Arizona and it's new racist immigration "laws"

[H_O]

Re: Arizona and it's new racist immigration "laws"

anyways,,,do you think any bean squeezer from south of the border going to take up for a black cause? they hate black people and if you ever listened to Santos Hernandez and his latino buddies in south central.

America needs to crackdown on these people crossing into America. because they ruin it for legit people who went through due process.
and Im sick of them showing up at the Buffalo/Ft. Erie Canada crossing claiming refugee status and then the Canadian taxpayer footing the bill. SEND THEM BACK. racist or not...
NOT WELCOME.

[Serenity82]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;First they came ...&quot; is a famous statement attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text expresses, in a condensed form, the understanding of history presented by Niemöller in a January 6, 1946 speech before representatives of the Confessing Church in Frankfurt.[1]

&quot;THEY CAME FIRST for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Communists,</span>Mexicans
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Communist.
</span>Mexican
THEN THEY CAME for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Jews,</span>Haitians
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Jew.</span>Haitian

THEN THEY CAME for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">trade unionists,</span>insert minority
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">trade unionist.</span>insert minority

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.&quot; </div></div>

So anytime any group of people is being persecuted in the world whether it's in Pakistan, Iran or Mexico we have to have these heartfelt feelings for them, defend them and support them? We are the most hated and who is helping us? It's very backwards how some of you are so mental from white racism that you are always up for defending some other groups. I can't believe Kia sits here and pours her heart out for mexicans when they generally hate black people. I have friends I've had for years whom even to my face say the most off things about blacks.

Last year when El Salvador played Jamaica in a soccer match in the DC area, a latino guys covered the game and it was the most arrogant, ignorant article I've ever read.

They don't like black people and every other group looks out for themselves but if it's one thing they've shown to be sure of is that they can always USE some black people people for their own gain, and in the meantime never care how we fare or care for us when we are under attack.

[diabolical_Tanya]

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Serenity what you fail to comprehend is the fact that the same thing they are doing to the Mexican's in AZ is the SAME thing they will soon be doing to the JAMAICANS in S-Fla and NYC very very soon open your eyes. you born a merica so yu noh have noh worries, but the rest a wi weh come yah as immigrant legal or illegal don't have the same luxury.

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;First they came ...&quot; is a famous statement attributed to Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text expresses, in a condensed form, the understanding of history presented by Niemöller in a January 6, 1946 speech before representatives of the Confessing Church in Frankfurt.[1]

&quot;THEY CAME FIRST for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Communists,</span>Mexicans
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Communist.
</span>Mexican
THEN THEY CAME for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Jews,</span>Haitians
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">Jew.</span>Haitian

THEN THEY CAME for the <span style="text-decoration: line-through">trade unionists,</span>insert minority
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">trade unionist.</span>insert minority

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.&quot; </div></div>



You took these words right out of my mouth as dem seh a yaawd.

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: _____</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

TOUCHE !!

[britisha]

Re: Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Acc

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So anytime any group of people is being persecuted in the world whether it's in Pakistan, Iran or Mexico we have to have these heartfelt feelings for them, defend them and support them? We are the most hated and who is helping us? It's very backwards how some of you are so mental from white racism that you are always up for defending some other groups. I can't believe Kia sits here and pours her heart out for mexicans when they generally hate black people. I have friends I've had for years whom even to my face say the most off things about blacks.

Last year when El Salvador played Jamaica in a soccer match in the DC area, a latino guys covered the game and it was the most arrogant, ignorant article I've ever read.

They don't like black people and every other group looks out for themselves but if it's one thing they've shown to be sure of is that they can always USE some black people people for their own gain, and in the meantime never care how we fare or care for us when we are under attack. </div></div><span style="font-weight: bold">

This thread is not about YOUR BEEF; so, please don't DERAIL it</span>


By now you should get it that this thread is NOT about who hates who or who likes who and who used who?

...if you are so passionate about which group hates another, may I suggest that you start a thread dealing with such...thank you.

.... you insist in talking about something that IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION...<span style="color: #FF6600">Deal with the topic at hand!!!!</span>

...it is not about individuals...it is about JUSTICE for ALL.

DUH!!


<span style="color: #333399">...it IS a new day; thanks for your countless blessings Lord...have a nice day.</span>

[britisha]

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....also, maybe someone can tell us why there are so many demonstrations AGAINST this bill across the US.

[lonewolf]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...it is not about individuals...it is about <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for ALL</span>. </div></div>

Really? What about the rights and <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">ALL</span> of the LEGAL US citizens that reside in Arizona and the ruin of their quality of life because of the failure of the Federal government to protect and enforce the law on international borders?

Something you seem to ignore....Why?




<span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR ALL?</span>

[Gen]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Serenity what you fail to comprehend is the fact that the same thing they are doing to the Mexican's in AZ is the SAME thing they will soon be doing to the JAMAICANS in S-Fla and NYC very very soon open your eyes. you born a merica so yu noh have noh worries, but the rest a wi weh come yah as immigrant legal or illegal don't have the same luxury. </div></div>


amen chile

can yuh imagine if mi haffi a walk wid papers?

[britisha]

Re: Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Acc

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Serenity what you fail to comprehend is the fact that the same thing they are doing to the Mexican's in AZ is the SAME thing they will soon be doing to the JAMAICANS in S-Fla and NYC very very soon open your eyes. you born a merica so yu noh have noh worries, but the rest a wi weh come yah as immigrant legal or illegal don't have the same luxury. </div></div>


amen chile

can yuh imagine if mi haffi a walk wid papers? </div></div> it look like seh it will be getting tuh dat soon....considaring..

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...it is not about individuals...it is about <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for ALL</span>. </div></div>

Really? What about the rights and <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">ALL</span> of the LEGAL US citizens that reside in Arizona and the ruin of their quality of life because of the failure of the Federal government to protect and enforce the law on international borders?

Something you seem to ignore....Why?




<span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR ALL?</span> </div></div>

i think the question is that is this a reasonable solution to protecting the rights of the &quot;legal US citizens&quot;. from my POV i don't see how it addresses any of the issues that are reported to have driven it.

if they are serious they need to enforce employment laws..clamp down on people hiring undocumented workers.

[kia027]

Re: Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Acc

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Serenity what you fail to comprehend is the fact that the same thing they are doing to the Mexican's in AZ is the SAME thing they will soon be doing to the JAMAICANS in S-Fla and NYC very very soon open your eyes. you born a merica so yu noh have noh worries, but the rest a wi weh come yah as immigrant legal or illegal don't have the same luxury. </div></div>


amen chile

can yuh imagine if mi haffi a walk wid papers? </div></div>

and that would apply to citizens and non citizens alike because immigrants look all like us... that is why the national biometric id card is on the table again

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...it is not about individuals...it is about <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for ALL</span>. </div></div>

Really? What about the rights and <span style="font-weight: bold">JUSTICE</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">for</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">ALL</span> of the LEGAL US citizens that reside in Arizona and the ruin of their quality of life because of the failure of the Federal government to protect and enforce the law on international borders?

Something you seem to ignore....Why?




<span style="font-weight: bold">WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR ALL?</span> </div></div>

i think the question is that is this a reasonable solution to protecting the rights of the &quot;legal US citizens&quot;. from my POV i don't see how it addresses any of the issues that are reported to have driven it.

<span style="font-weight: bold">if they are serious they need to enforce employment laws..clamp down on people hiring undocumented workers.</span> </div></div>


Prices for goods &amp; services will go up, and people of the US will complain about items costing more becoming cognizant of how much the US depends on immigrant labour.

There was a movie out a few years ago when all the hispanics disappeared except one (a female reporter who later was found to have been adopted into a hispanic family). Let me see if I can find it
ah here A day without a Mexican

[lonewolf]

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<span style="font-style: italic">This problem has been percolating for some time</span>.

<span style="font-style: italic">Where was/is the federal government?</span>




Wednesday, August 31, 2005


&quot;But the sentiment driving Arizona’s backlash can be found even within the Hispanic community. <span style="font-weight: bold">Prop 200 exit polls showed that 47 percent of Hispanics who voted supported the measure.</span>
Rita Montanez, a mother of three who lives in Mesa, Ariz., worries about the effects of illegal immigration on her ability to get health care.

&quot;I'm Mexican-American, and I just believe we are overstretched because of all the immigration,&quot; Montanez said. She added that &quot;closing the border&quot; might be the only solution to the problem.&quot;

www.stateline.org



<span style="font-style: italic">Why not use the same law Mexico would use on a person who has overstayed there visit?</span>


<span style="font-weight: bold">Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Re-entry, after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Law enforcement officials at all levels, by national mandate, must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. [7]. &quot;In cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities.&quot;, Article 16 of the constitution of Mexico, also known as a &quot;citizens arrest</span>

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


Prices for goods &amp; services will go up, and people of the US will complain about items costing more becoming cognizant of how much the US depends on immigrant labour.

There was a movie out a few years ago when all the hispanics disappeared except one (a female reporter who later was found to have been adopted into a hispanic family). Let me see if I can find it
ah here A day without a Mexican </div></div>

that might be a good thing.