.. is Obama really considering a Canadian style Heatlhcare??

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Re: .. will Obama's health care "overhaul" be his demise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_BDCF5c-kM

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Re: .. will Obama's health care &quot;overhaul&quot; be his demise?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQGq-Phpe-A

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[evanovitch]

Re: .. will Obama's health care &quot;overhaul&quot; be his demise?

The Prez's former doctor was asked:

AMY GOODMAN: So, can you look—tell us about the plan that is presented by the House and whether or not you support it?
DR. DAVID SCHEINER: The problem, overwhelmingly, is the issue, in my mind, of the private insurance companies being a part of the program. Their record has been so abominable that to have them in the program just doesn’t make sense. The cost—Ezekiel Emanuel, Rahm’s brother, made a comment in the Journal of the AMA that just the administration costs of employers’ health is over $300 billion a year. And that money will still be wasted. There will probably be even more advertising. The huge CEO salaries will continue to be made. I think the head of Aetna makes $23 million a year.
Insurance companies repeatedly interfere with the care of patients. The opponents of health reform keep saying that if the government gets into medicine, you won’t have a choice of your doctor, you won’t have a choice of your hospital, your care will be restricted. I don’t know where they got that. Medicare, if anything, is too permissive. Medicare never gets in my way. But insurance companies—I have to use special labs. I have to—I can use certain hospitals for one person; I can’t use them for another. I’m repeatedly getting responses from the insurance company disallowing certain procedures, disallowing certain medications. The insurance company is in the room every time I see a patient. And somehow, the patients think they have free choice. Medicare gives them free choice. They will have their choice of doctor. They will have their choice of treatment. With private insurance, that will not be the case. It’s an extraordinary waste of money.
And the public—if I had a single point to make about what is going wrong with this health reform is that the public is so uniformed. They think somehow that they get the best care in the world. We know by health statistics we’re thirty-seventh. Even people with good health insurance don’t realize that the healthcare they get is often not appropriate. Sometimes they get unnecessary treatment. The whole issue, for example, of prostate cancer, which is an extraordinary industry today, and there’s no proof that doing anything is of any value. But, you know, if I have a patient with prostate cancer, there’s no way I would sit back, because I know the trial lawyer is also in the room watching me. That’s another issue, which—there’s no way you’re going to control costs, if you don’t get that under control also.

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Obama's plan is BETTER than Canada's current system

Learn quite a bit about Obama's healthcare plan since this post, and convinved that his plan his likely to be better than Canada's

So dont get it twisted, the info shared regarding Canada's healthcare deviciencies stands and needs to be shared.. however it also needs to be made clear that what Obama is proposing is NOT the same as Canada's and is infact possibly a better plan...

[RichD]

Re: Obama's plan is BETTER than Canada's current system

the deficiency in Canada health care system are financially based. the people who crying bout the deficiency and clamoring for the option to buy private insurance are the same ones who would be the first to balk at any tax increase aimed at fixing these deficiencys.

[remo]

Re: .. will Obama's health care &quot;overhaul&quot; be his demise?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mi love mi Canadian Style health care.

Dad has been in the hospital now for six months. They have been sending him for various test and and he has had a couple of procedures. Yes I agree some of the wait times are a bit much, however sometimes the wait is only a few short minutes.

Total bill for absolutely everything thus far $0.00. They are even paying for the T.V. in his room, don't ask me why, they just are (so we stay about it) </div></div>


Excellent example Milo...
What would this kind of hospital stay cost in the U.S.?...For someone with insurance
I hear horror stories of people loosing their homes and going bankrupt
And what about those without insurance would they get this kind of care?
Our system is not perfect but it cost me 88/month for a family of 4 and I get to see my doctor any time I want
edited to add as of january 1 2009 my provincial government now pays my monthly premium
I love Canada