jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

**blugiant** · 02-18-2009, 09:02 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The word "homophobic" has a clear meaning blu... read it and weep"

[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh]
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
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n.
1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2. Behavior based on such a feeling.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">homophobic</span>

adjective
<span style="color: #990000">prejudiced against homosexual people
</span>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">blu:
yu missinn de pint ere forty

fe cawl sintinn a phobia iss a psychological disarder dat iss agreed upp pon bye group aff recagnized psychologist wey agreed uppon de definition aff de dissarder. noo recagnized group aff psychologist eva agreed uppon homophobia as wan psychology dissarder. soo dere iss reallee no farmal definition aff homophobia cah dem recagnized psychologist never aggreed dat de nan acceptance aff homosexualitee iss psychology disarder.

itt homosexual wey try fii label narmal peeps wey doan accept homosexualitee as narmal as homophobic. dat y wurd homophobia iss without meaninn unless yu willinn fe accept wan homosexual label. dat y dat studee above iss meaninnful onlee to homosexual woo waan narmal peeps fe accept homosexual labels </div></div>
No one is saying that homophobia is a mental disorder. Everyone knows it is a social disorder.

You could use the same test and substitute Jews, or Blacks, or women, and see where you lie on the spectrum of people who have an "<span style="font-style: italic">unreasoning fear of or antipathy </span> " towards that group of people. </div></div>

phobia iss wan psychologee term fe chatt bout unnreasonablee fear aff sintinn. fe sey sumbadee ave a phobia ar phobic iss fe cyaarakktarrize a persan as avinn medical ar mental health issue. a social disorder iss still a mental health issue. try awl yu waan yu knoo de realitee iss dat homophobia iss sintinn fe label narmal peeps wey doan accept homosexualitee as narmal

yu knoo yu cyaan use de made upp homosexual ting fe label blakk peeps as racist

**blugiant** · 02-18-2009, 09:20 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">soo yu tink politrixxstahs usinn funnee peeps fe hide issue aff crime.</div></div>

I think un-Earnest Smith is using the funny man issue to hide his own insecirites and he and his Government failures on crime.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii guess yu doan tink buggerinn iss wan serious crime...</div></div>
Yes I think it is a serious crime. It is one of the crimes that the Government has failed to curb. Gay and Buggering is not mutually exclusive and should not be use as interchangeable items. This is another fraud argument.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...even doah funnee men ave de iighest rate aff spreadinn aids ann hiv. mii figgar politrixxstah wass affarinn wan possible xxplanation fe police violent inn ja </div></div>This of course is another fraud. In the first place AIDS contraction and submission does not rely on Gay Sex to the exclusion of all else.

Secondly the Minster made not mention of STD or Sex in his arguments, so it not clear that even he was equating the spread of STD with gays or violence.

Just in case you are still confused he is what was posted of the Minister's Statements.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Wednesday, 11 February 2009

Member of Parliament (MP) for South West St. Ann Ernest Smith <span style="font-weight: bold">has suggested that the authorities deny homosexuals licensed firearms.</span>

During Tuesday's Parliamentary debate on the Sex Offenders Act, the St. Ann M.P. described homosexuals as violent people who should not be allowed to carry licensed firearms.

"I am very concerned at the extent to which homosexual activities seem to have overtaken this country ... I am very concerned that homosexuals in Jamaica have become so brazen, they've formed themselves into organizations and are abusive, violent and something that the Ministry of National Security must look into is why is it that so many homosexuals are licensed firearm holders," said Mr. Smith.

<span style="font-weight: bold">The MP also claimed that based on reports he had seen, that there are too many homosexuals in the police force</span>.

"There was a report recently which has never been challenged that our security forces, particularly the Jamaican Constabulary Force, have been overrun by homosexuals ... there was a front page report in one of our daily newspapers, which has never been challenged," said Mr. Smith.

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<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">dwl MP says cops are gays</span> </div></div>

a wat yu tryinn fe sey. yu reallee tink bruce ann de jlp cyaan aandle ja crime issues. bruce reallee doinn a wurst jabb dan dem pnp peeps.

tg funnee men rate aff spreadinn aids ann hiv iss de iighest ann weddar de man mention itt ar natt itt still a reason fe bunn fiyah pon funnee peeps.

yu knoo sum aff dem babylon blue inn ja ar funnee ann iff de man tink funnee peeps shood be disarmed cah dem violent y imm affii wait fe studee fee canfirm. funnee babylon mp shood bee dissarmed ann fired fram de force cah funnee men ar criminals wey bruke de law wen dem bow

**f0rTyLeGz** · 02-18-2009, 10:51 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
phobia iss wan psychologee term fe chatt bout unnreasonablee fear aff sintinn. fe sey sumbadee ave a phobia ar phobic iss fe cyaarakktarrize a persan as avinn medical ar mental health issue. a social disorder iss still a mental health issue. try awl yu waan yu knoo de realitee iss dat homophobia iss sintinn fe label narmal peeps wey doan accept homosexualitee as narmal</div></div>
No one is saying that "homophobia" (that you have bad bad) is a mental disorder. Is racism a mental disorder? I think racism is a social disorder. It is something that <span style="font-style: italic">everyone (in your group)</span> is taught from the day they are born. Changing ones feelings of fear/rage/anxiety about groups that we are prejudiced against is very difficult... although not as impossible as going from straight to gay, or gay to straight.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> blu:
yu knoo yu cyaan use de made upp homosexual ting fe label blakk peeps as racist </div></div>
I don't think your homophobia represents all blacks.

You use "homophile" to designate people who don't despise homosexuals like you do, and yet you try to reject the "homophobe" classification?

Please take the test... just for the benchmark?

**Tuff Gong** · 02-19-2009, 12:47 AM

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[quote=blakkgiant]a wat yu tryinn fe sey. yu reallee tink bruce ann de jlp cyaan aandle ja crime issues. bruce reallee doinn a wurst jabb dan dem pnp peeps.

tg funnee men rate aff spreadinn aids ann hiv iss de iighest ann weddar de man mention itt ar natt itt still a reason fe bunn fiyah pon funnee peeps./quote]

You have provided <span style="font-style: italic">(wittingly or unwittingly)</span> 100% agreement to all of what I have said about this incident. You just like the Minister cannot envision a day when the GOJ under Bruise Gelding cannot see it way to a day when it can bring the crime situation under control, so the next best thing to the actual solution of the crime problem is cast the sins on to the hogs...in this case the f@g of Jamaica.

**Marielle** · 02-19-2009, 08:53 AM

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Oh, I saw that letter (in the paper, online) and thought it was brilliant!!!!!!!

**Marielle** · 02-19-2009, 08:55 AM

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[quote=f0rTyLeGz
I don't think your homophobia represents all blacks.
[/quote]

No, and definately not the gay ones I know!!!! LOL

**Derek** · 02-19-2009, 10:31 AM

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Perhaps the fixation helps divert attention away from Jamaica's real issues.

**sagal** · 02-19-2009, 10:44 AM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps the fixation helps divert attention away from Jamaica's real issues. </div></div>

BINGO!!!! We have a winner!!! I also heard some Jamaican ladies the other day stating that it was the Haitian refugees committing "most" of the crimes in Jamaica. LOL!!!!

**Derek** · 02-19-2009, 11:30 AM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sagal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps the fixation helps divert attention away from Jamaica's real issues. </div></div>

BINGO!!!! We have a winner!!! </div></div>

**blugiant** · 02-19-2009, 02:48 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
phobia iss wan psychologee term fe chatt bout unnreasonablee fear aff sintinn. fe sey sumbadee ave a phobia ar phobic iss fe cyaarakktarrize a persan as avinn medical ar mental health issue. a social disorder iss still a mental health issue. try awl yu waan yu knoo de realitee iss dat homophobia iss sintinn fe label narmal peeps wey doan accept homosexualitee as narmal</div></div>
No one is saying that "homophobia" (that you have bad bad) is a mental disorder. Is racism a mental disorder? I think racism is a social disorder. It is something that <span style="font-style: italic">everyone (in your group)</span> is taught from the day they are born. Changing ones feelings of fear/rage/anxiety about groups that we are prejudiced against is very difficult... although not as impossible as going from straight to gay, or gay to straight.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> blu:
yu knoo yu cyaan use de made upp homosexual ting fe label blakk peeps as racist </div></div>
I don't think your homophobia represents all blacks.

You use "homophile" to designate people who don't despise homosexuals like you do, and yet you try to reject the "homophobe" classification?

Please take the test... just for the benchmark?

</div></div>

diss mekk mii laff

40 legz like mii dunn tell yu awlreadee dere iss noo such ting as homophobia. homophobia iss sintinn made upp funnee peeps fii tryinn fe negative label narmal peeps wey doan accept funnee peeps lifestyle as narmal. phobia iss psychologikkal term used bye regagnized group aff psychologists fe define ann label peeps suffarinn aff unreasonable fear aff sintinn. deer iss noo recagnized group aff psychologists wey agree pon definition aff homophobia. soo like itt ar natt, since homophobia iss unrecagnizeable dere iss noo such ting as homophobia.

de wurd phobia iss used inna a diffarant way cah itt bout unreasonable fear aff sintinn soo itt wan mental eealth sintinn. homophile doo natt carree de same meaninn cah itt natt recagnized bye a recagnzied group fe label a group as sufferinn fram specific defined psychologee issue

itt natt a test itt wan qwestionaire devised bye homosexuals fe label narmal peeps usinn funnee peeps values fe judge

**blugiant** · 02-19-2009, 02:59 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sagal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

BINGO!!!! We have a winner!!! I also heard some Jamaican ladies the other day stating that it was the Haitian refugees committing "most" of the crimes in Jamaica. LOL!!!!
</div></div>

mii guess yu iggnarrant affde bigg jugg fram ja ann gunnfram haiti trade wey cantributinn too de gun crime ann violence inn ja

mii natt blaminn de haitianns butt fe sumbadee fii lol widdout ovaatanndinn de issue shoow yu lackk aff ovatandinn aff de issue

**evanovitch** · 02-19-2009, 03:38 PM

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Crying ga(y)me </span>

Dear Pastor,

Nothing is wrong with making love to someone of the same sex, and moreover, you don't have any control over who you fall in love with. So, pastor, I don't see any sense in you recommending persons who are gay or bisexual to seek counselling. I am a Christian because I believe in Christ. I believe that Christ wants me to be honest with myself and fall in love with who I want to. I have a real problem when Christians misuse of the Bible.

Pastor, you should be commending gay persons for their honesty because I know of several married men who are dating guys. They are the ones you need to counsel. They need to be told to be truthful to themselves and to the women they are fooling.

I don't have any problem being gay; I have a problem with those persons who are condemning gays yet they are secretly doing the same thing.

W.S., Toronto, Canada

Dear W.S.,

Evidently you are reacting to something I have written in response to a letter someone wrote to me about homosexuality. In fact, you are probably upset because I do not support nor sanction homosexuality in any form. Nevertheless, no one can truthfully say or prove that I have condemned people who are homosexuals. I don't condemn anybody. That is not my job and it is not my approach in counselling. There are those, however, who believe that because I quote the Scriptures to prove that homosexuality is wrong, that I am condemning those who practise that form of lifestyle.

I make no apology for saying that it is abominable and immoral for a man to make love to another man; it is also abominable for two women to make love to each other. You don't think so and that is your position. You can say what you want to say and do what you want to do, but you cannot prove that I am not speaking the truth when I say that homosexual behaviour is condemned by Almighty God. And the majority of the people who have written to me do so because they feel convicted and are seeking help.

Spiritual deliverance

There are some people who, indeed, misuse the Bible, but I can assure you that on this matter of homosexuality, if any Christian says that it is wrong, he or she is, indeed, standing on the authority of God. Nowhere in the Bible is homosexuality accepted, encouraged or sanctioned. There is not even one verse that anyone can show or quote from the Bible in which Almighty God or any one of His disciples sanctioned this sort of lifestyle.

Anyone who condemns homosexuality but secretly practises it will be judged by God, whether that person is a Christian or a non-Christian. You are very angry. You are looking for an excuse for the life you live. It is my duty to pray for you and to ask God to cause you to experience a spiritual deliverance. If you were to experience the mighty working of the Holy Spirit in your life, you would come to realise that your lifestyle is not good and what you are doing is contrary to nature. And God says when anyone refuses to do what is right, and to believe in Him, He gives up that person to a reprobate mind.

Let me put it straight to you; these words are from the Bible: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections (degrading passions), for even their women did change the natural use into which is against nature: And likewise, also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burnt in their lust one toward another; men with men, working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." (Romans 1: 26-27).

I am not condemning, I am only quoting the Bible. And I believe the Bible.

Pastor

**Tuff Gong** · 02-19-2009, 04:38 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps the fixation helps divert attention away from Jamaica's real issues. </div></div>

Exactly that <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Blu</span> and the<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> Minster </span>is admitting to!

**f0rTyLeGz** · 02-19-2009, 04:55 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
40 legz like mii dunn tell yu awlreadee dere iss noo such ting as homophobia. homophobia iss sintinn made upp funnee peeps fii tryinn fe negative label narmal peeps wey doan accept funnee peeps lifestyle as narmal. phobia iss psychologikkal term used bye regagnized group aff psychologists fe define ann label peeps suffarinn aff unreasonable fear aff sintinn. deer iss noo recagnized group aff psychologists wey agree pon definition aff homophobia. soo like itt ar natt, since homophobia iss unrecagnizeable dere iss noo such ting as homophobia.

de wurd phobia iss used inna a diffarant way cah itt bout unreasonable fear aff sintinn soo itt wan mental eealth sintinn. homophile doo natt carree de same meaninn cah itt natt recagnized bye a recagnzied group fe label a group as sufferinn fram specific defined psychologee issue

itt natt a test itt wan qwestionaire devised bye homosexuals fe label narmal peeps usinn funnee peeps values fe judge </div></div>
The legitimacy of word "homophobia" is YOUR issue. It isn't the meaning of this test. The test measures your feelings about a cohort group. For most of the questions you could easily change the word homosexual to Jew, or Black, or Pakistani, and if a few thousand people took the quiz, you could gauge your result against the other respondents.

Most of us experience our own feelings as normal, and we can't imagine <span style="font-style: italic">feeling</span> other than we do. You are no different than the rest of us. Just take the test and see how your feelings about homosexuals relate to the norm, and forget about the phobia or philo labels.

**blugiant** · 02-20-2009, 07:35 PM

Re: jamaicans appalling fixation on gays

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perhaps the fixation helps divert attention away from Jamaica's real issues. </div></div>

Exactly that <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Blu</span> and the<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"> Minster </span>is admitting to! </div></div>

diss mekk mii laff tg

de politrixxstah sey funnee peeps shood bee disarmed cah dem funnee babylan bwoys ar more violent. de man chattinn bout crime butt yu sey imm divertinn attenshan away fram de real issues cah yu doan like wen dem bunn fiyah pon funnee peeps. mii guess itt onlee wen imm sey sintinn against funnee crime dat yu tink imm natt fii chatt bout dem abomination

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