Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

[johnnycakes]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's one thing to abuse your own body, that's your decision to make. i find it inexcusable to abuse an animal. </div></div>



I thoroughly agree SueSumba but also realize that people in the United States have a far different way of thinking about animals than do most Jamaicans.
Jamaicans do not kiss their dogs or cats.
So when a dog dies or is poisoned or otherwise killed in Jamaica the thought is that it is an inconvenience to have to go out and get another to guard the yard rather than the killing of a companion.

Vick took part in the willful killing of what is considered &quot;man's best friend&quot; to most Americans and that is what most Americans will always think of Vick as long as he is in the public eye.

No living thing deserves what Vick is responsible for doing to those dogs
and he did it for SPORT. He did not care if they suffered. He was having FUN.

So... what kind of person is he ? He's a sick, inhumane person I would not care to have around me.

I'd give him the same second chance he gave the losers in his dogfights.

[Emperah]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

many ppl have done much worse, such as rape, murder, maim the week and this is ppl and still Vick gets treated worse than those who have done these things to human beings.

[jamaica_dreamin]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

I have zero sympathy for animal abusers.

[Cultcha]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

However you feel about him, he has paid his penalty. Let him be!

As far as Mr. Radio Man goes... Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

[Emperah]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have zero sympathy for animal abusers. </div></div>

How is it these pastors who abuse little boys and girls get off more than vick.
Most of them don't even get jail time, how is that?

[jah_yout]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xavier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know it is all about ratings but a radio personally who constantly talks about his past addiction to coke mentioned on his show how Vick is a &quot;turd&quot; and low life. He gets a second chance but Vick should not. I just don't understand why people will not move on. He paid his debt to society and has moved on...why can't other people do the same?

PS: His teammate, DeSean Jackson's, comment about them jumping on the Redskins &quot;like pit bulls getting out of a cage&quot; does not help... </div></div>

plain jealousy &amp; hatred...
i guess they don't believe in redemption

[jah_yout]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have zero sympathy for animal abusers. </div></div>

does that also include those who eat the flesh , wear the fur or skins of......
or use products that were tested on certain animals (most) that were tortured &amp; killed?

[remo]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vic

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have zero sympathy for animal abusers. </div></div>

How is it these pastors who abuse little boys and girls get off more than vick.
Most of them don't even get jail time, how is that? </div></div>

To some people what Vick did was worse

[Yvonne N.]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's one thing to abuse your own body, that's your decision to make. i find it inexcusable to abuse an animal. </div></div>

I still dont believe he should have gone to jail and have his career almost ruined over <span style="font-weight: bold">some stupid dogs..</span>People have committed murders and done less time.......... </div></div>

...maybe someone could just categorize you as...'whatever'... and treat you similarly...and ...then...YOUR rights would be violated eh? Oh dear...

[remo]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs_Ahmidis</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's one thing to abuse your own body, that's your decision to make. i find it inexcusable to abuse an animal. </div></div>

I still dont believe he should have gone to jail and have his career almost ruined over <span style="font-weight: bold">some stupid dogs..</span>People have committed murders and done less time.......... </div></div>

...maybe someone could just categorize you as...'whatever'... and treat you similarly...and ...then...YOUR rights would be violated eh? Oh dear... </div></div>

See what I talking about?....You think a dog is just as useful as I me a human being
I'm sorry I cant look at it that way

[LusciousJohnson]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

See what I talking about?....You think a dog is just as useful as I me a human being
I'm sorry I cant look at it that way
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me either remo

[Emperah]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs_Ahmidis</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's one thing to abuse your own body, that's your decision to make. i find it inexcusable to abuse an animal. </div></div>

I still dont believe he should have gone to jail and have his career almost ruined over <span style="font-weight: bold">some stupid dogs..</span>People have committed murders and done less time.......... </div></div>

...maybe someone could just categorize you as...'whatever'... and treat you similarly...and ...then...YOUR rights would be violated eh? Oh dear... </div></div>

Aftah yuh cyaan equate de two a dem tuhgedda, even yuh bible seh suh

[23JAM00]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

LA Times sports reporter Bill Plaschke wrote a compelling piece for yesterday’s paper on the resurgence of Michael Vick as an NFL quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. Plaschke interviewed the caregiver of Mel, a pit bull and former resident of Best Friends Animal Society—and one of Vick’s former canine victims. Powerful stuff. Plaschke’s article boils down to is this question:

“Essentially, an ex-convict is dominating America’s most popular sport while victims of his previous crime continue to live with the brutality of that crime, and has that ever happened before?

Do you cheer the player and boo the man? Can you cheer the comeback while loathing the actions that necessitated the comeback? And how can you do any of this while not knowing if Vick has truly discovered morality or simply rediscovered the pocket?”

From what we at Best Friends know of the way Michael Vick has related to the animals he abused, the answer is clearly that he has “simply rediscovered the pocket.” Best Friends took 22 of Vick’s 48 seized dogs and the only contact we’ve received from Vick or his representatives was by way of some overtures from his agent, one of his attorneys and a PR firm specializing in reputation rehabilitation. They were interested in some public glad handing that would put Vick in a favorable light with the NFL, which at the time was still considering whether or not to reinstate him. We declined.

Best Friends has never heard from Michael Vick or any of his representatives inquiring after the health or well being of any of the 22 dogs that we received from his fighting ring.

According to the law, Michael Vick has paid his debt to society. Many would argue though that being free to get on with his life is one thing. Being welcomed into the highly privileged ranks of the NFL is quite another and warrants a much higher threshold of qualification. Plaschke again:

“…a large percentage of the population will still think Michael Vick is a sociopath. Many people will never get over Vick’s own admissions of unthinkable cruelty to his pit bulls — the strangling, the drowning, the electrocutions, the removal of all the teeth of female dogs who would fight back during mating.”

Obviously not a sufficiently large enough percentage of the population feels that way to deter the NFL from allowing someone on the field who many do believe is a sociopath ex-convict as long as he can fill the seats. They wouldn’t do it if they didn’t know they could get away with it.

Despite the fact that America is routinely described as a nation of animal lovers, concern for the lives and well being of those animals doesn’t yet compete with the desire to be entertained. That’s a problem.

It’s a problem because the same imbalance of public opinion that tolerates Michael Vick as a celebrated athlete also tolerates puppy mills, pet stores and shelter killings…each a cause of suffering many magnitudes the scale of Michael Vicks crimes and in some cases the same order of depravity.

Ending the societal abuse of homeless pets that results in the death of 4 – 5 million animals annually in our shelter system will require more than the heroic efforts of rescuers, it will require recruiting a larger percentage of this nation of animal lovers to a value proposition that places the lives and well being of our animal companions above personal entertainment, the allure of designer breeds and pets as fashion statements. The Michael Vick story is, for me at least, a marker along the way pointing us to the tasks ahead on the road to No More Homeless Pets.

Francis Battista

Co-Founder, Best Friends Animal Society

[Yvonne N.]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

I am not trying to convince you to be compassionate towards animals that can't help themselves...I am only saying that you would not like someone to do this to you or your family members... <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the strangling, the drowning, the electrocutions, the removal of all the teeth of female dogs who would fight back during mating.”

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My Hindu friend does not even kill roaches...it's about respecting living things as far as is possible...

[evanovitch]

Re: Everyone gets 2nd chances...except Michael Vick

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My Hindu friend does not even kill roaches...it's about respecting living things as far as is possible...
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but has no qualms in continuing an age old lock out of the Untouchables in dem society ....wat a ting...gi more respect to a cockroach dan a fellow Indian