You are being lied to about the Pirates

**jah_yout** · 04-14-2009, 05:18 PM

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it saddens me to see so many people rejoice ove their deaths;
i don't agree with the hostage taking, but i admire these guys for standing up to these nations who consider africa their dumping groiund and blacks as nobodies in their power game;

the somalis took a stand...i'm not so sure we in the caribbean would if it were our waters these countries were treating like their personal playground;

they may soon go on land after them, but remember blackhawk down...
they will fight

**ILP** · 04-14-2009, 05:22 PM

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segal very interesting article.

i wouldnt put it past the US and other "developed" nations to be dumping and killing off the fishing industry that these countries rely on as a means to support themselves.
however, i am also not in support of hijacking ships, holding hostages and demanding ransom as a means to doing something about it. they have 200+ plus hostage, fi wah?
i can only speak about this last ship, it was on its way to kenya with food and other relief supplies for kenya, some other country (whose name is escaping me at this moment) and <span style="font-weight: bold">somalia</span>.

what makes it even worse, is that the one hijacker that they "captured/surrendered" is but a child of 16. wha im a do wid AK47?

mi sarry, but dem did need fi dead in these circumstances.

interesting article indeed. carry on.

**Yuriatin** · 04-14-2009, 05:35 PM

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With you on that ILP.

Last week, pirates took some hostages and killed a father. Wife is still alive.

Yes the US and other places are doing much dirt.

ALWAYS have and probably always will - it's a shame.

But 2 wrongs don't make it right.

No matter the dirt that's been done, it's not reason enuff to kill that man, Klinghoffer or anyone else by taking them hostage from an oil tanker, cruise ship or whatever sailing vessel ... and committing murder.

JY - I know you admire their taking a stand - I can kinda see what your saying. But if it were your loved one, kidnapped from a ship - held hostage or killed, I'd be surprised if you still admired them for making a stand.

**sagal** · 04-14-2009, 05:36 PM

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I'm not condoning the hijacking as well. It's not right but I understand their plight. This article has given me insight into the issue. No country should be allowed to dump hazardous waste into any country waters. Its just not right.

**Yuriatin** · 04-14-2009, 05:39 PM

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<span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Holiday hell as pirates attack couple, kill husband</span>
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Linda Robertson, 57, has described her ordeal from her hospital bed as she recovers from the experience, telling how she was required to show the pirates operate the boat and how one of her captors repeatedly apologised as she was 'trussed up naked like a chicken'.
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Mrs Robertson's husband, Malcolm, 64, is missing, believed dead after he was attacked with a hammer, had his throat slit, and was thrown into the water. His body is yet to be found.</span>

The couple had been sailing around the world since 1998 before being attacked on Monday in the Malacca Strait, a body of water notorious for piracy, running between mainland South-East Asia and Indonesia.

Mrs Robertson told the London Evening Standard she heard the pirates - three teenage Burmese migrant workers - climb aboard the boat and then scuffle with her husband.

'I heard a scuffle and did not hear any more. They came back to me and made signs to me to start the engine, which I did,' she said.

'There was no sign of my husband. I waited and listened and I think this was the first time I realised he might be dead.

'First they wanted to know how the fuel system worked, and I showed them. They did not know where the switches were.
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'But as I walked through the boat I realised I was walking through the blood of my husband.'</span>

Mrs Roberston said she asked her captors, via gestures, if they planned to kill her too but they made signs to say they wouldn't.

While she admitted her own experience was 'degrading', when you are faced by the threat of dying, 'all such matters become secondary', she explained.

After the pirates left on a rubber dinghy, Mrs Robertson said she steered her yacht towards some fishing boats.

'I pulled Mr Bean alongside one of the boats. I jumped off my boat onto the fishing boat. I would not go back to my boat. I did not want to feel Malcolm's blood on my feet.'

Police soon arrested the pirates and said the men were Burmese migrant workers who had been working with a local fishing fleet, Mrs Robertson said.

Police have charged the trio with aggravated assault and illegal migrant worker status, but will only charge them with murder if Mr Robertson's body is found, Sky News said.

Mrs Robertson's brother, John Clee, described the robbery at sea as 'a stupid, pathetic thing, because they were just trying to pinch a few credit cards and computer things'.

Violent pirate attacks are common in Thailand but often go unreported, according to intelligence analyst, Graeme Gibbon-Brooks who says the fatal attack on Mr and Mrs Robertson is not unusual for the area.

He said: 'Piracy is a crime of opportunism so a slow-moving yacht that isn’t expecting to be robbed would be an attractive target. Attacks like this are probably reasonably common but the majority of them are on local fishermen and often go unreported. What is most shocking is the level of violence, but that is not uncommon for this area.'

He said figures released by the International Maritime Bureau’s Piracy Reporting Centre (PRC) showed the three main areas which suffer pirate attacks are Nigeria, the Horn of Africa and south-east Asia.

More at http://www.icc-ccs.org/

**sagal** · 04-14-2009, 05:39 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it saddens me to see so many people rejoice ove their deaths;
<span style="font-weight: bold">i don't agree with the hostage taking, but i admire these guys for standing up to these nations who consider africa their dumping groiund and blacks as nobodies in their power game</span>;

the somalis took a stand...i'm not so sure we in the caribbean would if it were our waters these countries were treating like their personal playground;

they may soon go on land after them, but remember blackhawk down...
they will fight </div></div>

"Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our toxic waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome? We won't act on those crimes – the only sane solution to this problem – but when some of the fishermen responded by disrupting the transit-corridor for 20 per cent of the world's oil supply, we swiftly send in the gunboats"

**jah_yout** · 04-14-2009, 05:39 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 212_Finish_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what makes it even worse, is that the one hijacker that they "captured/surrendered" is but a child of 16. wha im a do wid AK47?

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younga dan dat have m-16 a yaad too;

but the difference is those guys in yaad would only turn the gun on another black brother....

i don't condone the taking of hostages and they have not killed anyone...maybe one person in all this time and certainly no americans...
so everyone is very happy they are dead;
obama can give the order to kill 3 young black yutes as he bows to arabs and whites...

but mi jussa cool caw likkle more fire might haffi bun

**Yuriatin** · 04-14-2009, 05:42 PM

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And actually - this chap in the article that I posted is not even the one I was thinking about - it's a different fellow that was killed in front of his wife.

I'll post it if I find it.

**gourmet** · 04-14-2009, 05:43 PM

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Yuri, don't confuse the violent pirates of SEA with the Somali pirates, who treat their prisoners rather well, like provising them with phones to call their families, and who simply want the ransom money.

**Yuriatin** · 04-14-2009, 05:44 PM

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I'm not confused.

**ILP** · 04-14-2009, 05:48 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 212_Finish_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what makes it even worse, is that the one hijacker that they "captured/surrendered" is but a child of 16. wha im a do wid AK47?

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younga dan dat have m-16 a yaad too;

but the difference is those guys in yaad would only turn the gun on another black brother....

i don't condone the taking of hostages and <span style="font-weight: bold">they have not killed anyone...maybe one person in all this time and certainly no americans...</span>
so everyone is very happy they are dead;
obama can give the order to kill 3 young black yutes as he bows to arabs and whites...

but mi jussa cool caw likkle more fire might haffi bun </div></div>

weh you get dat fram?

ahn on di point of obama giving order...mi nuh even blieve daht im shoulda haffi do daht.
why im haffi give directive? di ship wasnt going somalia...it was going kenya?
wah dem a try board it fah? someting did on deh fi dem?
oh food and supplies.
but dem neva want daht. dem want money fi buy wah?
standing order need fi give as far as me concern...you (ship) a pass through ahn smaddy try tek ova you tings...light whoeva dem be up. period.
but ah juss so me seet.

**sagal** · 04-14-2009, 05:49 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 212_Finish_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what makes it even worse, is that the one hijacker that they "captured/surrendered" is but a child of 16. wha im a do wid AK47?

</div></div>

younga dan dat have m-16 a yaad too;

but the difference is those guys in yaad would only turn the gun on another black brother....

i don't condone the taking of hostages and they have not killed anyone...maybe one person in all this time and certainly no americans...
so everyone is very happy they are dead;
<span style="font-weight: bold">obama can give the order to kill 3 young black yutes as he bows to arabs and whites...</span>but mi jussa cool caw likkle more fire might haffi bun </div></div>

I don't think Obama gave any orders to kill them!!! I was watching CNN yesterday and they were commenting on Obama's lack of response to the issue

**jah_yout** · 04-14-2009, 05:49 PM

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Yuri with all due respect those were NOT somali pirates...the somalis have not been killing anyone...

now they might start though

**jah_yout** · 04-14-2009, 05:50 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 212_Finish_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 212_Finish_ILP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what makes it even worse, is that the one hijacker that they "captured/surrendered" is but a child of 16. wha im a do wid AK47?

</div></div>

younga dan dat have m-16 a yaad too;

but the difference is those guys in yaad would only turn the gun on another black brother....

i don't condone the taking of hostages and <span style="font-weight: bold">they have not killed anyone...maybe one person in all this time and certainly no americans...</span>
so everyone is very happy they are dead;
obama can give the order to kill 3 young black yutes as he bows to arabs and whites...

but mi jussa cool caw likkle more fire might haffi bun </div></div>

weh you get dat fram?

ahn on di point of obama giving order...mi nuh even blieve daht im shoulda haffi do daht.
why im haffi give directive? di ship wasnt going somalia...it was going kenya?
wah dem a try board it fah? someting did on deh fi dem?
oh food and supplies.
but dem neva want daht. dem want money fi buy wah?
standing order need fi give as far as me concern...you (ship) a pass through ahn smaddy try tek ova you tings...light whoeva dem be up. period.
but ah juss so me seet.
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you posted about burmese pirates...NOT SOMALIS;

the somalis have not been killing

You are being lied to about the Pirates

You are being lied to about the Pirates

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