happens to the taxes they take for us? 
wah dem email address cause mi have a few chice words fi dem
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