Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

did you see the post where the poorexcuse for a human beat the woman in her head with dutch pot until she drank the acid and killed her?? here is the link.
Right here
That is what have been happening in these garrisons ruled by criminals.
This is what people have to undergo just to make sure rthat they survive and are there to suport their children and see them become adults..
They are not irresponsible enough to die and leave their kids ot resort to the same depravity to survive.

[neutral]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a rather ugly thread, and some of the nonsense that is spouted here.

All mi agguh seh is diss..is a bounding shame an disgrace what is gwaaning...<span style="font-weight: bold">Even in prisons tuh rah-co-lilly, there is a code of honour, ie if you are a child molester or baby killer, you are automatically marked to be hurt..retribution; because there are certain crimes that just won't be tolerated....so dem lack dem DUNG in solitary confinement. just fi proteck dem....and save them from other criminals</span>

THAT IS COMING FROM PRISONERS. MOST OF WHOM ARE CONVICTED AND GUILTY CRIMINALS..
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As you quite rightly point out even in prison amongst hardened criminals there is a certain code,... no children,or old people,but it would seem that here on jamaicans.com amongst a few people anyone is easy meat as long as they can be used to justify some people`s warped agenda.

[rudemonk]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

doc I would like to tell you that your definition of courage is somewhat limited.

courage is not limited to soldiers and sovereign battlefields, nor is it always a result of being brainwashed.

[gourmet]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

Dr. Dudd wrote:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And one more thing, the Jamaican poor have always been repressed,during colonial days.
They riot every now again but fir the most part they accepted the harassment of the occupation force that was masquerading as police dept.
They have never had a police department that represented their rights. they actually had no human rights,. since they were never citizens they were subjects of an unelected monarch,and still are under the
guise of Jamaican citizens. They are first British subjects, with no right of citizenship,being fooled in believing that they are citizens. They certainly are still suppressed, by the local police and the local criminals. And that is not restricted to those in the
ghettos either. Every single person who are forced to live behind iron bars, High fences, with security officers watching their every safety, are simply in jails
Yes they are in prison.
they are not free to go where they wish.
they have to get home by curfew,all because of fear.
every single subject that lives under those conditions are afraid. </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dr. Dudd wrote:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And one more thing, the Jamaican poor have always been repressed,during colonial days.
They riot every now again but fir the most part they accepted the harassment of the occupation force that was masquerading as police dept.
They have never had a police department that represented their rights. they actually had no human rights,. since they were never citizens they were subjects of an unelected monarch,and still are under the
guise of Jamaican citizens. They are first British subjects, with no right of citizenship,being fooled in believing that they are citizens. They certainly are still suppressed, by the local police and the local criminals. And that is not restricted to those in the
ghettos either. Every single person who are forced to live behind iron bars, High fences, with security officers watching their every safety, are simply in jails
Yes they are in prison.
they are not free to go where they wish.
they have to get home by curfew,all because of fear.
every single subject that lives under those conditions are afraid. </div></div> </div></div> <span style="font-size: 14pt"> And.....</span>

[gourmet]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

And...what you wrote and I quoted deserved repeating. Well said. I'd never heard it summed up so neatly.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And...what you wrote and I quoted deserved repeating. Well said. I'd never heard it summed up so neatly. </div></div> Oh thank you..

[barosa]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And...what you wrote and I quoted deserved repeating. Well said. I'd never heard it summed up so neatly. </div></div>
Gourmet, they may be summed up &quot;nicely&quot; but what do they reflect?
<span style="font-style: italic">Dr. Dudd wrote:

Quote:
And one more thing, the Jamaican poor have always been repressed,during colonial days.
They riot every now again but fir the most part they accepted the harassment of the occupation force that was masquerading as police dept.
They have never had a police department that represented their rights. they actually had no human rights,. since they were never citizens they were subjects of an unelected monarch,and still are under the
guise of Jamaican citizens. They are first British subjects, with no right of citizenship,being fooled in believing that they are citizens. They certainly are still suppressed, by the local police and the local criminals. And that is not restricted to those in the
ghettos either. Every single person who are forced to live behind iron bars, High fences, with security officers watching their every safety, are simply in jails
Yes they are in prison.
they are not free to go where they wish.
they have to get home by curfew,all because of fear.
every single subject that lives under those conditions are afraid. </span>

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They are Dudd's words: But what do they really reflect? One man's opinion to equate todays's situation of <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;Crime, Gun-violence, Murder, Rape and Fear</span> under the DONS and GANGS with the situation under Colonialism... No one in their right mind should fall for that, because it's like comparing &quot;apples and Oranges&quot;. There are so many countries that suffered suppression under Colonialism and an &quot;un-elected&quot; monarch that has not adopted the &quot;Donmanship&quot; lifestyle and culture. So why are we so different that we had to RUSH headlong into such a system? One would think, that we would have had enough &quot;past repression&quot; that we would NOT need anymore and to boot, a &quot;New form&quot; infinetely Worst for &quot;law abiding&quot; Jamaicans than what we had in the past... Maybe we have become masochistic
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Freedom is just another word
for not having much to lose...

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And...what you wrote and I quoted deserved repeating. Well said. I'd never heard it summed up so neatly. </div></div>
Gourmet, they may be summed up &quot;nicely&quot; but what do they reflect?
<span style="font-style: italic">Dr. Dudd wrote:

Quote:
And one more thing, the Jamaican poor have always been repressed,during colonial days.
They riot every now again but fir the most part they accepted the harassment of the occupation force that was masquerading as police dept.
They have never had a police department that represented their rights. they actually had no human rights,. since they were never citizens they were subjects of an unelected monarch,and still are under the
guise of Jamaican citizens. They are first British subjects, with no right of citizenship,being fooled in believing that they are citizens. They certainly are still suppressed, by the local police and the local criminals. And that is not restricted to those in the
ghettos either. Every single person who are forced to live behind iron bars, High fences, with security officers watching their every safety, are simply in jails
Yes they are in prison.
they are not free to go where they wish.
they have to get home by curfew,all because of fear.
every single subject that lives under those conditions are afraid. </span>

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They are Dudd's words: But what do they really reflect? One man's opinion to equate todays's situation of <span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;Crime, Gun-violence, Murder, Rape and Fear</span> under the DONS and GANGS with the situation under Colonialism... No one in their right mind should fall for that, because it's like comparing &quot;apples and Oranges&quot;. There are so many countries that suffered suppression under Colonialism and an &quot;un-elected&quot; monarch that has not adopted the &quot;Donmanship&quot; lifestyle and culture. So why are we so different that we had to RUSH headlong into such a system? One would think, that we would have had enough &quot;past repression&quot; that we would NOT need anymore and to boot, a &quot;New form&quot; infinetely Worst for &quot;law abiding&quot; Jamaicans than what we had in the past... Maybe we have become masochistic
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Freedom is just another word
for not having much to lose... </div></div> Like India,Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Malasia, most of Africa.

the majoriry of thoise 0laces are suffering a similar fate. It is just that it is kept off the radar of the media.

I won't even mention those in the Caribbean. since officially they don't exist.

[Marielle]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

What's going to happen to those kids she was taking care of...?



I'm disturbed by this thread that a woman who would speak out against the gang rape of a 14-year-old girl, should be called an &quot;informer&quot;...........and therefore &quot;deserves&quot; her punishment.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marielle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's going to happen to those kids she was taking care of...?



I'm disturbed by this thread that a woman who would speak out against the gang rape of a 14-year-old girl, should be called an &quot;informer&quot;...........and therefore &quot;deserves&quot; her punishment.

</div></div> If she was given the usual treatment, you would be talking about bereavements now.

[barosa]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marielle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's going to happen to those kids she was taking care of...?



I'm disturbed by this thread that a woman who would speak out against the gang rape of a 14-year-old girl, should be called an &quot;informer&quot;...........and therefore &quot;deserves&quot; her punishment.

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Statements are made that &quot;Jamaicans are being robbed and killed daily and what made &quot;her&quot; think she would be immune from &quot;this&quot;, along with remarks to the effect that &quot;because she was an &quot;infarma&quot;, she had it comming. (paraphrasing) ~ This shows us how far down the road of <span style="font-weight: bold">degradation</span> WE have come, <span style="font-weight: bold">when it's no longer the right of any individual, farrina or local, to stand up for what is Right</span>... It would appear that We are slowly accepting the debauchery going awn dung a - Yaad as <span style="font-weight: bold">the new norm</span>... If the diaspora has begun to accept that, then we are in much &quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">DEEPER MANURE</span> &quot; than we thought possible...

By speaking out, NOT FOR HERSELF but for a child who should be protected from the criminal act of RAPE, This woman has been vilified as an &quot;infarma&quot; going against &quot;the community standard&quot;... It would appear that by default, we are now accepting the &quot;incivility&quot; of the Dons and criminals by not vociferously condemning their &quot;standards&quot;.... What has happened to the general &quot;community standard we used to have before &quot;Donmanship&quot; and THE GUN CULTURE took over?...
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It's not where you are from that matters.
it's where you are heading...

[jah_yout]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

or maybe the residents just fear the dons &amp; their foot-soldiers too much?

whatever the reasons, jamaica a mash up fast fast...

and who can save it locals don't?
certainly not the diaspora

[uswe]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">or maybe the residents just fear the dons &amp; their foot-soldiers too much?

whatever the reasons, jamaica a mash up fast fast...

and who can save it locals don't?
<span style="font-weight: bold">certainly not the diaspora </span></div></div>

The catalyst for change will have to come from within, it certainly wont come from this group!

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging sto

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">or maybe the residents just fear the dons &amp; their foot-soldiers too much?

whatever the reasons, jamaica a mash up fast fast...

and who can save it locals don't?
certainly not the diaspora </div></div> What I find is that the people who expect others to stand up before murderers willing to mow them down are the same ones that are so spineless that they even refuse to enter the country.
I mean they don't have to even go visit the communities.

They don't have to even see the murders, but they swear that they won't go to the country.
Yet in their hypocritical state they demand other s do what they are too afraid even to share the country where they may be many miles and still have the gall to belittle others who are faced with imminent death.