You are being lied to about the Pirates

[seemiyah]

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...also if the captain had been black I am sure we would have heard, how come they taking so long to rescue him? Is because him black why they taking so long and if he were white they would have shot them on the first day.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Everything is a conspiracy with you. So the CIA still piloted the planes into the world trade centers? </div></div>

i never said that and it is not for me to know what really happened there...
the governments of the world have enough dirty secrets without me trying to speculate;
all i know is they thought they could walk all over the somalis like they do all other african (including caribbean) countries but got a rude surprise

[Boricua_papi]

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A victory is a victory and the warlords won. Now, perhaps they can get back to enjoying the peace and prosperity that the hard earned victory bestowed upon the nation of Somalia.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: seemiyah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...also if the captain had been black I am sure we would have heard, how come they taking so long to rescue him? Is because him black why they taking so long and if he were white they would have shot them on the first day. </div></div>

it doesn't matter his color to me...and i don't give these pirates the right in taking hostages;
i'm just looking at the bigger picture...
i don't know the details of how/why they were killed;
but everyone expects them to just be good africans and let the more powerful countries do as they please around their seas...
as if those countries would let the africans do that with the same impunity..

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
JY - I know you admire their taking a stand - I can kinda see what your saying. But if it were your loved one, kidnapped from a ship - held hostage or killed, I'd be surprised if you still admired them for making a stand.

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I would accept the fact that my loved one is doing my countries dirty work just the same as these pirates. The Somalians also have loved one and many more loved ones as those others for sure </div></div>

Dirty work? Delivering aid is dirty work? </div></div>

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Isnt it? Is aid worker that spy, kidnap, infest etc. cut and cure business.

[Boricua_papi]

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Then aid agencies should just stop and pull out. They do more harm than good, apparently.

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Then aid agencies should just stop and pull out. They do more harm than good, apparently. </div></div>
exactly and they should also take their social aids with them, like religion.

It is as if all of a sudden white people come into existence, Africans cant live without them

not even Africans, blacks

[Gen]

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<span style="font-weight: bold">agreed !! all aid agencies should pull out. time fi africa pull harself up by har boots. </span>



In Dead Aid, Dambisa Moyo describes the state of postwar development policy in Africa today and unflinchingly confronts one of the greatest myths of our time: that billions of dollars in aid sent from wealthy countries to developing African nations has helped to reduce poverty and increase growth. In fact, poverty levels continue to escalate and growth rates have steadily declined—and millions continue to suffer.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Provocatively drawing a sharp contrast between African countries that have rejected the aid route and prospered and others that have become aid-dependent and seen poverty increase, Moyo illuminates the way in which overreliance on aid has trapped developing nations in a vicious circle of aid dependency, corruption, market distortion, and further </span>poverty, leaving them with nothing but the “need” for more aid.

Debunking the current model of international aid promoted by both Hollywood celebrities and policy makers, Moyo offers a bold new road map for financing development of the world’s poorest countries that guarantees economic growth and a significant decline in poverty—without reliance on foreign aid or aid-related assistance.

[rufian]

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[Morpheous]

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Thanks for sharing. Good article.

I was under the impression that they weren't Somali 'pirates' but gangsters. When people are reduced to nothing with no infrastructure and nothing else to lose the tables will turn.

[Boricua_papi]

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http://www.usaid.gov/stories/lesotho/fp_lesotho_drought.html

Hope you are right Kia. And if hundreds of thousands starve during a particularly intense drought then, at least, they can starve with dignity.

[Morpheous]

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&quot;Somali pirates have accused European firms of dumping toxic waste off the Somali coast and are demanding an $8m ransom for the return of a Ukranian ship they captured, saying the money will go towards cleaning up the waste&quot;.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Mafia involvement</span>
&quot;However, Mustafa Tolba, the former UNEP executive director, told Al Jazeera that he discovered the firms were set up as fictitious companies by larger industrial firms to dispose of hazardous waste. At the time, it felt like we were dealing with the Mafia, or some sort of organised crime group, possibly working with these industrial firms,&quot; he said. Nations have found it difficult to tackle the problem of piracy [AFP]. It was very shady, and quite underground, and I would agree with Ould-Abdallah’s claims that it is still going on... Unfortunately the war has not allowed environmental groups to investigate this fully.&quot; The Italian mafia controls an estimated 30 per cent of Italy's waste disposal companies, including those that deal with toxic waste&quot;.

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[Gen]

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which toxic waste dem out deh a try clean up

why people muss galang suh ?

why dem nuh juss seh dem a use the money fi feed dem family, provide micro loans and purchase weapons?

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">which toxic waste dem out deh a try clean up

why people muss galang suh ?

why dem nuh juss seh dem a use the money fi feed dem family, provide micro loans and purchase weapons?

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dem versed in politics a mussa green peace

[ILP]

Re: You are being lied to about the Pirates

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">which toxic waste dem out deh a try clean up

why people muss galang suh ?

<span style="font-weight: bold">why dem nuh juss seh dem a use the money fi feed dem family, provide micro loans and purchase weapons?</span> </div></div>

prezackly.
dis a what hot mi more time.
mi blieve daht the develop world a dump inna dem watas, but who dem a try fool bout di ransome is fi clean up?