UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

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Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bruce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They obviously doesnt like to hear the truth </div></div>

The <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">truth</span></span> from a man who denies the Holocaust happened?
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But it didnt,....millions more russians died in the war,but they dont continue to bleat and whine about it.

[uswe]

Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bruce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They obviously doesnt like to hear the truth </div></div>

The <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">truth</span></span> from a man who denies the Holocaust happened?
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But it didnt,....millions more russians died in the war,but they dont continue to bleat and whine about it. </div></div>


Stalin murdered millions more of his people than died in the Holocaust!

[Derek]

Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bruce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

They obviously doesnt like to hear the truth </div></div>

The <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">truth</span></span> from a man who denies the Holocaust happened?
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But it didnt,....millions more russians died in the war,but they dont continue to bleat and whine about it. </div></div>


Stalin murdered millions more of his people than died in the Holocaust!

Far more Christians died in WWII than any other.

[uswe]

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Makes you wonder if the &quot;Western&quot; military powers would have been so eager in their support of Jews in the creation of Isreal if they were non European

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Didn't see any 'blacks' or asians walking out</span>. </div></div>

obama not black?
yu tunn blakkgiant? </div></div>
LOL Obama was not there was he? So him neva walk out lol. In Obama's case he did specifically and publicly said he want to seek mutual respect and dialogue with Iran and the Iranian president.

[Emperah]

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amadenajad (sp?) was the only head of state in the place, that is why he spoke first.

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bruce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The truth from a man who denies the Holocaust happened?</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nuetral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But it didnt,....millions more russians died in the war,but they dont continue to bleat and whine about it.</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stalin murdered millions more of his people than died in the Holocaust! </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Far more Christians died in WWII than any other.</div></div>

Millions and millions more died during slavery - and it is not discussed regularly in the media and world wide in comparison to the other atrocities in world history.

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amadenajad (sp?) was the only head of state in the place, that is why he spoke first.
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OK, my understanding was ALL the heads of state were invited to attend and discuss the agenda. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was invited as an elected head of state to speak as he has the right like any other UN member/head of state. They knew what he was gonna say before hand so the US, UK and Isrealis boycotted the meeting by not turning up.

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Millions and millions more died during slavery - and it is not discussed regularly in the media and world wide in comparison to the other atrocities in world history. </div></div>

not discussed at all in the media, dats why dem walk out.
But dem cyan bring up de holocaust every year an nobody seh a ting.

[Emperah]

Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">amadenajad (sp?) was the only head of state in the place, that is why he spoke first.
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OK, my understanding was ALL the heads of state were invited to attend discuss the agenda. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was invited as a head of state to speak as he has the right like any other UN member/head of state. They knew what he was gonna say before hand so the US, UK and Isrealis boycotted the meeting by not turning up. </div></div>

Yes he was the only head of state there, all the other countries sent delegates not heads of states, Irans was the only one there.

[jah_yout]

Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Didn't see any 'blacks' or asians walking out</span>. </div></div>

obama not black?
yu tunn blakkgiant? </div></div>
LOL Obama was not there was he? So him neva walk out lol. </div></div>

he walked out in advance...
he/the u.s.a. boycotted the conference, along with canada

[Morpheous]

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Zeen... So them use the delegates probably under instructions to walk out if he said what they suspected he was going to say. As Dr. Dudd said, its a good way to sideline and divert attention regrettably from the heads of state who did not sit down and discuss the topic &quot;HardTalk&quot; style with meaningful solutions for all concerned.

Wonder how Obama is meditating over this one and his next move.

[Emperah]

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<span style="font-size: 17pt">Why the US will boycott global racism conference</span>

A meeting to judge progress on racism is likely to be captive to Israeli-Palestinian and Islamic defamation issues.


Bratislava, Slovakia - The first World Conference Against Racism, held in 2001 in Durban, South Africa, was all but derailed when the Israeli-Palestinian conflict took center stage.

The second global meeting against racism, discrimination, and xenophobia, which starts Monday, is on shaky ground over the same question. Over the weekend, the United States and the Netherlands pulled their delegations. Australia, Israel, Canada, Sweden and Italy have said they also may boycott the UN forum in Geneva.

The week-long event is also in trouble over the issue of religious defamation, specifically the portrayal of Islam in Western nations.

The 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is expected to accuse the West of Islamophobia and press to restrict criticism of Islam. If this happens, it may upstage discussion of all other topics.

At the 2001 conference, the fight over whether the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was racist often drowned out grievances from minorities such as the Roma of Europe, the &quot;untouchables&quot; of India, and the indigenous tribes of South America.

Ayca Ariyoruk, a senior associate at the United Nations Association, a pro-UN think tank, says it will be up to the OIC to &quot;resist the temptation to bring up issues that have proven to be very divisive.&quot; A citizen of Turkey, as is the OIC secretary-general, she adds, &quot;This conference needs to focus on what can unite countries, not divide them.&quot;

Dutch try to save the meeting

In March, with some European nations mulling over a boycott, the Dutch put forward a draft of the conference declaration that removed direct references to Israel. It also removed language condemning religious defamation, language that some saw as an imposition on free speech.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay welcomed the revisions, noting that despite &quot;sustained and sometimes distorted criticisms&quot; of the Durban process, states should &quot;refrain from taking narrow politicized or polemical stances.&quot;

The OIC, for its part, has stated that the five-day Durban review conference &quot;should not be a politically motivated process or an anti-Semitic exercise&quot; but &quot;an inclusive process, where all stakeholders should be free to address the real and serious challenges of racism, racial discrimination, and xenophobia.&quot;

Nevertheless, some observers expect the OIC to advance its own agenda.

&quot;I don't think they'll be able to resist grandstanding in that type of spotlight, but whether they're successful in amending the final document is another story,&quot; says Brett Schaefer, an analyst with The Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank.

The original conference in Durban is mostly remembered for the impassioned nongovernmental organization forum that preceded the diplomatic gathering. Some pro-Palestinian supporters passed out fliers containing a photograph of Hitler captioned, &quot;What if I had won? There would be no Israel and no Palestinian bloodshed.&quot; Thousands of NGO delegates approved a document that branded Israel guilty of genocide, apartheid, and other war crimes.

Then-UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson found the forum recommendations so toxic she refused to &quot;forward&quot; them on to the governments.

Often forgotten is the fact that the gathered diplomats stripped out the most incendiary anti-Israel language. Yet the final document, under the heading &quot;Victims of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance&quot; did cite &quot;the plight of the Palestinian people.&quot; In the context of an antiracism proclamation, Israel's defenders say this implied racism, and the text identified no other state.

In a statement released Saturday, the US State Department cited the 2001 Durban text in explaining its withdrawal from this conference. That document &quot;singles out one particular conflict and prejudges key issues that can only be resolved in negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians,&quot; it said. And since the draft document for this meeting is based on the previous meeting's, the US could not participate.

Defamation of Islam?

Meanwhile, Islamic concerns have grown. First came post-9/11 &quot;ethnic profiling&quot;; then the 2005 Danish cartoons that depicted the prophet Muhammad as a terrorist. Some Muslim clerics rallied followers to stage anti-Western protests that turned violent. In what some see as a sign of what will happen at the racism conference, in late March the UN Human Rights Council approved a Pakistan-sponsored resolution that condemned &quot;defamation of religions,&quot; citing Islam and the cartoon firestorm.

And pro-Israel activists say this time they're better prepared. They'll bring out some of the most visible defenders of Israel, such as Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel and Harvard University professor Alan Dershowitz. Plus, they'll co-sponsor a &quot;Conference Against Racism, Discrimination, and Persecution,&quot; which will include speakers such as Martin Luther King III and French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy. The goal is to project a more positive image of the Jewish state, says one Israeli involved.

&quot;Durban went far beyond legitimate criticism, as terms like racist, apartheid, and 'the new South Africa' created this feeling in Israel that the world is against us,&quot; says Gerald Steinberg, executive director of the Jerusalem-based NGO Monitor. &quot;If that impact can be reversed in Geneva, it could lead to greater willingness among Israelis to interact with the UN.&quot;

Though the recent war in Gaza fueled sympathy for Palestinians, some question whether or not racism plays a role in that struggle. To supporters of Palestinians, there's no doubt. &quot;We all believe racism and racial discrimination, not just ideology, is what drives Israeli policy and practices,&quot; says Ingrid Gassner Jaradat, director of the Bethlehem-based BADIL Resource Center for Palestinian Residency and Refugee Rights.

&quot;Since people here feel a lot of similarities with the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, one would expect that at an antiracism conference, Israel would be on the agenda.&quot;

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0419/p06s01-wogn.html

[Emperah]

Re: UN members walked out on Iranian president speach

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeen... So them use the delegates probably under instructions to walk out if he said what they suspected he was going to say. As Dr. Dudd said, its a good way to sideline and divert attention regrettably from the heads of state who did not sit down and discuss the topic &quot;HardTalk&quot; style with meaningful solutions for all concerned.

Wonder how Obama is meditating over this one and his next move. </div></div>

Obama doesn't care bout blk ppl, an ppl need fi learn dis. Any so called head of state who cyan tell feem ppl to boycott a conference on racism when they just drew his backside as a dead monley inna NY paypah...

-when dem shoot one blk man in oakland booom right pan tv fi de world to see an him di deh pan de ground face down...

- when gun buying spikes because someone who looks blk is now president

- when yuh cyan want to war wid somalia ppl an deal wid de real truth of the problem

- who allow AFRICOM to get a foot hold in Afrika...

doesn't care about helping the ppl his bloodline is from one iota and will lowe de bush regime to get weh wid wah dem duh
is nuttin but a blasted puppet...a chocolate covered puppet.

[Morpheous]

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You know... given the heading <span style="font-weight: bold">Why the US will boycott global racism conference</span> is why I repeat, how Obama is meditating over the issue and what his next move will be. He spent a lot of time touring europe and I watched them all, saying he prefer dialogue to confrontation and the fact that a man of his colour with a name like his was inconceivable a a few years ago to become president of the usa; was it Obama's decision to boycott the UN meeting as head of state for the USA or was it forced upon him by his 'advisors'.

Obama also stressed whilst in europe that a lot of the hatred was old baggage from old mentalities going back hundreds of years in some cases where people are still bitter. He mentioned that people from the old school of thought need to die out and the new generation with new uninfluenced mentality to take over and build the bridges of peace, equality and respect.