Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

[rudemonk]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">stapp eeth

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i think your lisping is cute </div></div>

LMAO that made me spit my afternoon rum...

[rudemonk]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...

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ironically if you were born in egypt any time during ancient pharoanic times you'd be bowing to two gay gods and happily. Set and Horus. in fact if you had been born in lots of different times and places you would have completely different ideas about homos and what is 'natural' law- lmao- and what is not. you mistake culture and social conditioning for nature's laws.

sorry but maybe the fact that a major african culture produced a couple of homo deities might help you deal with your issue here and finally get over it.

[Ja. Jewel]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...

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ironically if you were born in egypt any time during ancient pharoanic times you'd be bowing to two gay gods and happily. Set and Horus. in fact if you had been born in lots of different times and places you would have completely different ideas about homos and what is 'natural' law- lmao- and what is not. you mistake culture and social conditioning for nature's laws.

sorry but maybe the fact that a major african culture produced a couple of homo deities might help you deal with your issue here and finally get over it. </div></div>

Thank you Monk! ...you said it much betta dan mi cuddah!

[johnnycakes]

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&quot;oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...'


Yes maybe but....when you were first reproached for your rabid homophobia you claimed that as a Christian you were basing your dislike for homosexuality on the Bible.
it was only after I pointed out that Leviticus also condemns people who commit other sins to death by stoning and that these &quot;sins&quot; are today not considered sins punishable by death that you jumped to African societal anti-homosexuality as an excuse for your intolerance.

May I ask specifically what other African customs and societal mores you adhere to and specifically from which tribe your societal customs are drawn? ?
My suspicion is that your adherence to African customs (aside from a web search for anti-homosexuality laws) is limited to eating ackee and jackfruit

Jambo.

efor

[johnnycakes]

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Even better.....
I just did a web search on both African anti-homosexuality and African homosexuality and guess what ?

Our resident homophobe who claims that African cultural norms are his justification for his homophobia is not only wrong but get this.......all the sources I found said that contrary to common belief it wasn't the European (mzungu /oyinbo) colonists who introduced homosexuality to Africa since there is ample evidence that it was common right across the continent, but it was the Europeans who introduced HOMOPHOBIA and passed laws against homosexuality .

SO....our friend BG who clearly expresses dislike for mzungu culture and practices has himself adapted the colonial mzungu practice of anti-homosexuality.

Were he to adhere to African cultural norms that existed in their pure form before the Europeans, the MZUNGU showed up to ruin the existing African cultures, he would have no problem with homosexuality but he prefers the white man's culture.

Ask yourselves why.

Google up African historical homosexuality and see for yourselves.

[blugiant]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...

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ironically if you were born in egypt any time during ancient pharoanic times you'd be bowing to two gay gods and happily. Set and Horus. in fact if you had been born in lots of different times and places you would have completely different ideas about homos and what is 'natural' law- lmao- and what is not. you mistake culture and social conditioning for nature's laws.

sorry but maybe the fact that a major african culture produced a couple of homo deities might help you deal with your issue here and finally get over it. </div></div>

diss mekk mii laff

monk onlee yu wood tek a storee dat sey set (satan ar de devil) iss a homosexual ann try spinn itt fe support homosexuality. yu iss sum wan wey shood knoo dat set de devil wass ann homosexual woo tried fe eemasculate horus bye gittinn horus fe bow. horus trickked set ann cah imm neva bow imm established imm victory ova da homosexual sterile devil. tink pon de storee aff jesus wey satan tried fe gitt jesus fe bow ann jesus won cah imm neva bow. still mii surprise yu wood cum widd dat homo spin ann gawn like yu seyinn sintinn enliten

monk homosexuals a try fe rewrite afrikkan histaree fe tri fe push homosexualitee just like dem homosexuals a try rewrite de bible fe push homosexualitee. blakk peeps responsible fe tekkinn ownership aff owa storees so dat wii define owaselves.

yu see monk yu actuallee prove mii pint instead aff disprovinn wat mii sed bout afrikkan bunninn fiyah pon homosexualitee fore de bible cah weddar yu like itt ar natt de storee aff horus ann set iss oww hetrosexual horus ovacame de homosexual set. set iss satan de devil inn da bible dat wass borrowed fram de afrikkan storee. soo deal widd da fact de afrikkan storee iss seyinn dat de devil is a homosexual

[johnnycakes]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

&quot;just like dem homosexuals a try rewrite de bible fe push homosexualitee. &quot;


Okay then, where can I find a copy of the original Bible before the homosexuals rewrote so I can see for myself what you claim is true. Is there a side by side comparison of the original text and the homosexual's revisionist text anywhere except in your mind ?
Can you provide links or sources to back up your claim?

Leviticus is still as written with all its nonsensical prohibitions and ways of performing animal sacrifices.
Where is your evidence that homosexuals are rewriting the bIble?

Where is your proof that African cultures were against homosexuality BEFORE the white colonialists inflicted their intolerance on the African continent ? Links?

[blugiant]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...'


Yes maybe but....when you were first reproached for your rabid homophobia you claimed that as a Christian you were basing your dislike for homosexuality on the Bible.
it was only after I pointed out that Leviticus also condemns people who commit other sins to death by stoning and that these &quot;sins&quot; are today not considered sins punishable by death that you jumped to African societal anti-homosexuality as an excuse for your intolerance.

May I ask specifically what other African customs and societal mores you adhere to and specifically from which tribe your societal customs are drawn? ?
My suspicion is that your adherence to African customs (aside from a web search for anti-homosexuality laws) is limited to eating ackee and jackfruit

Jambo.

efor
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again yu arguinn wat yu tink mii sed. suesumba sed itt bess mi iss ann enigma wrapped inn a puzzle. christ iss a greek word meaninn annoited wan wat dem use fe slur jesus ann imm fallawers soo wen mii use certain wurds addar meaninn attached dat mii neva xxplain lest jamaicans.com site management tri fe censar mii fe usinn nan-affensive wurds ann phrases cah dem targittinn mii cah dem doan like wen mii bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee.

leviticuss wass written bye peeps widd agenda dat y dem slur de afrikkans woo storees dem teef ann gawn like itt wass bout dem. de bible iss an african ting dat oyinbo mekk itt more oyinbo fe appeal to oyinbo ideas aff oyinbo supremacee. juss like de images aff oyinbo jesus. wan reason y dem enslaved afrikkans were drawn to christianity iss dat dem knew de real origin aff christianity. da better qwestian fe yu jonnycakes iss oww manee afrikkan mores ann custom yu fallawinn dat yu fail ovatand cah yu tink itt oyinbo sintinn

deal widd da fact afrikkan kulchas bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee

[jah_yout]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
oww manee thyme mii tell yu dat afrikkans bunn fiyah pon homosexualitee beefore de bible...

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ironically if you were born in egypt any time during ancient pharoanic times <span style="font-weight: bold">you'd be bowing to two gay gods and happily. Set and Horus. </span>in fact if you had been born in lots of different times and places you would have completely different ideas about homos and what is 'natural' law- lmao- and what is not. you mistake culture and social conditioning for nature's laws.

sorry but maybe the fact that a major african culture produced a couple of homo deities might help you deal with your issue here and finally get over it. </div></div>

you need to educate me on this one...

how are horus AND set gay?

some guys that rape guys in prison are not gay either

[jah_yout]

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as far as i know set represented the hated enemy...the one who would kill god if he could...where as horus represented the son of god &amp; egypt's rightful ruler;
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Conquerer of Set</span>
During the overthrow of the hated Hyksos, foreign rulers over Egypt, <span style="font-weight: bold">Set became demonised by the nationalistic fervour, as he had been chosen by the Hyksos as their favourite god.</span> The previous brief enmity between Set and Horus, in which Horus had ripped off one of Set's testicles, was revitalised as a tale representing the conquest over the Hyksos. <span style="font-weight: bold">Since by this time, Set was considered to have been gay</span>, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance, by seducing Horus (with the line how lovely your backside is) and then having Intercrural intercourse with him, in which Set takes the top role. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently cut the hand off, throwing it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set.</div></div>


seems to me that story could be interpreted as anti-gay as well

[jah_yout]

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as far as the topic of the thread

i can't agree with anyone taping anyone in secret &amp; broadcasting them over the internet...this is just malicious

[johnnycakes]

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&quot;leviticuss wass written bye peeps widd agenda dat y dem slur de afrikkans woo storees dem teef ann gawn like itt wass bout dem.

Leviticus was written by people from around the Mediterranean Sea which makes them semites sort of white sort of brown like Yassir Arafat for example.
If you want to call that African, fine. It's just not correct.



&quot;de bible iss an african ting dat oyinbo mekk itt more oyinbo fe appeal to oyinbo ideas aff oyinbo supremacee. juss like de images aff oyinbo jesus.&quot;

The Bible was written by sort of white people; Semites and Mediterranean types. It was their religion and not black Africa's. So, of course they would portray Jesus as one of them. A black Jesus is only slightly more likely than a Chinese Jesus to be pictured by white people. Why in the world would 2nd 3rd or 4th century Christians picture Christ as anything other than one of them? I can't believe you believe what you're saying.



&quot;wan reason y dem enslaved afrikkans were drawn to christianity iss dat dem knew de real origin aff christianity. &quot;


Right. Nothing at all to do with the fact that, as slaves, in Christian America, they weren't allowed to practice their &quot;heathen&quot; religions and were given Christianity as the p[roper substitute.




&quot;da better qwestian fe yu jonnycakes iss oww manee afrikkan mores ann custom yu fallawinn dat yu fail ovatand cah yu tink itt oyinbo sintinn&quot;


I'll tell you a really good African custom I follow and that is tolerance of homosexuality. Try acting like a real African sometime and not one who has chosen to pick up the intolerance and homophobia of your once colonial OYINBO masters who brought that homophobia to Africa.

You profess to be against a white culture yet you chose to be just like the people who 1) wrote the Bible that condemns homosexuals and
2) brought homophobia to colonial black Africa which previously tolerated and practice homosexuality


You're really something. An enigma wrapped in a puzzle? More like a sheet of glass as far as seeing though your homophobia which I think is from having those aliens &quot;probe&quot; you when that UFO scooped you up.


You spend too much time chatting about things titillating and/or sexual and I suspect this is how you get your jollies. I'm just amazed at how much typing you can do with one hand.

[rudemonk]

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you're off your rocker.

what a way the one god overcome his opponent lmao.

besides...

Khnumhotep and Niankhkhnum

[rudemonk]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">as far as i know set represented the hated enemy...the one who would kill god if he could...where as horus represented the son of god &amp; egypt's rightful ruler;
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Conquerer of Set</span>
During the overthrow of the hated Hyksos, foreign rulers over Egypt, <span style="font-weight: bold">Set became demonised by the nationalistic fervour, as he had been chosen by the Hyksos as their favourite god.</span> The previous brief enmity between Set and Horus, in which Horus had ripped off one of Set's testicles, was revitalised as a tale representing the conquest over the Hyksos. <span style="font-weight: bold">Since by this time, Set was considered to have been gay</span>, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance, by seducing Horus (with the line how lovely your backside is) and then having Intercrural intercourse with him, in which Set takes the top role. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently cut the hand off, throwing it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set.</div></div>


seems to me that story could be interpreted as anti-gay as well </div></div>

listen this is not really my subject- interpreting gay motivations etc. but i think if i was an anti gay god or wanted to use myth to establish an anti gay cultural point, i would write the myth and as a character in it, i wouldn't be ambiguous. i wouldn't be using semen. can't you think of like, 10 gazillion other ways to make an anti-gay statement.

keep reading the myth because the story goes on.

the simple fact is that these gods were worshipped, were generated by a major african culture, and they are far from the only bit of evidence to suggest that homosexuality, however we may feel about it personally or today, was obviously thought of differently back then. and the other point is that if BG or any of us were born to a different set of circumstances, he'd be fine with gays, and in fact might have worshipped a gay god.

the point is how people feel about it has nothing to do with 'natural' law, but is a perception, like so many others, developed by culture and socialization.

if blak giant, you, or me were raised by a same sex couple we would all be socially conditioned to not have any problem with gays. and we'd all be- barring any other influences and so forth- normalized contributing adults to our respective societies.

this guy is going on like if you are gay you are automatically a buggerer, no gays on a whole continent of different peoples, and all kinds of other heaps of nonsense and justifications for something he finds personally distasteful and I don't blame him there I'm not gay myself but if I were I wouldn't give a rat's [censored] what anyone thought about it and as I've said repeatedly the only time i ever have to think about it is when I dip into some thread like this one. Which is something I don't really understand because as soon as you say or read the word 'homo' you automatically bring to mind something you don't like to think about? That is warped. I don't like the sound of nails on a blackboard I don't have a 30 second loop of nails dragging on a blackboard that I listen to over and over... I don't go around telling people how much I hate that and then seek out all kind of nails being dragged on blackboards...

Further more he's a blind hypocrite about it because if he needed a kidney and could only find a gay person to donate him one he would take it to save his life and would never know about it, he might have 'gay' blood in him right now if he ever had a blood transfusion and if he were in a big car accident and needed some blood gay blood would work just as well as anyones, a gay surgeon could save his life, a gay cop could help fix his wife's flat on the side of the road to see her home safely, his country and home could be and ironically is protected by gay soldiers and on and on and on and on because gay people are just as capable of doing the same 'normal' stuff as straight people and sometimes better probably. this kind of anti gay nonsense shed us of much needed military assets and put us all at risk and for that simple fact alone I think his view should be excoriated and dismissed vehemently.

On the rare occasions I watch TV if will and grace are on I just change the channel so what they have their own show with gay people all over it. I DON'T CARE. If somebody else wants to watch that stuff, <span style="font-style: italic">I don't care.</span> If I walk through Chelsea in Manhattan I don't have to stare at people holding hands who are both men because I don't care. I certainly wouldn't waste a lot of time watching it then complaining about something I don't like and if I REALLY FELT A WAY ABOUT IT the last set of people I would be mouthing off to are other straight people who more than likely DO NOT CARE.

If it really is so dutty and reprehensible why is he preaching so much to the choir. Shouldn't this energy be spent on gay forums. I'm making the assumption here JY that you are like me and not gay. Do you need to be told repeatedly by someone else that you are not gay? What about do you need to be repeatedly told about gay people by someone who is not gay.

Do you repeatedly tell others that you are not gay?

No? Me either. That's because we're not gay.

I'm sure there must be some who would love to hear about how abnormal and dutty they are from such an astute sociologist as BG.

[Wahalla]

Re: Homophobic voyeuristic perverts at Rutger's Univ

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">as far as i know set represented the hated enemy...the one who would kill god if he could...where as horus represented the son of god &amp; egypt's rightful ruler;
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Conquerer of Set</span>
During the overthrow of the hated Hyksos, foreign rulers over Egypt, <span style="font-weight: bold">Set became demonised by the nationalistic fervour, as he had been chosen by the Hyksos as their favourite god.</span> The previous brief enmity between Set and Horus, in which Horus had ripped off one of Set's testicles, was revitalised as a tale representing the conquest over the Hyksos. <span style="font-weight: bold">Since by this time, Set was considered to have been gay</span>, Set is depicted as trying to prove his dominance, by seducing Horus (with the line how lovely your backside is) and then having Intercrural intercourse with him, in which Set takes the top role. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently cut the hand off, throwing it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set.</div></div>


seems to me that story could be interpreted as anti-gay as well </div></div>


Damn!!!!

My 7 year old son did a project last year on Egypt... And he did a presentation on Egytian gods..So he and I worked on a presentation together.. We spent time looking up stuff on the internet..(Incidentally we were taught about the Egytian gods as part of anceint history forty years ago in Jamaica!)

I found out that Osiris was the father of Horus... And Set was his (Horus) uncle... and set wanted to sleep with Isis who was the wife of Osiris and his brother. Isis was Set Sister. and seth was married to Isis and Osiris sister Nepthis...(Basically Set, Osiris, Nephsis Isis were the children of Nut and Jut). Set was thus into Isis so was not simply gay...(or did he want to sleep with Osiris).. Set Killed Osiris and chopped him into 14 peices.. Isis found the 13 peices and rebuilt Osiris.. Yep the 14th peice the one that was miss was his peng-peng... Horus fought set for killing his father.. But I never knew he got jiggy with him!.. Had I know that I would have used it as a teaching lesson to my son as part of the project!

(well how do you tell your six year old that the peng peng was lost ?)

But all I am saying that is one disfunctional family!

Incidentally there is evidence that the ancient Egytpians had a daily ceromony where by the cheif priest was manipulated by an acyolite to ejucate at the first ray of sun at Karnak.. did that make all the high priests chi-chi men ?