Killing those who come to help? This not what Jamaica needs to be famous for.

[lonewolf]

http://jablogz.com/2016/06/two-suspe...-missionaries/

Whatever the circumstances are does not matter. The bottom line is that this reflects very badly on the entire country and so needs to be cleaned up.

Of course you are right, but me thinks opening Cuba up to US citizens, will unfortunately be the real enemy and very hard on Jamaica.

[1FryDumplin]

Of course you are right, but me thinks opening Cuba up to US citizens, will unfortunately be the real enemy and very hard on Jamaica.

I do not understand why Cuba opening up would be a bad thing. I guess I am missing something.
From one perspective opening up Cuba means an impending boom to tourism for Cuba. Next you have to ask which tourist in their right mind is going to travel hundreds (if not thousands) of miles to Cuba and then have another Island paradise just 90 miles away (within eyeshot) and not go? The logical conclusion then is that a boom in tourism for Cuba will eventually result in a boom in tourism for Jamaica. Why is that not a good thing?

[lonewolf]

I do not understand why Cuba opening up would be a bad thing. I guess I am missing something. From one perspective opening up Cuba means an impending boom to tourism for Cuba. Next you have to ask which tourist in their right mind is going to travel hundreds (if not thousands) of miles to Cuba and then have another Island paradise just 90 miles away (within eyeshot) and not go? The logical conclusion then is that a boom in tourism for Cuba will eventually result in a boom in tourism for Jamaica. Why is that not a good thing?

Cuba is only 90 miles from Key West FL. Why would US citizens travel further to Jamaica when Cuba is closer and they have some of the best beaches in the caribbean? The US tourist is Jamaica's #1 visitor. The opening of Cuba will mean a loss of US tourist to Jamaica.

The rest of the world has had access to Cuba, only the US citizen has not.

[Wahalla]

Cuba is only 90 miles from Key West FL. Why would US citizens travel further to Jamaica when Cuba is closer and they have some of the best beaches in the caribbean? The US tourist is Jamaica's #1 visitor. The opening of Cuba will mean a loss of US tourist to Jamaica.

The rest of the world has had access to Cuba, only the US citizen has not.

Funny enough my estimate is most Jamaicans agree with what u wrote.... but I am yet to meet one who d o es not want the embargo lifted...
Ironic Cuba US relationship improving, Venezuela US relationship going down hill....

[1FryDumplin]

Cuba is only 90 miles from Key West FL. Why would US citizens travel further to Jamaica when Cuba is closer and they have some of the best beaches in the caribbean? The US tourist is Jamaica's #1 visitor. The opening of Cuba will mean a loss of US tourist to Jamaica.

The rest of the world has had access to Cuba, only the US citizen has not.

Cuba will definitely bring more tourists to the area which is a good thing because at least some of those tourists will do “island hopping” and hop right on over to Jamaica. The US and other tourists will travel further to Jamaica for the same reason they travel further to Barbados and the other Caribbean islands right now.

The Caribbean as a region is not the only tourist attraction in the world. Jamaica has had a lot more competition that just Cuba for decades. In the USA there is a CVS pharmacy on one corner and a Walgreens pharmacy on the opposite corner and they both do great business. That is how the American consumer behaves, they shop at both. The same will apply to Jamaica and Cuba. The American consumer will go to both.

I think Jamaican tourism has more to fear from the bad publicity of crime (like with these missionaries) than it has to fear from Cuba bringing more tourists to the region.

[j-can]

Last year in jamaica almost 1,200 jamaicans murdered over the last 10 years in jamaica nearly 20,000 jamaicans murdered ...put that in context with 2 U.S. citizens.......Juss saying......

[evanovitch]

These were men of peace. They were trying to make a difference in people's lives. They paid the ultimate price.

Yes, this could have happened in the states, but it did not...and if it would have happened in the states it probably would have happened in like areas. (Baltimore, Washington, Philly, Chicago etc.)

'Like areas'...ah sah...pray tell..u mean , weh nuff black people live...sigh... higher monkey climb, the more him show him baxide...btw, today Gleaner hinting at the real reason behind the slayings...pearly white might not be so blemish free after all...

[lonewolf]

'Like areas'...ah sah...pray tell..u mean , weh nuff black people live...sigh... higher monkey climb, the more him show him baxide...btw, today Gleaner hinting at the real reason behind the slayings...pearly white might not be so blemish free after all...

Poverty ridden areas equal high crime. Simply stating a fact.

[1FryDumplin]

The Jamaican authorities just need to solve this case so that there is no retaliation (which hurts the economy), by people who thought the missionaries were just innocently helping out and got killed.

[evanovitch]

Poverty ridden areas equal high crime. Simply stating a fact.

How then do u explain the crimes of Wall Street n other white collars..or is crime only criminal if it is black on black...note, u said crime , which includes murder ...snicker.

[evanovitch]

The Jamaican authorities just need to solve this case so that there is no retaliation (which hurts the economy), by people who thought the missionaries were just innocently helping out and got killed.

wat utter crap...that the murder of two insignificant white people, albeit do-gooders of some sort,can be seen to create 'retaliation which hurts the economy', is laughable not to mention telling re the mentality that would conceive such crap...sigh...oh that we held our bizniz leaders n politicians as culpable...lol..sigh...but two nondescript , maybe middle class expats have that power..lol...the murder of citizens for how many decades n the demoralization of industry etal counts little next to whitey..lol....the Commish need to be told where his priority lies wen it comes to our out of control murder rate...drop everything, whitey murders need to be the priority because of course they r white..snicker

[lonewolf]

How then do u explain the crimes of Wall Street n other white collars..or is crime only criminal if it is black on black...note, u said crime , which includes murder ...snicker.

I did not explain, condone or excuse white collar crime. That is not the topic. You seem to be having trouble focusing on the topic once again. You have an agenda, and that's fine. Have at it. The murders in Jamaica were BLACK on WHITE crime and, yes, I do consider that to be criminal. Don't you? Does that answer your question?

And, a snicker is a candy bar. Care to take a BITE on mine?

[lonewolf]

The Jamaican authorities just need to solve this case so that there is no retaliation (which hurts the economy), by people who thought the missionaries were just innocently helping out and got killed.

I agree with your point.

[1FryDumplin]

wat utter crap...that the murder of two insignificant white people, albeit do-gooders of some sort,can be seen to create 'retaliation which hurts the economy', is laughable not to mention telling re the mentality that would conceive such crap...sigh...oh that we held our bizniz leaders n politicians as culpable...lol..sigh...but two nondescript , maybe middle class expats have that power..lol...the murder of citizens for how many decades n the demoralization of industry etal counts little next to whitey..lol....the Commish need to be told where his priority lies wen it comes to our out of control murder rate...drop everything, whitey murders need to be the priority because of course they r white..snicker

It is not just because they are white why priority must be given. If they were black American missionaries I would be making the point that similar high priority should be given. The reason that priority should be given is that the missionaries are from a very powerful country that sends millions of tourist each year to Jamaica. If not managed well the bad press can negatively impact the tourist industry and the economy.
America does not have a habit of forgetting its citizens and when CNN displays this matter on its front page you better believe repercussions are coming if this is not resolved.
Why do you think prime minister Holness was right by the widow's side the moment this happened?
He is smart enough to immediately know without thinking about it that this matter could adversely impact the tourist industry and ultimately the economy.

[evanovitch]

It is not just because they are white why priority must be given. If they were black American missionaries I would be making the point that similar high priority should be given. The reason that priority should be given is that the missionaries are from a very powerful country that sends millions of tourist each year to Jamaica. If not managed well the bad press can negatively impact the tourist industry and the economy.
America does not have a habit of forgetting its citizens and when CNN displays this matter on its front page you better believe repercussions are coming if this is not resolved.
Why do you think prime minister Holness was right by the widow's side the moment this happened?
He is smart enough to immediately know without thinking about it that this matter could adversely impact the tourist industry and ultimately the economy.

he was there in answer to the outcry of the people who had emotional connection to the two people...it was right to do so given the outcry..it is simplistic to believe that two individuals r that impactful on any country's foreign policy outside of it being political expedient to get involved n there is no expediency that would bring about US intervention.....the average tourist goes to Jamaica for the reasons they do n given the state of the continued violence , it has not curbed their reasons to visit...Americans can afford to go close to home..period...they r more afraid of going to non-English speaking nations these days n definitely not to hotspots where they face real issues as Americans..the US passport does not carry the cache it once did.

the killings are sad , yes, but to think that an international incident will come about just due to these two being killed is simplistic at best...if there was something more pressing that the US wanted to achieve, yes, they could use the killings as a mask for intervention, but such as it is today, these two murders r not that important in the course of their daily thinking where Jamaica is concerned


am curious...what 'repercussions' do u see as 'forthcoming'...even in the instance of scamming, the most that has been done is that they have just recently been proactive in going after the scammers n even that intervention is incumbent on who is involved etc...