Colonel Trevor MacMillan has resigned as National Security M

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">be careful wat u wish fah</span>.....poor ting...look how long him wanted di wuk an now him get it it a buss him shut fi real...dang ...poor mi country fi real </div></div>

Mr. Seaga was right about him, he is incompetent, but he was legally elected.

[Tuff Gong]

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Gelding has gone deeper into the bunker.
Dwight Nelson as MONS?
James Roberston to replace Derrick Smith?

[evanovitch]

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competence is the least of the issue...afta all Obama is brilliant an still di US naw see no real shift wid all di money whe trow bout...

Bruce a ketch imported hell right yah now an dat coupled wid di homegrown hell is enuff fi mek even di lawd come dung offa di crass an seh enuff is enuff

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">competence is the least of the issue...afta all Obama is brilliant an still di US naw see no real shift wid all di money whe trow bout...

Bruce a ketch imported hell right yah now an dat coupled wid di homegrown hell is enuff fi mek even di lawd come dung offa di crass an seh enuff is enuff </div></div>

The USA and Jamaica's problems are not interchangeable.
The POTUSA and the PMOJ is not really are equitable positions.
Barack took office in January Gelding has been in Office for over 18 months.

Jamaica's problems are over two decades old, Gelding has not solved any, made no good attempts to solve any and have now owned the problems, just as Barack will do if he stays in Office for 18 months and have not made any material change to what he inherited.

[evanovitch]

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again let me explain the thought process...not every example is an attempt to mek tings interchangeable...di point remains dat even wid di bess of available resources a brilliant man wi still ha di said problems one wid none wi encounter

r u such a literal person...neva noticed it before...but den, i have neva really paid attention before too...

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">be careful wat u wish fah</span>.....poor ting...look how long him wanted di wuk an now him get it it a buss him shut fi real...dang ...poor mi country fi real </div></div>

Mr. Seaga was right about him, he is incompetent, but he was legally elected. </div></div>This is not about competence.
It is all about the amount of changes required brfore theresult of the changes are apparent. The system is th eproblem. Any Jamaican leader that survives the charhing of the colonial 2 tier system will start th eimprovement process. If th enajodity is not involved although they don;t have the major power. It stil won;t work,all they have to do is to throw a few stick in the spokes and slow the process everyy time you have to stop to remove it.
They underestimate the untelligence of the locals. they can at lerast read. In the days when the locals was mostkly illiterate they beought the economy to a standstill, Why they think that they won't use the same cunninf (plat fool)m to do it again?
They forgogt that They rioted against the same unequal treatment with the US Navy And US Army,during war 2 in Jamaica and In the USA??
As lon

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not about competence.
It is all about the amount of changes required brfore theresult of the changes are apparent. The system is th eproblem. Any Jamaican leader that survives the charhing of the colonial 2 tier system will start th eimprovement process. If th enajodity is not involved although they don;t have the major power. It stil won;t work,all they have to do is to throw a few stick in the spokes and slow the process everyy time you have to stop to remove it.
They underestimate the untelligence of the locals. they can at lerast read. In the days when the locals was mostkly illiterate they beought the economy to a standstill, Why they think that they won't use the same cunninf (plat fool)m to do it again?
They forgogt that They rioted against the same unequal treatment with the US Navy And US Army,during war 2 in Jamaica and In the USA??
As lon </div></div>

Yaawn you are talking nonsense I don't see Colonial Master shooting persons on the street in Jamaica.
Gelding is incompetent in is choice of Candidates, the constitution of his Cabinet and running the Country all of which were pointed out to him in early days.

The guy is nothing more than a media creation and a figment of his own narcissistic imagination.

[Tuff Gong]

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<a href="http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/tools/breakingnews/bnm.asp?bn=845" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Ministerial resignations amid Cabinet reshuffle</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Jamaica Observer
Posted: 4/6/2009 3:09:03 PM</span></a>

Derrick Smith (Mining and Telecommunications), Clive Mullings (Energy) and Trevor MacMillan (National Security) have all resigned their ministerial posts and Cabinet reshuffled, the Office of the Prime Minister announced today.

Dwight Nelson has been appointed Minister of National Security; James Robertson, Minister of Energy and Mining; Olivia 'Babsy' Grange, Minister of Youth, Sports and Culture and Daryl Vaz, Minister without Portfolio in the OPM.

The portfolios of Information and Telecommunications which were part of the former Ministries of Information, Culture, Youth and Sports and Mining and Telecommunications, respectively, have been transferred to the OPM and will be overseen by Vaz.

Senator Don Wheby will return to the Grace Kennedy Group having completed his two-year seccondment as Minister without Portfolio (Finance) at the end of July. He will continue to advise Government.

Andrew Holness, Minister of Education, has been appointed Leader of the House of Representatives.

The Ministry of Agriculture has been re-designated the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries

[evanovitch]

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u know doc, the colonial raping of the resources and all monies generated from said aborted any real stawt di island had...dat is a given

but the continued practice by homegrown is enuff fi we stop cite juss di colonial period as di problem...fi real

di fact remains dat Jcans r selling JA out at every level dat u can tink of....i see people bigging up peeps who run a likkle ting a yaad even while no taxes, however small being paid...it stawt from di noncompliance wid di customs man to di wuk dem fi 6 monts , leff fi awhile etc...from dat level to di bauxite etal,we dweet to ourselves and help oddas dweet to us

mi feel it fi Walker cause him a try get taxes paid but nuff no want fi see it happen...dem stawt shoot afta customs worker now a di wharf...not di bad ones of course

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....di point remains dat even wid di bess of available resources a brilliant man wi still ha di said problems one wid none wi encounter</div></div>Competence and Qualifications are not words that a necessarily interchangeable.

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....di point remains dat even wid di bess of available resources a brilliant man wi still ha di said problems one wid none wi encounter</div></div>Competence and Qualifications are not words that a necessarily interchangeable. </div></div>

yet we site the qualifications when saying dat dem is di one fi di job, thereby putting di competence into play....of couse di we etc is generic...wasn't one of the much touted drawbaks of GW his C average school achievements?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yet we site the qualifications when saying dat dem is di one fi di job...</div></div>
We who cite the specific example?
I am talking about <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Gelding</span> he is not a competent leader!

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

some would seh him is of di ole school of Jcans who ha some moral conscience etc etc etc...hence him no fit een wid di wink an nod whe gwane fi leaders dese days....not as licky licky </div></div>
He was not doing a good job period. There was rampant corruption in the force under him and the police force was busy killing Jamaicans like never before.<span style="font-weight: bold"> I don't think his personal honesty was ever in question </span>just his performance. </div></div>

ah sah...let mi explain my thought process.....if u r too honourable in Ja , wen it come to fighting corruption, dose who dont ha di said sense of honour, will not not work in conjunction wid u but against u efforts.....the force is rife wid dose who r not willing to let go of tried an tru selfenriching practises....couple dat across the board an u can see why he would feel stymied

afta all, dem juss admitting dat 20 policemen were involved in the lottery scams etc...an dat is juss di blue collar crimes...the upper echelon crimes r a whole odda kettle of fish </div></div> As you talk about the 20 police. Did you notice that it was niot even the police that discover it?
Did you notince thatit was the boy they arrested decided to bus pan them,since they beat him up.
He was lucky enoigh to survive?? Anywher that any one group are given weapons will be currupted to the point where only civil war will undo that corruption. They have used others before and killed them blaming them for the crime. He is not the forst. The ,majoroty of the shakedown of the cutiuzens by driminals are run by police officers. They use criminals as front. But they kill them as soon as they get too hot. Or they give out the policemen names.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know doc, the colonial raping of the resources and all monies generated from said aborted any real stawt di island had...dat is a given...</div></div>
This is same mindless reasoning that is used to justify where we are now as against where we are coming from.
So we are to literally accept that the Former Colonial Master mash up the country?
Why don't we reset to days of the Native Jamaicans?
Would we be here today?

Singapore was behind us at our Independence, they had no resources was a colony wracked with corruption and crime.
So telling was our progress then, that the Singaporean Leader came to Jamaica to see what we were doing right, yet 30 years on they are miles ahead of us and we have reversed.

The Caribbean, including Cuba experience nearly 2 decades of growth yet we with the USA 180 miles off our shore and favourable wind have regressed not progressed.

It was not the Colonial Master that raped Jamaica and sold Air Jamaica's prime slots to a Virgin Airline.
It was not the Colonial Masters that on-sold our bauxite for pennies in a rising market and locked us into a 20-year agreement for a product that will run out in 50 years.

[evanovitch]

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TG, if u tek di opening statment an seperate it from the BUT, u get ur statements....

repeating wat i said , even if done at length is juss dat..repeating wat i said ....repeating as in sayin the said ting i said after the but

wow, u fight against the tide wen u drowning to even if told it is better to float along until r wat...i remain in awe fi real....