? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

[RichD]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

but yuh a get the explanation for what happen and yuh nuh content.

computers don't make errors..is user input them react to

[evanovitch]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but yuh a get the explanation for what happen and yuh nuh content.

computers don't make errors..is user input them react to </div></div>

wen wat happen is down to me having clicked to mek it appear ovah dere and u an I know dat i am careful about my real identity y di heck i am to accept responsibility...is not the first time i have questioned something knowing i did not do it...the last time Kia asked if she could access my info n sure enuff something had been changed

something i would not have ,given my continued and vigilant protection of my identity on this site...


wat u r not willing to see is dat dere mite be a fluke in the privacy issue oveer here...again not because it happen to me n not smaddy else no mean it is not credible n need to be looked at....

the explanation has no credence given my stated position...IF i want to raise an issue on FB that i may have raised over here i post it anew over there...i dont click over here for it to appear over there

[Bandana]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

I am sure you did not &quot;like&quot; your own post on purpose! Somehow it happened tho... I have clicked on things by accident before, and the ads on the bottom of the page sometimes move the view... which makes it easier to click accidentally... You can fix it by going back to the post and clicking &quot;unlike&quot; on the bottom left...

The joys of the internet!!

[RichD]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

did it translate your moniker here to your real name?

[evanovitch]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

yes it did...dat is y mi use di stars...it said the shortened form of my first name

[RichD]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes it did...dat is y mi use di stars...it said the shortened form of my first name </div></div>

your name was generated by your FB ..that did not come from here

[evanovitch]

where on this copy of the post does it show

<span style="font-weight: bold"> where u can click to have it posted on FB...m i missing wat oonoo saying...mi no seet so how mi was to click it, cause dat is wat mi being told mi did</span>




Mired in controversy ... but Universal Church of t
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Loc: Jah bless mi dere n here Mired in controversy ... but Universal Church of the Kingdom of God growing rapidly
Published: Sunday | January 9, 2011 2


The Brazil-based, fast-growing Universal Church of the Kingdom of God (UCKG), while mired in controversy, including charges of fraud, money laundering and racketeering, continues to expand at a rapid rate across the globe, including Jamaica.

The church's global membership is reported to be as many as 12 million, with over 12,000 pastors and some 7,000 temples in 176 different countries. In Brazil alone, the UCKG is said to have an estimated 5,000 congregations in which eight million people follow thousands of pastors. Its headquarters in Rio de Janeiro can accommodate 12,000 people; and there are plans to construct a US$200 million megachurch 10,000-seat replica of the great Solomon's Temple in the city of Sao Paulo, Brazil, within the next four years.

In Jamaica, the UCKG has fast taken deep root with a reported membership of 20,000 in 24 branches across the island. Headed by Bishop Claudio Botelho, they have announced plans to construct a grand three-storey cathedral in Half-Way-Tree, St Andrew, this year.
The UCKG website says it was formed in 1977 in Brazil, and owes its origins to a successful evangelistic programme conducted by Bishop Robert McAlister, a Canadian missionary in the Pentecostal tradition.

&quot;Following an exploratory visit to the USA, the UCKG was established in New York in 1986. Today, there are churches in many other US cities. UCKG then developed its presence in Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Paraguay, Venezuela, Colombia, Bolivia, Chile, Guatemala and Ecuador. There are also churches in Jamaica, Trinidad and Guyana.

&quot;In Europe, it is established in England, Portugal, Spain, France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, Switzerland and Poland. After the collapse of the Berlin Wall, the UCKG opened its doors in Germany and the end of communism enabled the church to provide churches for Russian and Romanian people.

&quot;The first UCKG church in Africa opened in Angola in 1992. It is now active in South Africa, Mozambique, Cape Verde, Kenya, Lesotho, Ivory Coast, Malawi, Uganda and many other countries on the continent. In Asia, the UCKG is established in India, the Philippines and Japan, where the first 24-hour church is based.&quot;

Brazilian authorities have reported that Igreja Universal do Reino de Deus, as it is known in their country, raises approximately US$1.4 billion per year in donations and it is this capacity to raise funds that has drawn much attention.

Corruption charges

Throughout its 33-year history, members of the church's hierarchy have been charged with immoral and illegal deeds, including fraud, money laundering, quackery, tax evasion, bribery, witchcraft, and extracting money from supporters, often poor. It has also been riven by lawsuits, countersuits, and accusations of supernatural practices.
An Internet research has revealed several stories from the United States of America, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Belgium, Uganda, Mozambique, France and Brazil that have had public controversies surrounding the UCKG.

The Rick A. Ross Institute of New Jersey - a non-profit public resource Internet archive of information about cults, controversial groups and movements at rickross.com - has documented some 65 reports and articles collected from across the world on the practices and activities of the UCKG and Macedo.

In 1992, founder and leader Bishop Macedo spent 11 days in a Brazilian jail on charges of tax evasion, fraud and illicit enrichment. Those charges were later dropped, but in 2009, the Brazilian prosecutors once again brought charges against him for fraud and money laundering, accusing him of siphoning off billions of dollars in donations.

The charges of fraud and money laundering are contained in a report by a Sao Paulo public prosecutor that was formally submitted to a Brazilian judge on Monday, August 10, 2009. The report claims 10 leading members of the church - including Macedo - used donations from followers to buy jewellery, property and cars.

The complaint is the result of a two-year investigation by Brazil's Special Operation Group to Combat Organised Crime (Gaeco). Prosecutors charged that money collected from their largely impoverished flock for charitable work, evangelism and building funds was instead used to purchase companies. Those companies, in turn, were allegedly used to launder money, which was then loaned to Macedo and other church leaders, and used to purchase additional businesses, as well as real estate, aircraft and a TV station.

Two of the companies involved are said to have been responsible for moving and concealing more than US$71 million.

The UCKG has said that no charges against their founder and leader was ever proven and that it was felt within the church that this action was politically motivated.

Over the years, other UCKG leaders around the world have been arrested or charged with various fraud-related charges.

However, the church has managed to survive most of the probes and charges unscathed, with many prosecutors concluding that although their means were questionable, church members gave their donations voluntarily.

To those who are faithful believers in the doctrines of the church, they believe these stories and probes are merely attempts to persecute them. They are convinced that all problems can be solved with sacrifice and faith and it doesn't appear that these followers, who are mainly people of a lower-middle class background, will forfeit their beliefs any time soon.

However, eventually some of the members do become disillusioned and walk away from the faith when promise of prosperity is not forthcoming from their substantial offerings.

Pastor attacked

In October 2008, a Jamaican man was shot and killed by the police after he attacked and chopped a UCKG pastor at a local church in New Kingston. The pastor ran from the church to a nearby police post, where it was reported that the man pulled a knife and attacked a policeman who shot him. Friends and family of the man said he was told by the church that if he gave a substantial amount of money, his girlfriend, who had left him, would return. When this promise was not fulfilled he became enraged.

Ex-members have reported how they participated in scams to elicit money from members, whether by giving false testimonies of blessings or healing, purchasing olive oil from local supermarkets which is passed off as being blessed oil from Israel, or purchasing other token items from local stores, which are 'sold' to members as holy items from Israel.

Former pastors who have left the church have even written books, making accusations of vice, corruption, and greed among the church leadership.

Interestingly, the UCKG presents itself differently in each nation, at times even changing its doctrinal statement.

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[RichD]

Re: where on this copy of the post does it show

down below there is a FB link

[evanovitch]

Re: ? re Facebook...smaddy please answer

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes it did...dat is y mi use di stars...it said the shortened form of my first name </div></div>



your name was generated by your FB ..that did not come from here </div></div>

so how facebook in this once instance long after i am posting over there, could just pick my name an associate it wid my moniker over here...an i did not discuss the issue of the post over in FB...naw man...mi not buying dat an since the site protected someone's identity wen i asked for it saying i had to get lawyers involved mi wondering wat dem going to say now...

AGAIN i did not discuss this matter on FB an seeing that i post on FB using my real name how , except through an email identification could the swapping happen...n y wid just one post given i have been on FB for a while

naw...my privacy issue needs to be explained an so far mi no convinced...

[evanovitch]

Re: where on this copy of the post does it show

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">down below there is a FB link </div></div>

so u sticking wid me consciously clicking to post it on FB...so u cawlling mi a flipping liar r eediat

[Gen]

Re: where on this copy of the post does it show

Evan dung di bottom dere is a &quot;thumbs up&quot; -yuh might have accidentally hit it or yuh mouse scroll over it

Sometime mi end up ovah fb from here but a just mistake

[evanovitch]

Re: where on this copy of the post does it show

sooo looking below the last poster on the entire page i see ur FB thingee....first time i am even looking for it much less to notice it...so thinking i could unlike i did ongle to now have on ,my profile that i live Jams.com...so i clicked unlike n now i have two liking the post n one liking Jams.com

n neither can be deleted from my FB profile r else i am not seeing how to an asking the ? how to delete on the HELP on FB is not helpful since the ? doesnt match wat they have answers for

[evanovitch]

Re: where on this copy of the post does it show

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Evan dung di bottom dere is a &quot;thumbs up&quot; -yuh might have accidentally hit it or yuh mouse scroll over it

Sometime mi end up ovah fb from here but a just mistake </div></div>

i dont use a mouse...i type...accidents may happen yes but i am having a hard time swallowing this one but i guess i must...i will say that if my pictures etc get out i will sue from the top to the bottom...n the good ting bout this site dat if two know bout dat is always one too many so it always come out in di washing