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Re: dr. laura sparks latest debate on "N-word"
jah_yout
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">word sound is power...
a word's root must always be examined lest we praise demons with our utterances;</div></div>
The root of the word in question could also be Niger
As in Symeon also called Niger - Acts 13:1
What we do know is that it is coming from spanish in which it means black.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the portugese and spanish who started the african trans-atlantic slave trade used their word for black= "negro" (black) to describe the africans;
however the english-speaking white nations adopted the spanish word but opted to pronounce it "knee-grow"...no doubt realizing that the latin word for "dead" is "necro";
so in the anglo-american mind, the african was a non-entity...literally a dead man;
he did not elect to call himself a "blanco"...he called himself "white"- consistent with his language...</div></div>
They also used Moors (latin for love is amor) and Afrikan
Yes necro means dead, yet it is worth considering that to get to heaven the place all christians want to go....you must be dead - necro. Hence the study of spirits which we all are, is called necromancy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">knowing the root & origin of these words it is a dis-honor to my ancestors to now adopt this term to identify myself...
i define myself and don't allow others, especially enemies, to define who i am...
these modern day ni66ers are doing the works of the beast, though unwittingly;
my ancestors had names before the beast came to covet his land...
"ni66er" was not one of them... </div></div>
If I adopt the term, then I have redefine the term and made it my own,to benefit me
Nigeria and Niger have been in use in Afrika before the coming of the whiteman
Lastly here is Ourstory of the word
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THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD HAD A CONNOTATION CONNECTED TO THE GODS
The word "nig..." used to be the most revered and sacred word in the universe. It was the "devine epithet," and the people who began using the mother of all words that originated from this word which was sullied by the British, were the ancient Egyptians or better, the Khemites, who called their land, "Khemet" or "The Black Land," and also used the name, "Ta-merri" or "The Beloved Land."
THE WORD "N-G-R" MEANS "GOD" IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN
The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a,e,i,o,u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.
In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature," is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr," (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer," and one sees the clear connection.
MANY AFRICAN WORDS DENOTING PEOPLE OR IMPORTANT PEOPLE STARTS WITH "N"
In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family. Words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba," in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders). Many common names also begin with "N".
WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, "N-G-R" (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)
N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)
HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED
The Romans are probably the first Europeans to misrepresent the word for God, which was "N-g-r"
About the early part of the First Century, Romans tried to invade Ethiopia. (see BLACK HISTORY CHART http://community.webtv.net/nubianem/...ldnubianempire or go to http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire for a list of Nubian Pharaohs and Queens.
The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!
The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.
In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "THE GOD."
It is very possible that when the Romans tried to invade Nubia, they asked for the name of the God and the term "N-g-r" was probably used in place of "leader" or "king". In Angola, the same also happened during the 1600's when the word "N-gola" which means "King" (notice the "N" and the "g" in this word as well), came to be "Angola,' the name of a kingdom in south western Africa.
(Read more on Nubian, Egyptian, West African and ancient American trade and commercial connections in ancient times; see the book, "Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," published by 1stBooks Library, www.1stbooks.com also see www.barnesandnoble.com
WHERE DID THE ROMANS FIRST HEAR THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD.
A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would probably have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods," to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased).
The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.
THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS
Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger."
Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black
The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
"Negro" to refer to Blacks. FROM THAT WORD CAME THE RACIAL EPITHET, "NIGG.."
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bi...rames/read/127</div></div></div>
jah_yout
Powerful arguments
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">word sound is power...
a word's root must always be examined lest we praise demons with our utterances;</div></div>
The root of the word in question could also be Niger
As in Symeon also called Niger - Acts 13:1
What we do know is that it is coming from spanish in which it means black.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the portugese and spanish who started the african trans-atlantic slave trade used their word for black= "negro" (black) to describe the africans;
however the english-speaking white nations adopted the spanish word but opted to pronounce it "knee-grow"...no doubt realizing that the latin word for "dead" is "necro";
so in the anglo-american mind, the african was a non-entity...literally a dead man;
he did not elect to call himself a "blanco"...he called himself "white"- consistent with his language...</div></div>
They also used Moors (latin for love is amor) and Afrikan
Yes necro means dead, yet it is worth considering that to get to heaven the place all christians want to go....you must be dead - necro. Hence the study of spirits which we all are, is called necromancy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">knowing the root & origin of these words it is a dis-honor to my ancestors to now adopt this term to identify myself...
i define myself and don't allow others, especially enemies, to define who i am...
these modern day ni66ers are doing the works of the beast, though unwittingly;
my ancestors had names before the beast came to covet his land...
"ni66er" was not one of them... </div></div>
If I adopt the term, then I have redefine the term and made it my own,to benefit me
Nigeria and Niger have been in use in Afrika before the coming of the whiteman
Lastly here is Ourstory of the word
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">
THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD HAD A CONNOTATION CONNECTED TO THE GODS
The word "nig..." used to be the most revered and sacred word in the universe. It was the "devine epithet," and the people who began using the mother of all words that originated from this word which was sullied by the British, were the ancient Egyptians or better, the Khemites, who called their land, "Khemet" or "The Black Land," and also used the name, "Ta-merri" or "The Beloved Land."
THE WORD "N-G-R" MEANS "GOD" IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN
The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a,e,i,o,u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.
In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature," is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr," (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer," and one sees the clear connection.
MANY AFRICAN WORDS DENOTING PEOPLE OR IMPORTANT PEOPLE STARTS WITH "N"
In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family. Words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba," in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders). Many common names also begin with "N".
WORDS OF AFRICAN ORIGINS THAT CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL WORD, "N-G-R" (PROUNOUNCED EN-JER)
N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)
HOW THE N BECAME CORRUPTED
The Romans are probably the first Europeans to misrepresent the word for God, which was "N-g-r"
About the early part of the First Century, Romans tried to invade Ethiopia. (see BLACK HISTORY CHART http://community.webtv.net/nubianem/...ldnubianempire or go to http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire for a list of Nubian Pharaohs and Queens.
The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!
The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.
In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "THE GOD."
It is very possible that when the Romans tried to invade Nubia, they asked for the name of the God and the term "N-g-r" was probably used in place of "leader" or "king". In Angola, the same also happened during the 1600's when the word "N-gola" which means "King" (notice the "N" and the "g" in this word as well), came to be "Angola,' the name of a kingdom in south western Africa.
(Read more on Nubian, Egyptian, West African and ancient American trade and commercial connections in ancient times; see the book, "Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," published by 1stBooks Library, www.1stbooks.com also see www.barnesandnoble.com
WHERE DID THE ROMANS FIRST HEAR THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD.
A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would probably have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods," to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased).
The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.
THE WORD "N-G-R" (EN-JER) AFTER IT WAS CORRUPTED BY THE EUROPEANS
Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger."
Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black
The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
"Negro" to refer to Blacks. FROM THAT WORD CAME THE RACIAL EPITHET, "NIGG.."
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bi...rames/read/127</div></div></div>
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