Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

[f0rTyLeGz]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I forgot to impart this tidbit of knowledge, too:

Unnnu ever talk to anybody involved with with NASA?

I have, like I said before.

Astronauts back then were specifically trained NOT to jump any higher than toes-just-off-ground in low-G ... and with very good reason: <span style="font-weight: bold">If they jumped higher and accidentally twisted a bit in their fall, they'd end up falling on their backpack or suit, and the potential ensuing damage to backpack or suit c/would mean instant death to them.</span>

Let's recall that those space suits were very fragile, not like today's space suits. One tear would mean death to the astronaut. Damage to his backpack could mean death to him. I wouldn't even have let my toes leave lunar surface, personally!

Remember how the men walked hunched forwards on the moon?
It's so they could maintain their center of balance and not fall over backwards onto their fragile life-sustaining backpack.

I really wish I could be as happily ignorant of aerospace engineering science as some of unnu, because some of unnu lead much more interesting lives in unnu's suspicions.
Too bad I attended Project SPARC at NEHS...
That takes away from my fancies.
But wait! <span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span></span> can imagine the reality of deep space travel in another few generations...

Didn't unnu read, a page or two back, when I admitted to having attended Project SPARC - Northeast High School's magnet school of Aerospace Engineering Sciences, in Philadelphia?
Like I said - I've been part of this kind of stuff. It's real. It was real back then, too.

How would unnu who are really Jamaicans (as opposed to those of us who love JA) convince a person who's never been to JA that your island really exists? Without actually taking them there?

Maybe if you tell me that, I can translate that experience and do the same for unnu with aerospace engineering...</div></div>
Last night I caught a tv show by National Geographic about this whole issue Link called Conpiracy Moon Landing. It goes through every one of these &quot;problems&quot; that the deniers come up with, and then conclude reminding everyone that the astronauts left mirrors on the Moon's surface that astronomers on Earth have been bouncing laser beams off since 1969.

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Last night I caught a tv show by National Geographic about this whole issue Link called Conpiracy Moon Landing. It goes through every one of these &quot;problems&quot; that the deniers come up with, and then conclude reminding everyone that <span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #CC0000">the astronauts left mirrors on the Moon's surface that astronomers on Earth have been bouncing laser beams off since 1969</span></span></span>. </div></div>
BOAL

And I typed all that ^ fine aerospace engineering knowledge - <span style="font-weight: bold">and worse, had to admit to intelligence and education that I usually prefer to hide</span> - for naught??!!!

And you, 40legz - didn't come with this before now?!


Dat it. Mi gawn!

[jah_yout]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I forgot to impart this tidbit of knowledge, too:

Unnnu ever talk to anybody involved with with NASA?

I have, like I said before.

Astronauts back then were specifically trained NOT to jump any higher than toes-just-off-ground in low-G ... and with very good reason: <span style="font-weight: bold">If they jumped higher and accidentally twisted a bit in their fall, they'd end up falling on their backpack or suit, and the potential ensuing damage to backpack or suit c/would mean instant death to them.</span>

Let's recall that those space suits were very fragile, not like today's space suits. One tear would mean death to the astronaut. Damage to his backpack could mean death to him. I wouldn't even have let my toes leave lunar surface, personally!

Remember how the men walked hunched forwards on the moon?
It's so they could maintain their center of balance and not fall over backwards onto their fragile life-sustaining backpack.

I really wish I could be as happily ignorant of aerospace engineering science as some of unnu, because some of unnu lead much more interesting lives in unnu's suspicions.
Too bad I attended Project SPARC at NEHS...
That takes away from my fancies.
But wait! <span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span></span> can imagine the reality of deep space travel in another few generations...

Didn't unnu read, a page or two back, when I admitted to having attended Project SPARC - Northeast High School's magnet school of Aerospace Engineering Sciences, in Philadelphia?
Like I said - I've been part of this kind of stuff. It's real. It was real back then, too.

How would unnu who are really Jamaicans (as opposed to those of us who love JA) convince a person who's never been to JA that your island really exists? Without actually taking them there?

Maybe if you tell me that, I can translate that experience and do the same for unnu with aerospace engineering...</div></div>
Last night I caught a tv show by National Geographic about this whole issue Link called Conpiracy Moon Landing. It goes through every one of these &quot;problems&quot; that the deniers come up with, and then conclude reminding everyone that the astronauts left mirrors on the Moon's surface that astronomers on Earth have been bouncing laser beams off since 1969. </div></div>

oh yes the mirrors thing...they can tell me anything; also it is possible it could have been put there by unmanned flights;

the more i look into it the more i doubt the moon thing; especially no human has gone past the van-allen radiation belt (with those 'fragile' space suits) before or since, with 40 years worth of newer technology;
then when i really think on the fact that richard nixon (a.k.a. tricky dick of watergate underhanded fame) was president during every single moon 'landing' which coincided with the unpopular vietnam war;
what could be a better diversion?
the astronauts saying they didn't remember if they saw stars or not struck me as very weird...
so they go SIX times betwen 1969 &amp; 1973 but somehow can't muster enough money/energy/desire to go even ONCE in the subsequent FORTY years not even to silence the conspiracy theory 'nuts'??

now this is strange indeed

[jah_yout]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I forgot to impart this tidbit of knowledge, too:

Unnnu ever talk to anybody involved with with NASA?

I have, like I said before.

Astronauts back then were specifically trained NOT to jump any higher than toes-just-off-ground in low-G ... and with very good reason: <span style="font-weight: bold">If they jumped higher and accidentally twisted a bit in their fall, they'd end up falling on their backpack or suit, and the potential ensuing damage to backpack or suit c/would mean instant death to them.</span>

Let's recall that those space suits were very fragile, not like today's space suits. One tear would mean death to the astronaut. Damage to his backpack could mean death to him. I wouldn't even have let my toes leave lunar surface, personally!

Remember how the men walked hunched forwards on the moon?
It's so they could maintain their center of balance and not fall over backwards onto their fragile life-sustaining backpack.

I really wish I could be as happily ignorant of aerospace engineering science as some of unnu, because some of unnu lead much more interesting lives in unnu's suspicions.
Too bad I attended Project SPARC at NEHS...
That takes away from my fancies.
But wait! <span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span></span> can imagine the reality of deep space travel in another few generations...

Didn't unnu read, a page or two back, when I admitted to having attended Project SPARC - Northeast High School's magnet school of Aerospace Engineering Sciences, in Philadelphia?
Like I said - I've been part of this kind of stuff. It's real. It was real back then, too.

How would unnu who are really Jamaicans (as opposed to those of us who love JA) convince a person who's never been to JA that your island really exists? Without actually taking them there?

Maybe if you tell me that, I can translate that experience and do the same for unnu with aerospace engineering...


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there are over 2 million people on the rock to attest that they are there and another 2 million worldwide who have seen them there

i can't get over how they went to the moon several times with primitive technology but can't do it now in the micro-processor age;
all the cameras &amp; coverage of the supposed moon landing was by the gov't and no outside reports or coverage could be used to verify what they fed us...all the test-flight footage of the lunar module that i saw it never landed correctly the way it did on the moon- in fact it crashed &amp; burned;
they were so far behind the soviets yet the soviets never went, or any one else for that matter to verify that they had indeed gone...
when it's all said and done they have no proof that they were there except their word, some footage that could have been filmed by a movie studio and some questionable 'moon rocks';

and now they claim to have erased the original footage of the first landing??!!

lol- joke ting

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How would unnu who are really Jamaicans (as opposed to those of us who love JA) convince a person who's never been to JA that your island really exists? Without actually taking them there?

Maybe if you tell me that, I can translate that experience and do the same for unnu with aerospace engineering...


</div></div>

Aerospace engineering took you to the moon then?



You and I can't prove or disprove anything.

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oh yes the mirrors thing...they can tell me anything; also it is possible it could have been put there by unmanned flights;</div></div>
So are you saying that the technology and money were availablt in 1969 to put unmanned flights on the moon, but not the manned flights?

They've been using the mirrors continuously since 1969.

And, while I personally wasn't part of that, in 1969 - as I was merely 8 years old then... Mr Witchy, who's 64 years old now, was.

I couldn't come up with anything I can think of to care less about than if <span style="text-decoration: underline">you</span> believe Mr Witchy or not... but <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">I</span></span> do believe him.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so they go SIX times betwen 1969 &amp; 1973 but somehow can't muster enough money/energy/desire to go even ONCE in the subsequent FORTY years not even to silence the conspiracy theory 'nuts'??</div></div>
Like I said before, but you can't seem to comprehend the simple English: Why?! Why would they bother?

The money expenditure is not justified. Period. End of story.

They don't care about you silly conspiracy 'nuts'. (YOUR word, not mine)
They don't care what you silly 'nuts' (<span style="text-decoration: underline">your</span> word) think.

Why would they bother to even try to justify anything to 'nuts' (per <span style="text-decoration: underline">you</span>, not me, remember) whom they care nothing about??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
there are over 2 million people on the rock to attest that they are there and another 2 million worldwide who have seen them there </div></div>
So what? That proves nothing whatsoever to persons who haven't been there.
There's pix... and movies... and the word of those who've been there, right?

So what? There's pix and video and the word of thosse who went to the moon, too, and those who worked on those moon projects... but you, who haven't been there, still refuse to believe all of that evidence.

So, I'll ask it yet again, since you're a bit slow to hear me: <span style="font-weight: bold">Tell me, please, how you prove that the island of JA exists - using NO proof other than the personal 5 senses of the person who hasn't been there - to a person who's never been there?</span>

You can't.
Nor can we prove to you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i can't get over how they went to the moon several times with primitive technology but can't do it now in the micro-processor age; </div></div>
Again... and again... and again... and again... and again ---

It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.

<span style="font-size: 11pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.</span>

<span style="font-size: 14pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.
</span>

<span style="font-size: 17pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.</span>

<span style="font-size: 20pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.

<span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Did you read me now??</span></span>


Did you even bother to view the video YOU posted again, to watch what I suggsted you watch, so you could see proof?

Or are you not even looking for proof?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></span>
all the cameras &amp; coverage of the supposed moon landing was by the gov't and no outside reports or coverage could be used to verify what they fed us...all the test-flight footage of the lunar module that i saw it never landed correctly the way it did on the moon- in fact it crashed &amp; burned;
they were so far behind the soviets yet the soviets never went, or any one else for that matter to verify that they had indeed gone...
when it's all said and done they have no proof that they were there except their word, some footage that could have been filmed by a movie studio and some questionable 'moon rocks'</div></div>
Of course there's proof.

You must open your eyes - and your mind - to see it, though.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Aerospace engineering took you to the moon then?</div></div>
I never said that. Go back and re-read.

I stand by my words; the are still posted for anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together to read and comprehend.

If and when I get to the moon, I wouldn't even bother to TELL you, much less to try and prove it to you.
Because you're irrelevant to me... and fast becomming less and less relevant to me each time you post your ridiculous nonsense.

I used to think you intelligent, Derek.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You and I can't prove or disprove anything. </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span></span> can.

I already have.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">You</span></span> haven't, yet.

I don't believe you <span style="font-style: italic">can</span>, actually.

[jah_yout]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

you comparing the moon to jamaica?

if jamaica didn't exist i wouldn't be sitting here typing to you...i can go tomorrow if i want;
but can you go to the moon, huh?
answer that- it hasn't been done in 40 years;

even a former astronaut stated there is no way to prove they did

in any case derek is right- there is no way to prove it one way or the other;
so you think the gov't never lied before?
i can't prove if they did or did not go but the more i really look into it the more i doubt this moon tale;
when you really check the steps it would have involved...that little lunar module they put out there was a joke- it would have been far more complicated than they made it appear;

so you say they have no reason to go the last 36 years but plenty of reason to go SIX times in 4 years prior?

DWL

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oh yes the mirrors thing...they can tell me anything; also it is possible it could have been put there by unmanned flights;</div></div>
So are you saying that the technology and money were availablt in 1969 to put unmanned flights on the moon, but not the manned flights?

They've been using the mirrors continuously since 1969.

And, while I personally wasn't part of that, in 1969 - as I was merely 8 years old then... Mr Witchy, who's 64 years old now, was.

I couldn't come up with anything I can think of to care less about than if <span style="text-decoration: underline">you</span> believe Mr Witchy or not... but <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">I</span></span> do believe him.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
so they go SIX times betwen 1969 &amp; 1973 but somehow can't muster enough money/energy/desire to go even ONCE in the subsequent FORTY years not even to silence the conspiracy theory 'nuts'??</div></div>
Like I said before, but you can't seem to comprehend the simple English: Why?! Why would they bother?

The money expenditure is not justified. Period. End of story.

They don't care about you silly conspiracy 'nuts'. (YOUR word, not mine)
They don't care what you silly 'nuts' (<span style="text-decoration: underline">your</span> word) think.

Why would they bother to even try to justify anything to 'nuts' (per <span style="text-decoration: underline">you</span>, not me, remember) whom they care nothing about??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
there are over 2 million people on the rock to attest that they are there and another 2 million worldwide who have seen them there </div></div>
So what? That proves nothing whatsoever to persons who haven't been there.
There's pix... and movies... and the word of those who've been there, right?

So what? There's pix and video and the word of thosse who went to the moon, too, and those who worked on those moon projects... but you, who haven't been there, still refuse to believe all of that evidence.

So, I'll ask it yet again, since you're a bit slow to hear me: <span style="font-weight: bold">Tell me, please, how you prove that the island of JA exists - using NO proof other than the personal 5 senses of the person who hasn't been there - to a person who's never been there?</span>

You can't.
Nor can we prove to you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i can't get over how they went to the moon several times with primitive technology but can't do it now in the micro-processor age; </div></div>
Again... and again... and again... and again... and again ---

It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.

<span style="font-size: 11pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.</span>

<span style="font-size: 14pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.
</span>

<span style="font-size: 17pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.</span>

<span style="font-size: 20pt">It's <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> that they can't. They won't. They don't want to. It's not justified. So they're not going to do it again until it IS justifiable.

<span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Did you read me now??</span></span>


Did you even bother to view the video YOU posted again, to watch what I suggsted you watch, so you could see proof?

Or are you not even looking for proof?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></span>
all the cameras &amp; coverage of the supposed moon landing was by the gov't and no outside reports or coverage could be used to verify what they fed us...all the test-flight footage of the lunar module that i saw it never landed correctly the way it did on the moon- in fact it crashed &amp; burned;
they were so far behind the soviets yet the soviets never went, or any one else for that matter to verify that they had indeed gone...
when it's all said and done they have no proof that they were there except their word, some footage that could have been filmed by a movie studio and some questionable 'moon rocks'</div></div>
Of course there's proof.

You must open your eyes - and your mind - to see it, though.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Aerospace engineering took you to the moon then?</div></div>
I never said that. Go back and re-read.

I stand by my words; the are still posted for anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together to read and comprehend.

If and when I get to the moon, I wouldn't even bother to TELL you, much less to try and prove it to you.
Because you're irrelevant to me... and fast becomming less and less relevant to me each time you post your ridiculous nonsense.

I used to think you intelligent, Derek.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You and I can't prove or disprove anything. </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span></span> can.

I already have.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">You</span></span> haven't, yet.

I don't believe you <span style="font-style: italic">can</span>, actually.
</div></div>

If you think you just <span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">proved</span></span> to me that man went to the moon, you should go and have a lie down.



And lay off the rudeness and hysteria. It makes you seem desperate to prove something that you shouldn't have to.

[RichD]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If you think you just <span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">proved</span></span> to me that man went to the moon, I think you should go and have a lie down. </div></div>

the big fonts didnt sway you?

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If you think you just <span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">proved</span></span> to me that man went to the moon, I think you should go and have a lie down. </div></div>

the big fonts didnt sway you? </div></div>

Not at all.

[RichD]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

If you think you just <span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">proved</span></span> to me that man went to the moon, I think you should go and have a lie down. </div></div>

the big fonts didnt sway you? </div></div>

Not at all. </div></div>

you are really stubborn....

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

Witchy:

You have never been to the moon.
You have never met anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified moon rock on your coffee table.

And on the subject of intelligence, I'm intelligent enough to question anything anyone tells me, be it government, NASA, my brother or my clients.

My disposition contrasts greatly with the 'intelligence' you confuse with gullibility. Do you deem long words, insults and large type convincing evidence?

(Loops called me stupid until I asked her to post photos of those 911 'terrorist' near those airports. She couldn't.)

As I said earlier, I don't disbelieve man went to the moon. But, unlike you, I wouldn't be surprised if man didn't.

My source told me man went to the moon in the 1980s. I'm inclined to believe him because, after corroboration, he is in-the-know, credible and everything else he tells me on a myriad of subjects, make sense.

So, stick to running around naked in the forest and stop insulting people just because they disagree with you.


The End.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

[RichD]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

</div></div>

come again doc

redraw....

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

</div></div>

Have you been drinking methylated spirits?