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[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">If Madonna flat out refused to even consider adopting a black child then she would get flack for that too I suspect. </span></div></div>I disagree!

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If Madonna flat out refused to even consider adopting a black child then she would get flack for that too I suspect.

If she can be a loving parent then I say good for her! </div></div>
Fair enough...bear in mind however that she has recently been divorced. I would have thought any adopting body would want to look into a stable and balanced family background. Money and fame is not a prerequisite for adopting a human being with complex feelings, emotions and constant need for care, attention, guidance and understanding.

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Madonna has founded a charity, Raising Malawi, which helps feed, educate and provide medical care for some of Malawi's more than 1 million orphans, half of whom have lost a parent to AIDS.</span> </div></div>
I noticed that too, but am not convinced of the necessity to 'save' the child from Africa. Couldn't Mercy stay in Malawi with her family and benefit from Raising Malawi? </div></div>

I do agree that if she found a child who did not have family to look after them it would have been less of an issue. Raising Malawi could have easily provided the family with resources to raise the child.

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If Madonna flat out refused to even consider adopting a black child then she would get flack for that too I suspect.

If she can be a loving parent then I say good for her! </div></div>
Fair enough...bear in mind however that she has recently been divorced. I would have thought any adopting body would want to look into a stable and balanced family background. Money and fame is not a prerequisite for adopting a human being with complex feelings, emotions and constant need for care, attention, guidance and understanding. </div></div>


Yes a single parent with nuff nannies and who is actually raising the child on a daily?

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White career woman hiring working woman of color to provide child care to her (adopted) child of color so that white woman can have full time career.</div></div>

very common among women who have birthed their children too

[halfwaytree]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">If Madonna flat out refused to even consider adopting a black child then she would get flack for that too I suspect. </span></div></div>I disagree! </div></div>

Wonderful! Cause if we all agreed this place would be ...

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes a single parent with nuff nannies and who is actually raising the child on a daily? </div></div>
Nuff nannies... Do they come and go?
What about the constant traveling?
How often modonna will see her adopted child(ren) to spend quality family time? It's not the nannies adopting the child(ren) it's modonna.

Do modonna or her celeb friends take drugs? - lifestyle in the fast lane etc while bringing up a child from a completely different culture alien to new surroundings. Even I would be culture shock hanging with celebs given what they get up to and get away with. I am just trying to look at the scenario in a balanced way with the child welfare first before modonna's.

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: More4us</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=More4us]Yes a single parent with nuff nannies and who is actually raising the child on a daily? </div></div>
Nuff nannies... Do they come and go?
What about the constant traveling?
How often modonna will see her adopted child(ren) to spend quality family time? It's not the nannies adopting the child(ren) it's modonna.

Do modonna or her celeb friends take drugs? - lifestyle in the fast lane etc while bringing up a child from a completely different culture alien to new surroundings. Even I would be culture shock hanging with celebs given what they get up to and get away with. I am just trying to look at the scenario in balanced way with the child welfare first before modonna's.

</div></div>

I am asking how much time SHE, Madonna, will be spending raising the child vs the nannies whom I suspect will be doing the actual raising.

We are in agreement more4us

[Morpheous]

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Sorry luv? I misread yuh. Not that if we disagreed its a problem - just wanted to establish where yuh coming from and explore further.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White career woman hiring working woman of color to provide child care to her (adopted) child of color so that white woman can have full time career.</div></div>

very common among women who have birthed their children too </div></div>True, but it certainly comes across differently when the child and child-minder are the same color and different from the mother.

[Nylah]

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I am not crazy about the idea that she is adopting based on many reasons already outline but I do need to wonder about the criteria.....In the sense that if Madonna had given birth to a mixed race child, techincally we are saying that after applying the same yard stick, she shouldnt be allowed to raise the child:

1. Child and parent not the same race (techincally from how Blu and others see it )
2. If she can afford nanny care and the nanny is the same color as the child but different from the mother.
3. That the child would be better off with the black side of the family instead of the white side cause as a white woman she cant teach the child certain things.
4. that these things will be determental to raising a black child.

I am not saying any of this because I favour the adoption ( I think there are enough kids in her own backyard to consider first but that is just me), but saying so cause they have run thru my mind. Is the deciding factor between the two situations is solely the fact that in the second scenario they child came from her body, hence we ignore these things?

[Blackstar*]

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US Adoption Rates - 2000 Census

<span style="font-family: 'Courier New'"><span style="font-weight: bold">Race and Origin 2000.......................% of total of that race/ethnicity adopted</span>
White alone................................2.22%
Black or African American alone............2.97%</span>

Source

[Blackstar*]

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Hi Nylah.

<span style="font-style: italic">1. Child and parent not the same race (techincally from how Blu and others see it </span> )
My issue with how the adoption came about is that Madonna &quot;won&quot; the child using money and bending laws, and I am quite frankly dubious of white liberal do-gooders. They often do more harm than good.

<span style="font-style: italic">2. If she can afford nanny care and the nanny is the same color as the child but different from the mother.</span>
I see a lot of women of color taking care of white people's children in the US and Europe. In many cases, those women have to leave their own children with a child minder. It makes no sense to me. In many cases (obviously not all) the WoC nannies are qualified professionals in their home country, but come to N. America/Europe the best job they can get is nanny. This just another level of exploitation on top of &quot;winning&quot; the child.

<span style="font-style: italic">3. That the child would be better off with the black side of the family instead of the white side cause as a white woman she cant teach the child certain things.</span>
C.f. Marcus Dixon
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Peri [Marcus Dixon's adoptive mother] couldn’t believe it when a longtime family friend said, after the [rape] charges were made against Marcus, that raping white girls was “just what ni99ers do,” and suggested that the Joneses shouldn’t be surprised. “I didn’t know she felt that way,” Peri lamented in a recent television interview. Source </div></div>
<span style="font-style: italic">4. that these things will be determental to raising a black child.</span>
Some studies report black/darker adoptees scrubbing their skin with bleach and rubbing themselves with chalk to whiten their skin.

<span style="font-style: italic">I am not saying any of this because I favour the adoption ( I think there are enough kids in her own backyard to consider first but that is just me), but saying so cause they have run thru my mind. Is the deciding factor between the two situations is solely the fact that in the second scenario they child came from her body, hence we ignore these things? </span>
Mixed race children may also suffer from the same fall-out if the parent from the minority group does not play an essential role.

[rudemonk]

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if she has a Foundation which she has established- and those who think say it is a tax haven or pr stunt try to set one up and see for yourself- anyway the thing here is that supposedly the girl has a family structure in her homeland. I imagine she is in the orphanage because they can not care for her. A safe asumption, without knowing, since the baby is clearly there. Anyway the baby has or could have a family, well...I think Madonna should help the family bring up the baby girl through her Foundation.

She can be an aunty if she needs title about some kind of relationship to the girl as her benefactor. Summers in the UK or NY and things like that, pay for college.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">I think Madonna should help the family bring up the baby girl through her Foundation.

She can be an aunty if she needs title about some kind of relationship to the girl as her benefactor. Summers in the UK or NY and things like that, pay for college.</span> </div></div>That is my thinking too, monk.