Why the US police departments

[RichD]

Re: Why the US police departments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So the word of the white letter carrier is more is a more genuine means of identification of a black person than a government issued identification card? </div></div> apparently so

thought hey had done away with this practice long time ago eh

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Why the US police departments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-size: 14pt"> Why the police departments are likely to harass and unlawfully imprison black men,and some women too.

The training of police force instill in them the necessity of maintaining complete control of the suspect.

They are taught to evaluate the behavior of suspects as a means to recognize when the threshold of control is breached.

This standard of acceptable behavior is different between blacks and whites. They consider it normal for whit person to know their rights and object to being treated unlawful .

They also expect the white person to recognize and object to it.
It the white person does not appear to be intoxicated or under the influence of some drug, they will allow this behavior with a warning.
The black people on the other hand have over the centuries been socialized to be submissive even if unlawful acts by the police is committed against them.

Well they learn this by attrition. Those who don't learn it over the years, simply don't survive.
The problem is that this is an unnatural behavior of human beings. This i sa natural behavior of dogs. (that is why they are man's best friend).
they always try to please.

The requirement is that human have to take on the psychological characteristic of a a dog, is very stressful for the average suspect.
You see is is natural for dogs to submit to bully ism.
But human nature reacts the opposite. So when in contact with members of the police fraternity, black human beings have to react unnaturally.
As a result it is very stressful ,and more so when in the company of people who normally respect the accused,like family and neighbors.
Although it is very stressful, in the name of survival, blacks have come to recognize it as a tool to survive such contacts.

Over time the police have come to accept this unnatural and ther efore stressful reaction as the normal behavior of decent law abiding blacks.
So much so that it has been incorporated in the training as the normal behavior of decent law abiding blacks.

As a result if a black person deviate from this unnatural reaction, and act in what is their normal,but unusual behavior in such contacts, the police officer interprets it as a sign of an escalation of a situation and probably a sign of being guilty of something.
Their only tools on reducing the esculation is to become aggressive.since they believe that normal blacks react to aggression with a submissive behavior. Well they are taught so in training school.
thsi lead to the unlawful use of force in many instances and unlawful arrests.
The problem is that the department usually side with the officer or officers involved.
Th reason for this behavior is that the officers in training, taught them that is the right way to deal with situations as those.
So we may punish that police officer,but we are doing nothing about the root of the matter.
therefore black men will be treated unlawfully,with no recourse, until the society decides that this is unconstitutional and should be addressed.
They coul drealize that it is <span style="font-weight: bold">unprofitable</span> before though.
Then we will see how fast America can act.

and They we will have real rapid transformation.</span>
Dr.Dudd. </div></div>

fram mii eard wan blakk professar sey de police force orginated fram mzungu gangs dat were hired fii hunt dunn ann return slaves dat xxplain itt.

wan blakk police tell mii dat even iff deer iss more blakk police afficers itt will natt change anneeting untill dem change babylon blue kulcha </div></div> Even if the force is all black,it won't change too much. Since they will be evaluated by the set standards. those standards are based on flawed sociological markers. And since sociology is the may tool of policing, the strategy will be the same until these changes are made.Not h make up of the personnel. If you notice black police officers are as likely to be abnormally aggressive at black suspects than they do whites. It is all about what the books say. They are trained that way.
And to prove that changing of the make up won't drastically change the behavior, just have to look at the Jamaican police force.
many people believe that it is the behavior of rough officers, but the Jamaican police training includes exercises that requires the officers trainees ti develop the attitude of warrior against enemy,.. It is a military force. it i actually what the us police departments are i\evolving into. Nuff said.

[remo]

Re: Why the US police departments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So the word of the white letter carrier is more is a more genuine means of identification of a black person than a government issued identification card? </div></div> apparently so

thought hey had done away with this practice long time ago eh </div></div>

True story
My son driving his 95 Accura with three passengers 2 other black teenagers in the back
and 1 white friend in front passenger seat,Pulled over for no apparent reason,Cop walks up to driver side looks pass my son and says to the white guy Every thing alright boss ?white guy says yes, cop says carry on...

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So the word of the white letter carrier is more is a more genuine means of identification of a black person than a government issued identification card? </div></div> apparently so

thought hey had done away with this practice long time ago eh </div></div>

True story
My son driving his 95 Accura with three passengers 2 other black teenagers in the back
and 1 white friend in front passenger seat,Pulled over for no apparent reason,Cop walks up to driver side looks pass my son and says to the white guy Every thing alright boss ?white guy says yes, cop says carry on... </div></div> That i sth egist of th ewhole story. That is the little secret that goes unsaid. Ley ne shout it loud and clear. <span style="font-size: 14pt"> Th epolice department sare established proimarily to priotect whites against blacks. It i sjustified by promoting the falacy thatblacks are inately criminal and ned to be constantly managed to make surethey dont destroy th ewhite mans peace. </span>

[Gen]

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you used to work as a police too?

[Gen]

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remo where did this happen ? ja ? canada ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So the word of the white letter carrier is more is a more genuine means of identification of a black person than a government issued identification card? </div></div> apparently so

thought hey had done away with this practice long time ago eh </div></div>

True story
My son driving his 95 Accura with three passengers 2 other black teenagers in the back
and 1 white friend in front passenger seat,Pulled over for no apparent reason,Cop walks up to driver side looks pass my son and says to the white guy Every thing alright boss ?white guy says yes, cop says carry on... </div></div>

[Andrewnaqi]

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[Nylah]

Re: Why the US police departments


wha? That happened right here Canada?

my brother has the same kind of stories to tell to.

Even me, when I was driving late a night with a baseball cap on and the police mistkaked me for a boy. I had a 91 Eagle Talon back then and was on my way to pick up my inerbriated brother from a club. The policy sat on my tail with their high beams on and eash time I changed lanes they wuld change with me. At the time, I had no idea it was the police b/c I couldnt see the car with the light coming into to my rearview mirror. I was about to call 911 because I got scared that I was being followed at 3am. It was then that the police pulled up next to me...the look of surprise was priceless on their faces b/c they didnt think it was a girl driving the sports car. They kinda waved and went on them business.

I was rattled as hell and I told my brother. He said they did that to him all the time in my car. What they want to do is provoke you into speeding so they can then pull you over and search your car.......

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">remo where did this happen ? ja ? canada ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So the word of the white letter carrier is more is a more genuine means of identification of a black person than a government issued identification card? </div></div> apparently so

thought hey had done away with this practice long time ago eh </div></div>

True story
My son driving his 95 Accura with three passengers 2 other black teenagers in the back
and 1 white friend in front passenger seat,Pulled over for no apparent reason,Cop walks up to driver side looks pass my son and says to the white guy Every thing alright boss ?white guy says yes, cop says carry on... </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Why the US police departments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you used to work as a police too? </div></div>I had to study a lot of sociology and just as when you were studying earlier and you chose Jamaica as a source of info on taxation, for your course.
I elected to study police,and social conditions in the wider society,
I did a bit of That too. The Thing about me is I have a nasty tendency ti be able to recall a lot of what I study.
In the future i may be able to apply it to the benefit of Jamaica who knows??

[Gen]

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i know that happens all the while in north america, but was wondering if that specific incident took place in JA.

[remo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i know that happens all the while in north america, but was wondering if that specific incident took place in JA. </div></div>
Happened right here in the great white north Gen

[Nylah]

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sarry, I tend to think that everybody know where remo lives

[Gen]

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oh ok.

now my acquaintances dem wouldan did ask the police

&quot;why officer? does it look like I am being kidnapped? tortured? &quot;

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i know that happens all the while in north america, but was wondering if that specific incident took place in JA. </div></div>
Happened right here in the great white north Gen </div></div>

[Gen]

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no man mi know weh him live but cause him did seh &quot;boss&quot; I was wondering if is yard it tek place

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
sarry, I tend to think that everybody know where remo lives </div></div>

[barosa]

Re: Why the US police departments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The requirement is that human have to take on the psychological characteristic of a a dog, is very stressful for the average suspect.
You see is is natural for dogs to submit to bully ism.
But human nature reacts the opposite. So when in contact with members of the police fraternity, black human beings have to react unnaturally.
As a result it is very stressful ,and more so when in the company of people who normally respect the accused,like family and neighbors.
Although it is very stressful, in the name of survival, blacks have come to recognize it as a tool to survive such contacts.</div></div>
<span style="font-size: 14pt">It's about time that black people start to act and behave like normal human beings. The training of America's white police force emanates from &quot;slavery&quot; and came about to keep blacks to be sub-servient like dogs as they were during slavery.... Professor Gates knew all about &quot;this&quot; and as a &quot;black&quot; man, he re-acted to it... The &quot;test&quot; borne out his suspicion, but he paid the price for it!.. It's time educated &quot;blacks&quot; challenge &quot;white&quot; cops when they know that they are in the &quot;right&quot; while being accosted... America has always used the &quot;white&quot; police as their buffer and protector against the &quot;freed&quot; slaves(blacks), the mind set will always be there to support the cops against &quot;blacks&quot;. The cops know this, and is why they always close ranks, even when they are WRONG...This nonsense must stop, take them to court if neccessary...</span>
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