Homosexuals choose to be gay?

[julie*mango]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and there are other deeper, real evils that really are ruining our families and societies </div></div>

couldn't have said it any better

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The problem homosexuals will have with me is when they try to bring that stuff to me by way of an argument or debate to CONVINCE me rather than just state their reason for being an homosexual. After all, I have no interest in CONVINCING them to change and become straight. I rather they come out of the closet and be honest and true themselves and anybody else close to them they have been deceiving and hurting.

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The reason homosexuals are homosexual is because... now get ready for this ... <span style="color: #006600">THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY</span>. There you have it. That is my &quot;reason for being an homosexual&quot;. </div></div> There you go again making unsupported but popular statement,just after chastising another poster for not 'backing up' their statement.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoomBoomSkelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and there are other deeper, real evils that really are ruining our families and societies </div></div>

couldn't have said it any better </div></div>Are you sayiong that just because people have no power over the latger problems in society, they sould not object to the lesor ones?
So we can't stop murder, we shouldn't be so uptote about les dangerous acts as high taxes?

[RcOmK]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The problem homosexuals will have with me is when they try to bring that stuff to me by way of an argument or debate to CONVINCE me rather than just state their reason for being an homosexual. After all, I have no interest in CONVINCING them to change and become straight. I rather they come out of the closet and be honest and true themselves and anybody else close to them they have been deceiving and hurting.

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The reason homosexuals are homosexual is because... now get ready for this ... <span style="color: #006600">THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY</span>. There you have it. That is my &quot;reason for being an homosexual&quot;. </div></div> There you go again making unsupported but popular statement,just after chastising another poster for not 'backing up' their statement. </div></div>

lol

What i just wrote is unsupported? I'm gay! Shock of the century, i know . So <span style="color: #006600">I KNOW</span> that <span style="color: #006600">I</span> was <span style="color: #006600">BORN GAY</span>.
That's support! Unless there is someone on here who somehow was turned gay by some outside force

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The problem homosexuals will have with me is when they try to bring that stuff to me by way of an argument or debate to CONVINCE me rather than just state their reason for being an homosexual. After all, I have no interest in CONVINCING them to change and become straight. I rather they come out of the closet and be honest and true themselves and anybody else close to them they have been deceiving and hurting.</div></div>
That is my &quot;reason for being an homosexual&quot;. </div></div>
The truth shall set you free.
Je pense aussi que vous êtes homosexuel activiste, mais je ne vais pas vous appuyez sur cette question, ce n'est pas important.

[julie*mango]

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[julie*mango]

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[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoomBoomSkelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IF HOMOSEXUALS BOTHER SOME PEOPLE SO MUCH THEN THEY NEED TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND STOP BEING PUNKS AND GO KILL ALL OF THEM problem solved


cowards </div></div>That is what I say too.
Same for the ones who are so bothered by the white black issue.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I won't pretend to know anything about what you experienced. The most tortuous thing I ever experienced was splits training. It was definitely tortuous but I chose it. Sorry to hear your path brought you into those situations.

I do have empathy with you, a friend of mine was faced with similar and she was brutally taken from us. her loss has me in a very very dark place sometimes. Sometimes I wonder if that is not a mercy in a way considering what she was put through.

So while there are such real evil things going on about, and sometimes whole communities might be culpable, I could really care not a whit over who is homo or all this stupid boom bye bye posturing. It's meaningless, even pavlovian. Gays are not ruining our societies, people need to stop mapping their personal likes/dislikes on deities, and there are other deeper, real evils that really are ruining our families and societies. I think homosexuality as an issue should fall at the bottom of the list of what should get people upset. Fortunately this seems to be the trend as people and their cultures evolve. </div></div>

I happened to have the good fortune to be born and raised in Jamaica at a point and place where violence was commonplace. Many Jamaicans got tortured simply because a mob accused them of all kinds of misdeeds, sans proof.
I was stationed at the Spanish Town and the HWT Stations in my career as a cop where there were rooms were suspects were routinely tortured; many men were shocked around the genitals or beaten on the bottom of their feet.
Of course in the streets the accusations, the beatings and threats never let up either.

Today is homos; the next day it is pickpocket or political affiliation. It easy once you accept extra-judicial, random violence as a way of life to extend that to any cause, any human being.

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you sayiong that just because people have no power over the latger problems in society, they sould not object to the lesor ones?
So we can't stop murder, we shouldn't be so uptote about les dangerous acts as high taxes?
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More jamaicans need to speak out and<span style="color: #CC0000"> <span style="font-size: 11pt">bunn fiyah pon garrisons and their supporters</span></span> too - this is one of the biggest problems for jamaica and it has caused so many problems in jamaican society.

[RcOmK]

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To Tuff Gong:

So, you're saying that the ruthless beating of homosexuals, or those suspected of being homosexuals, is just some violent fad? Do you think the rampant lyrical violence (especially towards homosexuals) in Dancehall has anything to do with the fueling of these ignorant mobs?

Well, with all the international music boycotts going on with homophobic Jamaican artists, these lyrics of hate will have to stop or their pockets will suffer... i they haven't already.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Homosexuals choose to be gay?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you sayiong that just because people have no power over the latger problems in society, they sould not object to the lesor ones?
So we can't stop murder, we shouldn't be so uptote about les dangerous acts as high taxes?
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More jamaicans need to speak out and bunn fiyah pon garrisons and their supporters too - this is one of the biggest problems for jamaica and it has caused so many problems in jamaican society. </div></div>Exactly what do you mean?
State your case.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, you're saying that the ruthless beating of homosexuals, or those suspected of being homosexuals, is just some violent fad? </div></div>Yes.
And it expresses itself among the poor defenseless ones because homos routinely go one to become their bosses and managers without getting beating.
If homos are not been beaten and someone doesn’t like you it can be a way of getting you murdered or at least beaten by bawling out that you are a homo.

[RcOmK]

Re: Homosexuals choose to be gay?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The problem homosexuals will have with me is when they try to bring that stuff to me by way of an argument or debate to CONVINCE me rather than just state their reason for being an homosexual. After all, I have no interest in CONVINCING them to change and become straight. I rather they come out of the closet and be honest and true themselves and anybody else close to them they have been deceiving and hurting.</div></div>
That is my &quot;reason for being an homosexual&quot;. </div></div>
The truth shall set you free.
Je pense aussi que vous êtes homosexuel activiste, mais je ne vais pas vous appuyez sur cette question, ce n'est pas important. </div></div>


Merci pour le compliment, mais je ne suis pas un militant pour les droits des homosexuels. Je suis vraiment désolé.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> To Tuff Gong:

Do you think the rampant lyrical violence (especially towards homosexuals) in Dancehall has anything to do with the fueling of these ignorant mobs? </div></div>Generally Dancehall cannot be separated from the street culture, but Dancehall is generally a mirror that reflects what has already become vogue in the streets.
Of course Dancehall becomes a very efficient echo chamber after the fact.