fiyah pon maroons

[blugiant]

mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

oyinbo histaree beelow


Tacky's Rebellion
By Bill Evans

At midnight on July 31st 1834, the Abolition Bill which the British Parliament passed earlier in the year went into effect, ending over 300 years of slavery. It had been a long and brutal struggle to end this inhumanity. Many revolts and uprisings had occurred in Jamaica but most were local in nature and were put down with relative ease. Not so on Easter Sunday 1760.

Tacky, a Coromantee Chief was from the Guinea area of the West Coast of Africa, as were many of the slaves sold to plantations in the St. Mary's Parish of Jamaica. Tacky's position as overseer on the Frontier plantation gave him the opportunity to draw up some simple but effective plans to gain freedom and to easily get them to his trusted followers both at Frontier and neighbouring Trinity plantations. They decided to wait until Easter Sunday when they knew no one would suspect what was to follow.

Sometime before daybreak on Monday, Tacky and his followers began the revolt and easily took over the Frontier and Trinity plantations while killing their masters. Bolstered by their easy success, they made their way to the storeroom at Fort Haldane where the munitions to defend the town of Port Maria were kept. After killing the storekeeper, Tacky and his men stole nearly 4 barrels of gun powder and 40 firearms with shot before marching on to overrun the plantations at Heywood Hall and Esher. By dawn, hundreds had joined Tacky and his followers. At Ballard's Valley, the rebels stopped to rejoice in their success, as one slave from Esher decided to slip away and sound the alarm. Obeahmen quickly circulated around the camp dispensing a powder that they claimed would protect the men from injury in battle and loudly proclaimed that an Obeahman could not be killed. Confidence was high.

Soon there were 70 to 80 mounted militia on their way along with some Maroons from Scott's Hall, who were bound by treaty to suppress such rebellions. When the militia learned of the Obeahman's boast of not being able to be killed, an Obeahman was captured, killed and hung with his mask, ornaments of teeth and bone and feather trimmings at a prominent place visible from the encampment of rebels. Many of the rebels, confidence shaken, returned to their plantations but Tacky and 25 or so men decided to fight on.

Tacky and his men went running through the woods being chased by the Maroons and their legendary marksman, Davy. While running at full speed, Davy shot Tacky and cut off his head to prove his feat for which he would be richly rewarded. Tacky's head was later displayed on a pole in Spanish Town until a follower took it down in the middle of the night. Tacky's men were found in a cave near Tacky Falls, having committed suicide rather than going back to slavery.

The rebellion didn't end here, as other rebellions broke out all over Jamaica, which many were rightly or wrongly attributed to Tacky's cunning and strategy. It was months later until peace was restored. Over 60 white people had lost their lives as well as 400 or so Negro slaves, including two ring leaders who were burned alive and two others who were hung in iron cages at the Kingston Parade, until they starved to death.

You can visit the Tacky Monument in Claude Stuart Park in Port Maria. Tacky Falls is accessible by the sea but the overland route is considered by locals to be too tough to travel. The waterfalls have diminished over the years and mainly eroded rocks mark the course. The exact location of the cave where they found Tacky's men is not known.


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[Peasie]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

I doan unnahstan wat yuh sayin widdout some source or di oddah

but it's me, not you

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Peasie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I doan unnahstan wat yuh sayin widdout some source or di oddah

but it's me, not you </div></div>



mii taught moas yaawdees pon yah knoo dem histaree

lang thyme mii doan see bill pon yah butt mii can use imm artikkle fii bunn fiyah pon oww dem glorifii maroons wey defend oyinbo ann slaveree inn jamaica. plus mii caan bunn likkle fiyah pon wahala wey luv fii bunn fiyah pon de afrikkans inn jamaica by glorifiinn tainos, ancestars aff sum maroons

oyinbo recast de histaree aff maroons inn jamaica fii glorifii dem callabaratar role

[jah_yout]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around

[jah_yout]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oyinbo histaree beelow


Tacky's Rebellion
By Bill Evans

At midnight on July 31st 1834, the Abolition Bill which the British Parliament passed earlier in the year went into effect, ending over 300 years of slavery. It had been a long and brutal struggle to end this inhumanity. Many revolts and uprisings had occurred in Jamaica but most were local in nature and were put down with relative ease. Not so on Easter Sunday 1760.

Tacky, a Coromantee Chief was from the Guinea area of the West Coast of Africa, as were many of the slaves sold to plantations in the St. Mary's Parish of Jamaica. Tacky's position as overseer on the Frontier plantation gave him the opportunity to draw up some simple but effective plans to gain freedom and to easily get them to his trusted followers both at Frontier and neighbouring Trinity plantations. They decided to wait until Easter Sunday when they knew no one would suspect what was to follow.

Sometime before daybreak on Monday, Tacky and his followers began the revolt and easily took over the Frontier and Trinity plantations while killing their masters. Bolstered by their easy success, they made their way to the storeroom at Fort Haldane where the munitions to defend the town of Port Maria were kept. After killing the storekeeper, Tacky and his men stole nearly 4 barrels of gun powder and 40 firearms with shot before marching on to overrun the plantations at Heywood Hall and Esher. By dawn, hundreds had joined Tacky and his followers. At Ballard's Valley, the rebels stopped to rejoice in their success, as one slave from Esher decided to slip away and sound the alarm. Obeahmen quickly circulated around the camp dispensing a powder that they claimed would protect the men from injury in battle and loudly proclaimed that an Obeahman could not be killed. Confidence was high.

Soon there were 70 to 80 mounted militia on their way along with some Maroons from Scott's Hall, who were bound by treaty to suppress such rebellions. When the militia learned of the Obeahman's boast of not being able to be killed, an Obeahman was captured, killed and hung with his mask, ornaments of teeth and bone and feather trimmings at a prominent place visible from the encampment of rebels. Many of the rebels, confidence shaken, returned to their plantations but Tacky and 25 or so men decided to fight on.

Tacky and his men went running through the woods being chased by the Maroons and their legendary marksman, Davy. While running at full speed, Davy shot Tacky and cut off his head to prove his feat for which he would be richly rewarded. Tacky's head was later displayed on a pole in Spanish Town until a follower took it down in the middle of the night. Tacky's men were found in a cave near Tacky Falls, having committed suicide rather than going back to slavery.

The rebellion didn't end here, as other rebellions broke out all over Jamaica, which many were rightly or wrongly attributed to Tacky's cunning and strategy. It was months later until peace was restored. Over 60 white people had lost their lives as well as 400 or so Negro slaves, including two ring leaders who were burned alive and two others who were hung in iron cages at the Kingston Parade, until they starved to death.

You can visit the Tacky Monument in Claude Stuart Park in Port Maria. Tacky Falls is accessible by the sea but the overland route is considered by locals to be too tough to travel. The waterfalls have diminished over the years and mainly eroded rocks mark the course. The exact location of the cave where they found Tacky's men is not known.


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this article written 2003 and these mental slaves still using the word knee-grow?? (negro)

kisteet

[Marilyn]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>I def could be counted as a Maroon worshipper, then recently someone hipped me to what you are talking about here Blu which I never knew about and I think I need to do some homework.(Though I have to say it would not be much different than what happened in mother Africa regarding the slave trade...we sold each other out left and right.)

[Leddih]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around </div></div>

I agree and what is more:
1) The First Spanish slaves came to Jamaica in 1517.
2) They probably started escaping from about this time to form the group (under the guidance of escaped Arawaks) which would eventually be known as the Maroons.
3) The First Maroon Treaty was signed in 1739, two hundred years later.
4) When the first treaty was signed, the English had been in Jamaica long enough to have raised a set of Anglophile slaves.
5) These anglophile Judases, who still exist today in many forms including other &quot;philes&quot;, were more of a danger - if they infiltrated the Maroons - than the British themselves.
6) Self-preservation is the first law of nature - that's why you should always sit behind the driver
7) I'm descended from Maroons on my mother's side so get off my case.

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around </div></div>

sah yu knoo wen mii bunn fiyah mii nuh partial

reason y mii mekk general statement bout da maroon iss twofold. one iss fii challenge oyinbo dat dem use fii brainwashed jamaicans bout da maroons. oww dem a teach blakk peeps fii glorifii de maroons wey use fii hunt ann returned enslaved afrikkans to oyinbo slave owners? two itt bout a negative mentalitee bout gittinn yu freedom ann natt carinn bout yu brothers dat still enslaved. yu knoo wen mii bunn fiyah pon blakk hero warshippinn tings deer iss a fine line mii trii fii straddle cah wii affi bunn fiyah pon negative myth widdout demonizinn blakk peeps cah aff de oyinbo historikkkal framewukk

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oyinbo histaree beelow


Tacky's Rebellion
By Bill Evans

At midnight on July 31st 1834, the Abolition Bill which the British Parliament passed earlier in the year went into effect, ending over 300 years of slavery. It had been a long and brutal struggle to end this inhumanity. Many revolts and uprisings had occurred in Jamaica but most were local in nature and were put down with relative ease. Not so on Easter Sunday 1760.

Tacky, a Coromantee Chief was from the Guinea area of the West Coast of Africa, as were many of the slaves sold to plantations in the St. Mary's Parish of Jamaica. Tacky's position as overseer on the Frontier plantation gave him the opportunity to draw up some simple but effective plans to gain freedom and to easily get them to his trusted followers both at Frontier and neighbouring Trinity plantations. They decided to wait until Easter Sunday when they knew no one would suspect what was to follow.

Sometime before daybreak on Monday, Tacky and his followers began the revolt and easily took over the Frontier and Trinity plantations while killing their masters. Bolstered by their easy success, they made their way to the storeroom at Fort Haldane where the munitions to defend the town of Port Maria were kept. After killing the storekeeper, Tacky and his men stole nearly 4 barrels of gun powder and 40 firearms with shot before marching on to overrun the plantations at Heywood Hall and Esher. By dawn, hundreds had joined Tacky and his followers. At Ballard's Valley, the rebels stopped to rejoice in their success, as one slave from Esher decided to slip away and sound the alarm. Obeahmen quickly circulated around the camp dispensing a powder that they claimed would protect the men from injury in battle and loudly proclaimed that an Obeahman could not be killed. Confidence was high.

Soon there were 70 to 80 mounted militia on their way along with some Maroons from Scott's Hall, who were bound by treaty to suppress such rebellions. When the militia learned of the Obeahman's boast of not being able to be killed, an Obeahman was captured, killed and hung with his mask, ornaments of teeth and bone and feather trimmings at a prominent place visible from the encampment of rebels. Many of the rebels, confidence shaken, returned to their plantations but Tacky and 25 or so men decided to fight on.

Tacky and his men went running through the woods being chased by the Maroons and their legendary marksman, Davy. While running at full speed, Davy shot Tacky and cut off his head to prove his feat for which he would be richly rewarded. Tacky's head was later displayed on a pole in Spanish Town until a follower took it down in the middle of the night. Tacky's men were found in a cave near Tacky Falls, having committed suicide rather than going back to slavery.

The rebellion didn't end here, as other rebellions broke out all over Jamaica, which many were rightly or wrongly attributed to Tacky's cunning and strategy. It was months later until peace was restored. Over 60 white people had lost their lives as well as 400 or so Negro slaves, including two ring leaders who were burned alive and two others who were hung in iron cages at the Kingston Parade, until they starved to death.

You can visit the Tacky Monument in Claude Stuart Park in Port Maria. Tacky Falls is accessible by the sea but the overland route is considered by locals to be too tough to travel. The waterfalls have diminished over the years and mainly eroded rocks mark the course. The exact location of the cave where they found Tacky's men is not known.


.. </div></div>


this article written 2003 and these mental slaves still using the word knee-grow?? (negro)

kisteet </div></div>

itt poas undar jam.com kulcha section

bill iss wan mzungu pon yah wey didd reel intarested inn maroon histaree even dough sum aff watt imm sed wass diffarant dan wat de decendants aff maroon captian sed. mii give inn credit fii at least chattinn bout de maroon ann chief stacci revolt. still mii surprise jam.com cracked miseditorial team neva pint dat out

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marilyn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>I def could be counted as a Maroon worshipper, then recently someone hipped me to what you are talking about here Blu which I never knew about and I think I need to do some homework.(Though I have to say it would not be much different than what happened in mother Africa regarding the slave trade...we sold each other out left and right.) </div></div>

natt yu alone m. yaawd peeps luv fii sing marley chune buffalo soldier widdout realizinn dat negative role dem played widd de indigenous native. da seminoles(blakk runaway enslaved afrikkans) were blakk merikkans maroons butt dem were neva glorifii. y?

realitee iss dat moas aff de enslaved blakk jamaicans hated da maroons. wen enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica escaped itt wass de maroons dat hunted dem ann returned de to dem wikked oyinbo slave mastars. de treatee da maroons signed widd da britished gave da maroon &quot;freedom ann independence&quot; on da condition dat de maroons return runaway enslaved afrikkan ann fii help de british fii putt dunn annee slave revolts. since jamaica add de moas slave revolts da maroon played a vital role in da cantinued enslavement att afrikkans inn ja ann helpinn de british fii maintain cantrol

wan aff de myth dat peeps aff afrikkan descents needs fii challenge iss dat wi sold each addar out leff ann right

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Leddih</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around </div></div>

I agree and what is more:
1) The First Spanish slaves came to Jamaica in 1517.
2) They probably started escaping from about this time to form the group (under the guidance of escaped Arawaks) which would eventually be known as the Maroons.
3) The First Maroon Treaty was signed in 1739, two hundred years later.
4) When the first treaty was signed, the English had been in Jamaica long enough to have raised a set of Anglophile slaves.
5) These anglophile Judases, who still exist today in many forms including other &quot;philes&quot;, were more of a danger - if they infiltrated the Maroons - than the British themselves.
6) Self-preservation is the first law of nature - that's why you should always sit behind the driver
7) I'm descended from Maroons on my mother's side so get off my case. </div></div>

yu figgitt itt wass da furst maroon treatee wey dem agree fii allow wan oyinbo fii live widd dem fii mekk sure dem keep dem side aff da treatee. dat oyinbo spied pon da maroon ann told de british dem secrets dat y oyinbo awl moas win da secand thyme arund. realitee da maroons were natt too brite ar dem wood ave chase de baldhead out aff town ann runn tings

bout self presevation iss da furst rule wen yu kno yu use fii sitt inn da front aff de van

[j-kid]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

If one dig far enough, yuh can always find some negative aspect of our (so-called) heroes no matter no matter whe yuh around di world yuh goh. Dis is ah fact of life.

[Marilyn]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Leddih</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around </div></div>

I agree and what is more:
1) The First Spanish slaves came to Jamaica in 1517.
2) They probably started escaping from about this time to form the group (under the guidance of escaped Arawaks) which would eventually be known as the Maroons.
3) The First Maroon Treaty was signed in 1739, two hundred years later.
4) When the first treaty was signed, the English had been in Jamaica long enough to have raised a set of Anglophile slaves.
5) These anglophile Judases, who still exist today in many forms including other &quot;philes&quot;, were more of a danger - if they infiltrated the Maroons - than the British themselves.
6) Self-preservation is the first law of nature - that's why you should always sit behind the driver
7) I'm descended from Maroons on my mother's side so get off my case. </div></div>

yu figgitt itt wass da furst maroon treatee wey dem agree fii allow wan oyinbo fii live widd dem fii mekk sure dem keep dem side aff da treatee. dat oyinbo spied pon da maroon ann told de british dem secrets dat y oyinbo awl moas win da secand thyme arund. realitee da maroons were natt too brite ar dem wood ave chase de baldhead out aff town ann runn tings

bout self presevation iss da furst rule wen yu kno yu use fii sitt inn da front aff de van </div></div>This is surely not the picture I had painted in my mind, nor the story I have been telling over and over to others about this aspect of Jamaica. Only shows that one needs to do their homework before talking. Still I respect certain things about them, but it is not the idylic story I had painted in my mind.

[Leddih]

Re: fiyah pon maroons

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Leddih</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii miss pon da verandah de intellectual section aff jamaicans.com

hotel rwanda wass good movie butt de part aff de movie dat mii memba da best wass wen itt sed dey were callabaratars. same ting caan bee sed bout jamaica maroons ann dat y many blakks yaawdees doan respekk de maroons.

mii mean da maroons got dem freedom ann tunn runn ann help fii enslaved manee enslaved afrikkans inn jamaica. dem alleged dat itt wass da maroon david wey kille chief stacci(tacky). mii awlway wandar y given da meaninn aff tacky jamaica histaree neva carrected diss misnomer?

soo wat oonnoo tink shood jamaicans criticallee examine de histaree aff de maroon fii stapp diss hero warshipinn ann chatt bout de negative aspekk aff maroon histaree </div></div>

fire pon &quot;maroons&quot; is too blanket a statement...
maroon communities were not a monolith...it also depends on the time, place and circumstances; there are positives as well as negatives regarding maroon history...

i'm pretty sure the modern-day jamaican gunman &amp; has killed far more black jamaicans than the maroons did in their entire history...

so let's spread the fire all around </div></div>

I agree and what is more:
1) The First Spanish slaves came to Jamaica in 1517.
2) They probably started escaping from about this time to form the group (under the guidance of escaped Arawaks) which would eventually be known as the Maroons.
3) The First Maroon Treaty was signed in 1739, two hundred years later.
4) When the first treaty was signed, the English had been in Jamaica long enough to have raised a set of Anglophile slaves.
5) These anglophile Judases, who still exist today in many forms including other &quot;philes&quot;, were more of a danger - if they infiltrated the Maroons - than the British themselves.
6) Self-preservation is the first law of nature - that's why you should always sit behind the driver
7) I'm descended from Maroons on my mother's side so get off my case. </div></div>

yu figgitt itt wass da furst maroon treatee wey dem agree fii allow wan oyinbo fii live widd dem fii mekk sure dem keep dem side aff da treatee. dat oyinbo spied pon da maroon ann told de british dem secrets dat y oyinbo awl moas win da secand thyme arund.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">realitee da maroons were natt too brite ar dem wood ave chase de baldhead out aff town ann runn tings </div></div>

You mean like a Haitian solution? That would probably need a garrison type don and an arms supplier but they were in Saint Domingue stirring up trouble They had to go into exile because there was an extradition order served on them from Nova Scotia
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
bout self presevation iss da furst rule wen yu kno yu use fii sitt inn da front aff de van </div></div>

Personally, I am usually &quot;di driva&quot;. If I can't drive then I most times walk. I am the only driver that I trust