why r oprah & tyler perry biggin up this film- precious

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boopie2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i'm discussing the movie, not the book...

mi nuh waan read dem eedyat book deh </div></div>

The movie is based on the book or did you not know that. It's the author's baby not Daniels. </div></div>
you read the book of every movie that has one?
i don't have the time so i'm just dealing with the film...
mi seh mi naah read it

irresistable force meets immovable object

</div></div>

Well I am a reader and try to read at least 2 or 3 books a month. Pretty much I read more than I watch TV.

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boopie2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i'm discussing the movie, not the book...

mi nuh waan read dem eedyat book deh </div></div>

You still didn't name any great Jamaican movies as of yet. </div></div>


-the harder they come
-heartland reggae
-rockers </div></div>

If you had said Shottas, I was going to gag I couldn't sit through that for one second.


Oh yeah wasn't the baby boy so called dark skinned? Another one for the dark team. I'm sure if the so called light skinned baby girl who had Downs Syndrome was dark you'd be on that as well.

[jah_yout]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?



'shottas' also on my all-time favorite jamaican movies list...

hated 'baby boy' though

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

'shottas' also on my all-time favorite jamaican movies list...

hated 'baby boy' though </div></div>

I can't stand killing movies, blood guts and gory movies.

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

'shottas' also on my all-time favorite jamaican movies list...

hated 'baby boy' though </div></div>

I think I saw 2 seconds of Baby Boy on TV.

OK, I'm going to go and read my book now night night.

[tsophra]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boopie2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boopie2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

i'm discussing the movie, not the book...

mi nuh waan read dem eedyat book deh </div></div>

You still didn't name any great Jamaican movies as of yet. </div></div>


-the harder they come
-heartland reggae
-rockers </div></div>

If you had said Shottas, I was going to gag I couldn't sit through that for one second.


Oh yeah wasn't the baby boy so called dark skinned? Another one for the dark team. I'm sure if the so called light skinned baby girl who had Downs Syndrome was dark you'd be on that as well. </div></div>

another bit of odd casting..its like they went out of their way to make the father dark..

[julie*mango]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

I finally saw the movie on Thanksgiving night and it left a sour taste in my mouth...not so much about the main character, but the supporting cast...the stereotypes that were thrown about the movie were rampant...but is it art imitating life?

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

Isn't black subject centered movies always almost universally one of stereotyping??
Why is this one so shocking?
After all It has created a few black millionaires. Even if it is destroying the hopes of a few million blacks.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _____</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I finally saw the movie on Thanksgiving night and it left a sour taste in my mouth...not so much about the main character, but the supporting cast...the stereotypes that were thrown about the movie were rampant...but is it art imitating life? </div></div>

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

To me you all are the ones with this so called &quot;color hang up&quot;. To label people as dark skinned this and light skinned that is sickening.




My point:
Casting is an arduous task. It is not easy, especially with limited funds and no studio backing.

I am not saying there are no actresses of any shade at every skill and talent level, I am saying casting is a difficult process. I personally, as a short film director, and one who has produced, production supervised, production managed, line produced and worked in the AD dept-
give the director and producers of this film slack for the choice they made in casting that particular role.
There is so much that goes nto choosing the right actor for the right role.

In my short film, when I found the right actor for the protagonist, he was so great, that I changed the character to better fit him as an actor!
The chemistry between lead &amp; that actor was exceptional! It took us in a different direction.

That Push / Precious was made into a film at all is a HUGE achievement.

The director has not made one single blockbuster as a director.
His only box office success as a producer, by investors standards, was Monsters Ball. I can guarantee you, when he went out looking for funds, he was asked about getting Halle Barry attached.

This is a character driven drama, with an AA, female, lead.
There are very few made these days and even fewer get seen



When casting, you choose the best actors to work in your film. If the physicality of the character is important to the role, then of course you do your best to find the best actor who is available and will work with your budget.

I can't begin to convey what a miracle it is that the director managed to cast such great talent across the board. The film was made on a shoestring budget. It was not picked up by Harpo &amp; Tyler Perry co.'s until after it had been shot and was gaining recognition on the festival circuit. Thank goodness those companies stepped up for the distribution.
That money was not there during cast negotiations.

The most important aspect of directing~ work with the best actors you can get.

[Boopie2]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

This film comes from the independent film world.
The same world that gave us, Frozen River, the Visitor, Namesake, the Station Agent, Towelhead, etc.


It is clear that there are not nearly enough women working in the film industry. From development to on set P.A.'s there are simply too few of us. There are some feminist men, however, their voices are easily squashed by the misogynists in their midst when there are literally no women there to speak up and create via the medium.
I hope more will consider it as a career path, go to school, intern and then
when the time comes to work in the industry, do not allow yourself to be pushed into the make-up and hair or wardrobe dept. Do not let them make you the script supervisor. Fight to continue writing if you're a writer, fight to direct if you have that in you, fight to Produce, PM, AD, Gaff (Lighitng), DP (Cinematographer/Director of Photog), be a Key Grip!
Get in there and do it!
Then and only then will we see the significant change we are obviously aching for!
And it wont happen over night, cause even once you're in there, you have to fight the money people and let me tell you-
Money people did not believe in this film until after it won awards!
You have no idea how hard it is to make a movie like this.

I don't know these film makers, but, I am darn proud of them.
Even if they did cast a great actress who has straight hair and may be a shade lighter than the one in the book. The lead is spot on! So much is spot on! and most importantly, it stands on it's own as a story. The film does, even if you never read the book, you'll get the story from the film.

I hope you'll join in the film industry and get to the point where you can direct.

If/ when you do, you'll learn that the most important thing you can do for the story is cast the best fit-
that is based on chemistry, energy, talent and skill- physical appearance is often last on the list of what makes a person perfect for a role in a character driven drama.

The real win for &quot;Precious&quot; is that millions of people are going to see it.

[julie*mango]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

Spoiler questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">Why did the little girl with the black eye at Social Services have a big fat black mother too?

Why did Precious have to steal a bucket of fried chicken?

Why were all the people that helped Precious half white?</div></div></div>

[evanovitch]

Is 'Precious' racist?

tunnel visioned wid juss two posters afta all u fellow mods been around all day n dem neva see whe u see..u need fi hangle di training in di bak..gi dem a pair of ur xray specs

[Suesumba]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

i'm late but i wonder how much of the poverty stricken whose life are being potrayed will actually see it?

[evanovitch]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

u know seh past box office show dat blacks naw go see dat pawt of dem reality...gangsters,yes, but dis , hell no...

[jah_yout]

Re: Is 'Precious' racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know seh past box office show dat blacks naw go see dat pawt of dem reality...gangsters,yes, but dis , hell no..</div></div>

reportedly &quot;the blind side&quot; movie you mentioned earlier is doing great business @ the box office...only the vampire ting deh a beat it out